ALL Transfer talk - merged thread

[SteveO 35]

According to @Eurosport_UK, William Saliba is available for a move as sources indicate that there is no future for him at the club while Mikel Arteta is in charge. #Arsenal https://t.co/4DgFE9ixHy

#Arsenal will also consider serious offers for Granit Xhaka. https://t.co/YKMcydbgnr

I dont know if saliba is good enough or not, but what I will say with absolute certainty, is that we will never know if he is good enough unless he actually gets to play some games. Some might say that he must be shit in training or else arteta would play him, but again I will ask "could he be any worse than mustafi or maybe holding" ? Is there ever gonna come a time when arteta realises that players like xhaka, willian, mustafi and holding (and there are more) are simply not good enough ? All I see is young players being fcuked out of the club or left in the stand - easy options for a brainless coward

Its a genuine mystery with Saliba isn't it? The club wanted him for what seemed like ages, but as far as I can recall there wasn't a whole host of other clubs interested?

He must be absolutely shite in training and for the academy if he hasn't done enough to even be on the bench or considered ahead of the players you mentioned, which almost defies belief.

For me the 'acid test' for Arteta and his view towards younger players will be when we have a fully fit Martinelli. If pricks like Willian and Lacazette keep him out of the side then I think we'll know once and for all what we suspect is his attitude towards youth vs his old mates

Saliba was meant to be a player coveted by a lot of the bigger clubs in europe when we signed him

I will also say that I will in no way place any faith at all in arteta's assessment of him - a manager that continues to pick willian and xhaka deserves to lose all credibility when it comes to judging players.

Mate, I'd go a step further. Anyone who chose to re-sign Ceballos - a man without a PL goal or assist - for another season, and who chooses to play Xhaka or Kolasinac at centre half ahead of Saliba must be set for the local asylum. Just wonder if this off field stuff has ruined Saliba?

[augie]

I want arteta gone asap for many reasons - one of the reasons is that I want a new guy willing to give saliba a chance before it is too late, cos it is widely accepted that he is close to the door and it raises the possibility of his sale coming back to haunt us in the long term. It is one thing to under use and sell a player like gnarby who is now top quality, but to pay £27m for a player and not even give him one minute on the bench much less the pitch - can you imagine how that will play out if saliba develops under a proper manager and becomes a quality defender in years to come ? How stupid will we look ? Pep's waterboy will be long gone and it will the club and not him that will suffer

[SteveO 35]

I want arteta gone asap for many reasons - one of the reasons is that I want a new guy willing to give saliba a chance before it is too late, cos it is widely accepted that he is close to the door and it raises the possibility of his sale coming back to haunt us in the long term. It is one thing to under use and sell a player like gnarby who is now top quality, but to pay £27m for a player and not even give him one minute on the bench much less the pitch - can you imagine how that will play out if saliba develops under a proper manager and becomes a quality defender in years to come ? How stupid will we look ? Pep's waterboy will be long gone and it will the club and not him that will suffer

Just one of a few bad decisions - I more worried about the players he has brought into the club and the home grown talents like Smith Rowe that are going to waste. Auba will fuck off and flourish somewhere else for 2-3 years too as he is absolutely proven top drawer, Never mind I'm sure Lacazette and Eddie will come good for the water carrier

[GoonerMuzz]

I always found the Saliba situation odd in the first place, we were desperate for decent CBs and paid £27M for one with a lot of supposed potential and then left him on loan to 'gain' experience at his older club, why couldnt he gain it with us. I was surprised Emery accepted that at the time.

Sanhelli spent £100M on two players from the French league both of whom seem to have been duds for various reasons. Bear in mind too that he would have had some say in bringing Arteta in to replace Emery

[augie]

I always found the Saliba situation odd in the first place, we were desperate for decent CBs and paid £27M for one with a lot of supposed potential and then left him on loan to 'gain' experience at his older club, why couldnt he gain it with us. I was surprised Emery accepted that at the time.

Sanhelli spent £100M on two players from the French league both of whom seem to have been duds for various reasons. Bear in mind too that he would have had some say in bringing Arteta in to replace Emery

Let's be fair muzz, we cannot label saliba a dud when he has never had the chance to show what he is - there are others of course, but the gnarby sale and his subsequent rise has left a scar cos it is something that I never want to see happen again. We have had a lot of over-hyped duds come through our academy over the years but most got a chance to show what they could do before moving them on - we wanted this much lauded kid from france (dubbed the next varane in his home country) so badly that we paid 27m for him and allowed him to stay another season in france so that we could clinch the deal, and it really does not make sense that we are now going to fcuk him off without giving him a chance. Buying young players and allowing them to stay with their old club on loan for another season is becoming more popular, and for me it made perfect sense due to saliba's age and experience at that time. I have seen players like senderos (for example) come through before being labelled as not being of required standard - he is franco baresi compared to some of the clowns arteta is using and naming in his 18, and saliba should have been given a chance to stake his claim in the ropey league at the very least, but this c.unt would rather stick with the shit already accumulated

I see a comment from saliba this morning saying something along the lines of how he has been locked away in the closet alongside guendouzi - could his friendship with guendouzi be the issue here ? It is well known that the douzi spoke with saliba and persuaded him to sign, and I'm wondering if their friendship is resulting a lack of trust in saliba from pep's waterboy Maybe it is a coincidence too, but it seems that most of the players arteta is fcuking off were emery signings - a way to ensure no loyalty to previous manager undermines him ?

[SteveO 35]

I always found the Saliba situation odd in the first place, we were desperate for decent CBs and paid £27M for one with a lot of supposed potential and then left him on loan to 'gain' experience at his older club, why couldnt he gain it with us. I was surprised Emery accepted that at the time.

Sanhelli spent £100M on two players from the French league both of whom seem to have been duds for various reasons. Bear in mind too that he would have had some say in bringing Arteta in to replace Emery

Let's be fair muzz, we cannot label saliba a dud when he has never had the chance to show what he is - there are others of course, but the gnarby sale and his subsequent rise has left a scar cos it is something that I never want to see happen again. We have had a lot of over-hyped duds come through our academy over the years but most got a chance to show what they could do before moving them on - we wanted this much lauded kid from france (dubbed the next varane in his home country) so badly that we paid 27m for him and allowed him to stay another season in france so that we could clinch the deal, and it really does not make sense that we are now going to fcuk him off without giving him a chance. Buying young players and allowing them to stay with their old club on loan for another season is becoming more popular, and for me it made perfect sense due to saliba's age and experience at that time. I have seen players like senderos (for example) come through before being labelled as not being of required standard - he is franco baresi compared to some of the clowns arteta is using and naming in his 18, and saliba should have been given a chance to stake his claim in the ropey league at the very least, but this c.unt would rather stick with the shit already accumulated

I see a comment from saliba this morning saying something along the lines of how he has been locked away in the closet alongside guendouzi - could his friendship with guendouzi be the issue here ? It is well known that the douzi spoke with saliba and persuaded him to sign, and I'm wondering if their friendship is resulting a lack of trust in saliba from pep's waterboy Maybe it is a coincidence too, but it seems that most of the players arteta is fcuking off were emery signings - a way to ensure no loyalty to previous manager undermines him ?

That is the biggest crime for me. We were always going to get 18 points from this group, and once we'd won the first three we were virtually assured of it. To see Mustafi lumbering around out there FFS - what on earth is he going to learn about a useless *word censored* like that. Ditto Ceballos, ditto Kolasinac. Saliba, Azeez and Smith Rowe should have played all these games - arguably all six group games and we'd still have won the group. Those three would have gained so much confidence in the way that Saka and Martinelli did in the previous seasons. Instead he's handing out appearances to those fucking wankers, making Xhaka captain for the odd game and playing the Southampton reject

The Thursday Night Cup gave us a gift wrapped chance to play our best kids for six games - what an opportunity wasted

[mcdowell42]

According to @TuttoMercatoWeb, Atletico have agreed to end Lucas Torreira's loan next month after the player 'did not meet expectations'. https://t.co/GxO9jtrl6i

[Clummo99]

According to @TuttoMercatoWeb, Atletico have agreed to end Lucas Torreira's loan next month after the player 'did not meet expectations'. https://t.co/GxO9jtrl6i

Can't say I'm surprised tbh.

[SteveO 35]

We're going to give this sad act of a manager the January transfer window to really fuck us over aren't we?

Honestly - a single penny spent by this prick will be one too many. He'll probably sign John Stones if he gets any money to spend as why have 9 centre halves when you can have 10

[augie]

According to @TuttoMercatoWeb, Atletico have agreed to end Lucas Torreira's loan next month after the player 'did not meet expectations'. https://t.co/GxO9jtrl6i

And if we are lucky we will also get a new manager for christmas too, and this manager will put torreira alongside partey and banish xhaka and el nenny to never be seen again

[augie]

So edu say's that the club wont be buying their way out of trouble in next month's transfer window - that fcuks us then cos we certainly wont be coached out of it

Is this refusal to buy our way out of this trouble an indication of a lack of trust in the manager, or is it more likely that they are not interested in spending any more cash after a "big splash" in the last window ?

There were comments doing the rounds last night (from ornstein I think) where he said that the club have no intention of selling saliba next month and that they still believe that he will become a great player for this club - I notice that it is the club saying that they still believe in saliba, not the manager saying it. I had this argument last night when one of my sons over this report and he tried to argue that it is better saying that the club still believe in saliba - I said to him that it whether the board or edu or anyone else believes in saliba, because the only thing that matters in a situation like this is whether the manager believes in him, and that if the statement said that the manager believes in saliba, it would have put this whole story to bed straight away. Comments coming from saliba's camp suggest that he would prefer a loan spell to another english club rather than a move back to france, and I do wonder if edu or someone else behind the scenes has had a word and told him that the club still believe in him and dont intend to sell him

[IW8Goalmachine]

Didn't edu run his contract down to go on a free?

Only fitting that he had them words to say

[DB10GOONER]

We're going to give this sad act of a manager the January transfer window to really fuck us over aren't we?

Honestly - a single penny spent by this prick will be one too many. He'll probably sign John Stones if he gets any money to spend as why have 9 centre halves when you can have 10

The fact they didn't sack Gibb-Lite after the debacle against the Ginger Cum Guzzler would indicate you are bang on the money there mate. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.....

[SteveO 35]

We're going to give this sad act of a manager the January transfer window to really fuck us over aren't we?

Honestly - a single penny spent by this prick will be one too many. He'll probably sign John Stones if he gets any money to spend as why have 9 centre halves when you can have 10

The fact they didn't sack Gibb-Lite after the debacle against the Ginger Cum Guzzler would indicate you are bang on the money there mate. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.....

If we all stood aside as fans and looked at the situation from afar, you'd say that Arsenal "the business" is getting absolutely everything it deserves for the last (almost) 10 years under Kroenke's ownership.

The shareholders and board who didn't want "his sort", shamelessly selling up when they smelt the Yankee dollar first of all. Then the appointment of a bunch of commercial goons, marketeers and those interested in the property and TV rights without a thought for what goes on, on the pitch. The continual rewarding of a man 10 years past his sell by date at £8.5m a year when the chance to hire some of the world's best managers for less than that whilst we were still a CL team was passed up. Backing that guy to waste £200m on absolute ***** that the next two managers couldn't shift for love nor money. The only owner in the league not to have put in a penny of his own investment. Finally, sacking a guy after 1 year for improving upon the final year of the goon who'd outstayed his welcome by a decade......and then appointing a 37 year old novice with zero managerial experience. Chuck in the debacle of Ljungberg's short reign when the poor fucker was left juggling multiple jobs, paying dividends for services rendered to Josh and co etc. Oh, and charging the highest ticket prices in the league shamelessly after the last recession and offering no concession or payment plans

The only people who deserve better are the suffering fans. The absolute c.unt at the top and most of his kling ons and managerial appointments deserve relegation for a decade of abysmal leadership and management

[mcdowell42]

According to @laythy29, #Arsenal & Leeds are battling to sign Israel international winger Manor Solomon from Shakhtar Donetsk. https://t.co/1I9kU12TBq