Manure H Sun 12th Jan KO 3pm FA cup 3rd Round

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Re: Manure H Sun 12th Jan KO 3pm FA cup 3rd Round

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augie wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:22 pm
rodders999 wrote:
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Last summer we went in early for Sesko (the Euros hadn’t even started it was that early in the window) so the need for a striker was obviously deemed top priority by the club, we failed to get him and don’t appear to have had a plan B,C or D option as we exited the window with only the Italian Kieren Tierney and Mong Merino.

A truly catastrophic cluster fuck of a window, up there with the time we only bought helmet head and pissed away the league to Leicester.

A proper number 9 and we’re right in contention in the legaue, in the driving seat of a league cup semi and through to the 4th round of the cup.

Gross fucking negligence :suicide:



Did you hear the great reception the scottish Kieran Tierney got from the fans when he was brought on today ? #justsaying :wink: :lol: :lol:
You and your moist undies were the first thing I thought of when he came on :wink:

He put in one beautiful in swinging cross but all the limp dick wonders were standing at the edge of the box admiring it rather than getting into the mixer :banghead:

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Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:31 pm
A lot of blame is being aimed at individuals and arguably rightly so BUT.....
Arteta has completely changed the way we play, totally. We were superb in the second half of last season, another winger so we can give Saka a rest and a good striker and we were set. But no, Arteta changes the WHOLE system, we now play a possession/control game, it makes us slow, predictable and boring, He's lost the crowd at the Emirates, the last 2 home games have been like a morgue apart from the away fans, because everyone sees what is going to happen, a whole lot of boring nothing!
When Arsenal attack we often have just 3 players in forward positions, watch Liverpool, they usually have 6 minimum in open play. It's no wonder Ode is struggling, there's no movement, no runs, no attacker, no Saka!! We're now a static team who allows the opposition to sit back and block us out, game after game. Fans see it, that's why there's no atmosphere. This system will fall, badly because there is no way on earth it can work.

Sign a new CDM? Why? We have the second best no.6 in the world, only he's being asked to play as an 8. :banghead:
Buy Mogodon Merino for what? He wins duels....oh, you mean like Declan Rice, who we paid 105m for does? We play a midfielder as a striker and a misfiring striker as a winger, we often play three defensive midfielders...... This is a mix of Wenger and Graham ..... The bad bits!
It's so clear to see, I seriously wonder if senior management at Arsenal have decided not to risk giving him more money to waste!? Last summer was a fucking disaster. We will not win either of our next 2 games, I think we'll lose one draw one.


TeeCee buddy I have to take issue with two of your points there -

1. You say that we were superb in the second half of last season but I dont remember it that way a all - I remember Steve O on multiple match threads slating how boring our style of play was with all the sidewards passing, so this isnt a new occurance this season.

2. You suggest odeargod is struggling cos of a lack of movement ahead of him, but the reality is that he slows our game down more than anyone, and that by the time he decides to pass it forward the opposition team are all back in position and crowding our attackers out. I know I go on about smith-rowe a (tiny :wink: ) bit, but watch him play and when he receives the ball on the half turn he usually takes a touch and passes it wide on the second touch - imagine the damage that saka could do if he was getting the ball early before the opposition had time to double up on him. Again if I am a forward, I wont be making runs if the ball is not going to be released forward - firstly I would probably be running into an offside position, but secondly I am going to preserve my energy for when it is needed and when the ball is coming my way

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Re: Manure H Sun 12th Jan KO 3pm FA cup 3rd Round

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United are shit. That was the equivalent of a boxing match where they were battered for 12 rounds without being knocked out despite several clear opportunities and then won a game of rock, paper, scissors. Criminal that we let it get to extra time, let alone pens.

There is clearly something amiss in the squad. Pressure is my bet. They know we need to win something and that is precisely why we won’t.

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:48 pm
United are shit. That was the equivalent of a boxing match where they were battered for 12 rounds without being knocked out despite several clear opportunities and then won a game of rock, paper, scissors. Criminal that we let it get to extra time, let alone pens.

There is clearly something amiss in the squad. Pressure is my bet. They know we need to win something and that is precisely why we won’t.
Makes me wonder whether players are starting to privately question the tactics and style of play. They've seen the dippers have a huge resurgence this season, Chavs doing better and ourselves going backwards. Our the players on board with the fucking boring tactics, the shit signings and the lack of end product? I agree that the best way to get players on board is by winning things and I wonder whether the players have started to lose faith in the manager and his decisions as they've won nothing? It might explain a few things.

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BBC Post Match 2 minute Interview with Arteta:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cn853d978n0t


At 42 seconds in the female interviewer asks him something along the lines of:

"Why do you think the chances aren't being taken?" (Now WE ALL Know Why!) and yet he answers... "I don't know" Then goes off on some barely audible verbal wankoff about should have this or that or whatever ... and how he loves the players.... He Loves what they do... :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :roll:


For Fucks Sake...We and Every Other Fucker Knows why! We DON'T Have a STRIKER! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:03 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:48 pm
United are shit. That was the equivalent of a boxing match where they were battered for 12 rounds without being knocked out despite several clear opportunities and then won a game of rock, paper, scissors. Criminal that we let it get to extra time, let alone pens.

There is clearly something amiss in the squad. Pressure is my bet. They know we need to win something and that is precisely why we won’t.
Makes me wonder whether players are starting to privately question the tactics and style of play. They've seen the dippers have a huge resurgence this season, Chavs doing better and ourselves going backwards. Our the players on board with the fucking boring tactics, the shit signings and the lack of end product? I agree that the best way to get players on board is by winning things and I wonder whether the players have started to lose faith in the manager and his decisions as they've won nothing? It might explain a few things.
By and large the same players do their jobs well. Raya (in the main), Saliba, Gabriel, Saka, Odegaard (despite the tears on here), Rice, Timber. The same players let us down. Martinelli. Trossard. Havertz. Jesus. It’s like being at work. You work your arse off but some prat costs the team as they are crap. I think a few players are getting fed up of it. Without Saka we are toothless. People can have a go at Odegaard but I agree with Tee Cee. He can only play someone in if they have made space or made a run. Some of these players are reverting to type. Havertz was shipped out by Chelsea. Trossard was at Brighton. Martinelli was in the Brazilian 4th division. Jesus never scored more than 15 in a side that was dominant. It’s all in the recruitment. Poor.

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You can add Partey and Zinchenko to the liabilities above.

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Also thought that Tierney's cross into the centre from the left flank was the best cross all game... Put it Right IN The Danger Zone... But the three players forward stood off...For Me a Any Striker worth his Salt would have Buried it Easily... Aaaah! Yes... Ooops! Of Course we don't have one of them :? :roll: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:22 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:03 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:48 pm
United are shit. That was the equivalent of a boxing match where they were battered for 12 rounds without being knocked out despite several clear opportunities and then won a game of rock, paper, scissors. Criminal that we let it get to extra time, let alone pens.

There is clearly something amiss in the squad. Pressure is my bet. They know we need to win something and that is precisely why we won’t.
Makes me wonder whether players are starting to privately question the tactics and style of play. They've seen the dippers have a huge resurgence this season, Chavs doing better and ourselves going backwards. Our the players on board with the fucking boring tactics, the shit signings and the lack of end product? I agree that the best way to get players on board is by winning things and I wonder whether the players have started to lose faith in the manager and his decisions as they've won nothing? It might explain a few things.
By and large the same players do their jobs well. Raya (in the main), Saliba, Gabriel, Saka, Odegaard (despite the tears on here), Rice, Timber. The same players let us down. Martinelli. Trossard. Havertz. Jesus. It’s like being at work. You work your arse off but some prat costs the team as they are crap. I think a few players are getting fed up of it. Without Saka we are toothless. People can have a go at Odegaard but I agree with Tee Cee. He can only play someone in if they have made space or made a run. Some of these players are reverting to type. Havertz was shipped out by Chelsea. Trossard was at Brighton. Martinelli was in the Brazilian 4th division. Jesus never scored more than 15 in a side that was dominant. It’s all in the recruitment. Poor.
Yeah. Good points and to be honest, it's the ones not improving that start to cost a team when it matters because they can't step in or step it up when the situation demands it. Rice and Odergaard are perhaps the only players that have come in and brought the team up to a better level in a position. Saliba was an Emery signing and loaned out so I suppose he might count at a push but Havertz, Trossard, Partey, Jesus, Tomiasu, Sterling, Calafiori, Merino, Vieira, Zinchenko, Kiwior and a few others have been average at best. That's not good enough when it matters and not a single one of those has been in a position that was needed at the time. The Merino one in particular stands out as fucking ridiculous when you consider that for 18 months beforehand the team was desperate for a goal scorer and not only that but it now means we haven't got the financial resources to get one to solve the same fucking problem this window. Fucking madness. 800m quid for a bunch of bang average players and Cheaty and Chavs rejects. People have every reason to start getting critical and demand accountability.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:41 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:22 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:03 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:48 pm
United are shit. That was the equivalent of a boxing match where they were battered for 12 rounds without being knocked out despite several clear opportunities and then won a game of rock, paper, scissors. Criminal that we let it get to extra time, let alone pens.

There is clearly something amiss in the squad. Pressure is my bet. They know we need to win something and that is precisely why we won’t.
Makes me wonder whether players are starting to privately question the tactics and style of play. They've seen the dippers have a huge resurgence this season, Chavs doing better and ourselves going backwards. Our the players on board with the fucking boring tactics, the shit signings and the lack of end product? I agree that the best way to get players on board is by winning things and I wonder whether the players have started to lose faith in the manager and his decisions as they've won nothing? It might explain a few things.
By and large the same players do their jobs well. Raya (in the main), Saliba, Gabriel, Saka, Odegaard (despite the tears on here), Rice, Timber. The same players let us down. Martinelli. Trossard. Havertz. Jesus. It’s like being at work. You work your arse off but some prat costs the team as they are crap. I think a few players are getting fed up of it. Without Saka we are toothless. People can have a go at Odegaard but I agree with Tee Cee. He can only play someone in if they have made space or made a run. Some of these players are reverting to type. Havertz was shipped out by Chelsea. Trossard was at Brighton. Martinelli was in the Brazilian 4th division. Jesus never scored more than 15 in a side that was dominant. It’s all in the recruitment. Poor.
Yeah. Good points and to be honest, it's the ones not improving that start to cost a team when it matters because they can't step in or step it up when the situation demands it. Rice and Odergaard are perhaps the only players that have come in and brought the team up to a better level in a position. Saliba was an Emery signing and loaned out so I suppose he might count at a push but Havertz, Trossard, Partey, Jesus, Tomiasu, Sterling, Calafiori, Merino, Vieira, Zinchenko, Kiwior and a few others have been average at best. That's not good enough when it matters and not a single one of those has been in a position that was needed at the time. The Merino one in particular stands out as fucking ridiculous when you consider that for 18 months beforehand the team was desperate for a goal scorer and not only that but it now means we haven't got the financial resources to get one to solve the same fucking problem this window. Fucking madness. 800m quid for a bunch of bang average players and Cheaty and Chavs rejects. People have every reason to start getting critical and demand accountability.
Agree. I think Merino is Partey’s replacement. Looks poor so far.

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Thynker wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:58 pm
To think how much was wasted on Calafiori and Merino.
Just think how that would have impacted our budget for buying a striker.

Honestly, for next season we're looking at

New CDM
New CAM
New winger
New striker
All of these must be top notch players with 3 at least for the first X1
But first up........ a new manager, who will be tasked to purchase the above.

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TeeCee buddy I have to take issue with two of your points there -

1. You say that we were superb in the second half of last season but I dont remember it that way a all
Augie - Seriously? From 1st Jan we played 18 PL games, won 16, drew 1 and lost 1 and scored 54 goals in those games. You don't call that superb??? I'm genuinely amazed at that. Maybe I'm alone in thinking it, but as someone who followed Arsenal through GG's time when we were truly awful at times and even when we won a lot of games we didn't necessarily play well in doing so, lots of 1-0"s! Those last 18 games were awesome at times! :shock:

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TeeCee wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:33 pm
TeeCee buddy I have to take issue with two of your points there -

1. You say that we were superb in the second half of last season but I dont remember it that way a all
Augie - Seriously? From 1st Jan we played 18 PL games, won 16, drew 1 and lost 1 and scored 54 goals in those games. You don't call that superb??? I'm genuinely amazed at that. Maybe I'm alone in thinking it, but as someone who followed Arsenal through GG's time when we were truly awful at times and even when we won a lot of games we didn't necessarily play well in doing so, lots of 1-0"s! Those last 18 games were awesome at times! :shock:
Lots of revisionism to suit arguments on here. We were like a steam train other than losing to Villa in a weird game where we got mugged. Too many people read social media wind up merchants from other teams saying “Arsenal bottled the league” and end up believing it.

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Reno Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:45 pm
Thynker wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:58 pm
To think how much was wasted on Calafiori and Merino.
Just think how that would have impacted our budget for buying a striker.

Honestly, for next season we're looking at

New CDM
New CAM
New winger
New striker
All of these must be top notch players with 3 at least for the first X1
But first up........ a new manager, who will be tasked to purchase the above.
Agreed - more important than anything else. Save the money for someone who knows how to spend it and doesn't want to turn us into Stoke City 2025. If you gave this twat 100m to buy a striker he'd buy another left back and a holding midfielder and someone on loan from Chelsea

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:34 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:28 pm
Havertz had the flu and was out against Brentford from memory. Think we are playing players that are not really back up to speed and he’s got into a habit of missing sitters.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :barscarf:
The five for Limerick mask reappears, despite the other posts attempt to cover his tracks and pretend to be anything but an akb.

Havertz has never been up to speed. Awful player.

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