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Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:20 pm
by GranadaJoe
Red Snapper wrote:Stephen Crabb hasn't been around long enough to have much mud stuck to him and seems a down to earth, intelligent bloke. (I'm assuming he's the Northern bloke with the scarce beard?)!
He's got links to the Christian Action Research and Education advocacy group which opposes homosexuality (they sponsored a conference which affirmed that homosexuality can be cured), abortion (its counsellors were filmed stating that an abortion can increase the probability of breast cancer and predispose women to become child abusers) and prostitution (are they crazy, how else is DB10 going to get laid??!!).
They also work to put their 'associates' into Parliament as researchers to MPs.
He's a 'committed' Christian, with 'a strong affinity to the Holy land'.
Worse still he was born in Scotland and brought up in Wales.
CARE is an obnoxious organisation and I distrust every politician who has a personal relationship with a magic man in the sky.
None of the candidates for the Tory or Labour leader engender much confidence.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:57 pm
by Chippy
Red Snapper wrote:Chippy wrote:Red Snapper wrote:Stephen Crabb hasn't been around long enough to have much mud stuck to him and seems a down to earth, intelligent bloke. (I'm assuming he's the Northern bloke with the scarce beard?)!
He's Welsh. Does that change your mind?

Not a problem; there aren't any flocks of sheep in Westminster to dtstract him! Also, I'm too old to be in the loop of current language; I'm still using "cool", "far out" and "groovy" so what do you lot mean by "battiness"?
Batty boy is a homophobic name West Indians use for gays.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:21 pm
by Henry Norris 1913
stock market made a quite sizeable recovery today.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:26 pm
by Chippy
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:stock market made a quite sizeable recovery today.
This is a roller coaster and you ain't seen nothing yet.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:41 pm
by Red Snapper
Chippy wrote:Red Snapper wrote:Chippy wrote:Red Snapper wrote:Stephen Crabb hasn't been around long enough to have much mud stuck to him and seems a down to earth, intelligent bloke. (I'm assuming he's the Northern bloke with the scarce beard?)!
He's Welsh. Does that change your mind?

Not a problem; there aren't any flocks of sheep in Westminster to dtstract him! Also, I'm too old to be in the loop of current language; I'm still using "cool", "far out" and "groovy" so what do you lot mean by "battiness"?
Batty boy is a homophobic name West Indians use for gays.
Oh OK. I withdraw my previous "no mud" comment then!
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:17 pm
by Nos89
Considering Boris has decided not to step up. Beginning to get the feeling the Government got the result it wanted. No government since we joined in 1972 has fully the EEC/ EU be it Conservative or Labour.
Crazy to think we'll have a summer holiday before anything actually happens.
Just waiting for Article 50 to be activated....

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:46 pm
by Henry Norris 1913
Chippy wrote:Henry Norris 1913 wrote:stock market made a quite sizeable recovery today.
This is a roller coaster and you ain't seen nothing yet.

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:30 pm
by Chippy
Nos89 wrote:Considering Boris has decided not to step up. Beginning to get the feeling the Government got the result it wanted. No government since we joined in 1972 has fully the EEC/ EU be it Conservative or Labour.
Crazy to think we'll have a summer holiday before anything actually happens.
Just waiting for Article 50 to be activated....

This bloke reckons it is highly likely it will never happen.
http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-the-a ... important/
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:03 pm
by Red Snapper
Chippy wrote:Nos89 wrote:Considering Boris has decided not to step up. Beginning to get the feeling the Government got the result it wanted. No government since we joined in 1972 has fully the EEC/ EU be it Conservative or Labour.
Crazy to think we'll have a summer holiday before anything actually happens.
Just waiting for Article 50 to be activated....

This bloke reckons it is highly likely it will never happen.
http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-the-a ... important/
Is that a decent precis of the article because I have to go to sleep sometime and that looks a lot of reading!
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:21 pm
by Chippy
Red Snapper wrote:Chippy wrote:Nos89 wrote:Considering Boris has decided not to step up. Beginning to get the feeling the Government got the result it wanted. No government since we joined in 1972 has fully the EEC/ EU be it Conservative or Labour.
Crazy to think we'll have a summer holiday before anything actually happens.
Just waiting for Article 50 to be activated....

This bloke reckons it is highly likely it will never happen.
http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-the-a ... important/
Is that a decent precis of the article because I have to go to sleep sometime and that looks a lot of reading!
His argument is that it will be the typical British "long grass", the longer we don't do it the less likely it is to happen. Rings true to me. Imagine being the PM who finally pushes the button.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:25 am
by the playing mantis
Chippy wrote:Henry Norris 1913 wrote:stock market made a quite sizeable recovery today.
This is a roller coaster and you ain't seen nothing yet.
Oh so when it's up its a roller coaster when it went down the end was nigh....
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:28 am
by the playing mantis
Chippy wrote:Red Snapper wrote:Chippy wrote:Nos89 wrote:Considering Boris has decided not to step up. Beginning to get the feeling the Government got the result it wanted. No government since we joined in 1972 has fully the EEC/ EU be it Conservative or Labour.
Crazy to think we'll have a summer holiday before anything actually happens.
Just waiting for Article 50 to be activated....

This bloke reckons it is highly likely it will never happen.
http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-the-a ... important/
Is that a decent precis of the article because I have to go to sleep sometime and that looks a lot of reading!
His argument is that it will be the typical British "long grass", the longer we don't do it the less likely it is to happen. Rings true to me. Imagine being the PM who finally pushes the button.
Yeah he will have a mandate from the majority of the electorate which bothered to vote. exercising through countries democratic wishes despite the wailing of a few hurt lefties.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:59 am
by northbank123
Chippy wrote:Nos89 wrote:Considering Boris has decided not to step up. Beginning to get the feeling the Government got the result it wanted. No government since we joined in 1972 has fully the EEC/ EU be it Conservative or Labour.
Crazy to think we'll have a summer holiday before anything actually happens.
Just waiting for Article 50 to be activated....

This bloke reckons it is highly likely it will never happen.
http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-the-a ... important/
I've heard a few people in work say this. It's just wishful thinking from those who can't come to terms with the result.
I get the theory that the vote gives UK more leverage to negotiate in return for its continued membership. But the bottom line is that the EU will not negotiate on fundamental freedoms and without changes to the UK's ability to levy immigration controls (whether superficial or meaningful) there is no way they will placate Leave voters.
People aren't going to let this referendum result slide and if the UK were to stay within the EU it would take a bold act of defiance by politicians to simply refuse to honour the referendum result. And any MP doing so might as well kiss away the idea of any vote from constituents who voted Leave at future general elections.
Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:10 am
by DB10GOONER
Chippy wrote:Red Snapper wrote:Chippy wrote:Red Snapper wrote:Stephen Crabb hasn't been around long enough to have much mud stuck to him and seems a down to earth, intelligent bloke. (I'm assuming he's the Northern bloke with the scarce beard?)!
He's Welsh. Does that change your mind?

Not a problem; there aren't any flocks of sheep in Westminster to dtstract him! Also, I'm too old to be in the loop of current language; I'm still using "cool", "far out" and "groovy" so what do you lot mean by "battiness"?
Batty boy is a homophobic name West Indians use for gays.
Which now has more of a socio-comedic connotation than an insulting homophobic one, thanks mostly to the Ali G characterisation. Gays have claimed the word, much as they reclaimed "queer". According to Spuddy anyway.
If you seriously use the term "batty boy" as an insult in your everyday speech you will be viewed mostly as an asshole nowadays.

Re: EU referendum - What will you vote?
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:32 am
by Herd
Back to the referendum ,it strikes me that it is most likely thaqt Theresa May will get in and she is unlikely to allow Brexit to happen !
Even if she does she will then enter into a rush of trade agreements which will mean the end of democracy in the uk forever .
Far worse than the EU far worse than anything you have EVER seen is TTIP !
It will change the world forever !