THE WENGER THREAD

[I Hate Hleb]

Pre last nights game, Neville and carragher showed our results and point tally from this seasons games and compared them to last seasons corresponding fixtures and showed up that we are 5pts down from last season - granted most of us level headed Gooners knew that, but at least it might quell the *****-a-thon about our form in the media ...

To be fair augie if they did the same with the other top teams corresponding results I'm sure there would also be differences, so I'm not sure how much relevance the comparison actually has - especially in this of all seasons.

[Steve_I]

I think we should lose all our games just to keep the unhappy guys happy

lol

[1989]

Pre last nights game, Neville and carragher showed our results and point tally from this seasons games and compared them to last seasons corresponding fixtures and showed up that we are 5pts down from last season - granted most of us level headed Gooners knew that, but at least it might quell the *****-a-thon about our form in the media The thing I will say though is that this season we do seem to be playing with more confidence but whether we have the same level of confidence in 6 weeks time remains to be seen

It does truly amaze me though (and I don't want to start steve o off on another rant here ) how many Gooners are in a constant orgasmic state at how we are currently doing and are in favour of wenker signing a new deal If our form and results continues like this until xmas then maybe I could understand it (but not agree with it) but to go ott this early and after the easy run of fixtures we have had, is mad imo

It's a bollocks argument that ignores form, injuries, suspensions, etc. Every game is different. For example, we drew at home against Sunderland last season. If we were to play Sunderland at home now in the form the respective teams are in, you'd be a brave man to back Sunderland to hold us to a draw.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Fuck me sideways there's some proper miserable *word censored* on here

Some of you would make a cross between victor meldrew and alf Garnett seem like a bright and breezy happy go lucky colourful character full of the joys of spring

Keep it up though cos I like reading it, makes me feel like an eternal optimist

[mcdowell42]

Its like buying a lottery ticket and winning 500 but then complaining tht u bought a lottery ticket last year and won a 1000.

[officepest]

Arsene who?

[DB10GOONER]

Pre last nights game, Neville and carragher showed our results and point tally from this seasons games and compared them to last seasons corresponding fixtures and showed up that we are 5pts down from last season - granted most of us level headed Gooners knew that, but at least it might quell the *****-a-thon about our form in the media The thing I will say though is that this season we do seem to be playing with more confidence but whether we have the same level of confidence in 6 weeks time remains to be seen

It does truly amaze me though (and I don't want to start steve o off on another rant here ) how many Gooners are in a constant orgasmic state at how we are currently doing and are in favour of wenker signing a new deal If our form and results continues like this until xmas then maybe I could understand it (but not agree with it) but to go ott this early and after the easy run of fixtures we have had, is mad imo

It's a bollocks argument that ignores form, injuries, suspensions, etc. Every game is different. For example, we drew at home against Sunderland last season. If we were to play Sunderland at home now in the form the respective teams are in, you'd be a brave man to back Sunderland to hold us to a draw.

Whilst I am yet to be convinced this side can win anything, I do agree that this argument about last year's points at this stage compared to this year's points is fucking ludicrous. It's a quantative stats based argument and as 1989 points out the argument doesn't take into account qualitive criteria like form, injuries, suspensions. For this stupid argument to even begin to make any sense we'd have to play the same teams at the same time of year, with the same players, under the same weather conditions, with the same officials - and still that wouldn't take into account FORM, both individual and squad wide!

I really could not be arsed to check this, but I wonder if we looked at the first 10 games of the 1996-97 season and compared them with the first 10 games of the 1997-98 season (or compared 03 with 04) what would we get? I'll tell you - absolute bollocks, like all stats.

[Perryashburtongroves]

It's his birthday today and 64 must be a good age to opt for the pension, mustn't it?

[Sam59]

It's his birthday today and 64 must be a good age to opt for the pension, mustn't it?

Pensionable age keeps going up and up actually, it'll be 80 by the time you get there

Seriously, wonder which Wenger will turn up this season, given the way we are playing - the old Wenger, who assumed tactics and studying the opposition were unnecessary as his team were so good that we just had to go out and play our game; or the Wenger of last season, who seemed finally to realise that he had some pretty ordinary players so had better adapt tactically to each opponent.
Wonder if he'll have made plans for Lewandowski and Reus tonight, or just hope the magic keeps flowing?
I"m reading Philippe Auclair's biography of TH14 and he says he was astonished that Wenger paid cursory attention to Barcelona the evening before the Final itself and not before. Cesc also stated that Guardiola did intense studies of Barcelona's opponents, which never happened at Arsenal.

PS the natural state of the older Arsenal fan is quiet pessimism and neuroticism, which makes the pleasure of days like saturday all the greater. Not grumpy, just rational!
Happy Birthday I hope to Arsene the Alsatian

[SteveO 35]

Didn't hear any "There's Only One..." chants tonight. Funny that - the usual half emptied bowl after another CL defeat against the first genuine CL challengers faced

[Sam59]

I'm very superstitious and our bad result coincided (as in previous years) with the re-emergence of Wenger's new oversized coat. Seen enough to hope that Klopp is our new manager whenever that happens. Wenger's said he'll decide mid season apparently.

[TurnipMasher]

I'm very superstitious and our bad result coincided (as in previous years) with the re-emergence of Wenger's new oversized coat. Seen enough to hope that Klopp is our new manager whenever that happens.

Ha ha! Was about to type something very similar. Klopp would be far and away my choice to replace Wenger but I doubt it will happen, sadly.

[Henry Norris 1913]

well thats our nice easy run over. hope the kneejerkers are happy, time to see what this side is made from but we ain't going to be in the top 3 by december you can mark my words

[SteveO 35]

well thats our nice easy run over. hope the kneejerkers are happy, time to see what this side is made from but we ain't going to be in the top 3 by december you can mark my words

Agreed, 4th by Christmas when all of the lobotomy cases of the first two months of this season will suddenly remember that having a top class striker wasn't addressed over a whole 3 month Summer that saw all the other big teams change manager

[King Henry]

We narrowly lost to one of the best teams in Europe and already Wenger's getting criticised . Can't wait until we play United and Liverpool, think we'll do better than a lot of people are predicting.