Scum Away 5th March 2016

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Re: Scum Away 5th March 2016

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Today was the day Spurs started crumbling. If that game was in January they would have gone on to win 4-1 or 5-1 but you could tell they were nervous as fuck and their fans were fairly silent considering. Chucked two points away and wth tricky Europa League ties coming thick and fast and a horrendous April they are going to go off the rails.

Nice to rob two points in a game they will have 100% expected to cruise from 2-1 up. Point isn't much use for us but at this stage there is more chance of finding rocking horse shit than us winning the league so nice to do our bit to stop them from winning it. Showed what an average side they really are today.

Gibbs was alarming, the bloke can't even kick a fucking ball properly. Gabriel is a disaster waiting to happen. Elneny is a million miles off the pace. Fair play to Welbeck, never going to be a top striker but thought he was excellent and ran himself into the ground for the team. Contrast that with Giroud who was on for 20 minutes and spent most of that lazily walking about rather than closing down, arrogant prick. Good goal but it is scary how much worse Ramsey can actually get. Not even going to waste my breath on Coquelin, brainless isn't even the word and if Wenger hadn't neglected our need for a DM for nearly a decade this bloke would struggle to be a fringe player.

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Coquelan career has mirrored that of Alex Song. Average player, going nowhere, loaned out to Charlton. Brought back and turn's out to be a useless brain dead footballer.

Can only hope dopey Barca buy him for £20m :D :D

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Coquelin has done ok as an emergency stopgap but he's just not good enough, the blokes biggest trait is that he isn't Flamini or Arteta.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
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SteveO 35 wrote: Sorry
Coquelin can fuck right off in my book. Folk on here slaughtered Diaby for supposedly singlehandedly giving Newcastle all 4 goals in their comeback when he got sent off. Any ten players worth their wages should have closed out a 4 goal advantage against a shit Newcastle side, but nope Abou got slaughtered for shoving that c.unt Joey Barton who absolutely nailed him. Coquelin on the other hand got 2 fucking shit for brains bookings in supposedly one of our biggest NLDs for years with the score at 1-0. Sorry isn't enough - get him out of the fucking side and back in the reserves and teach the selfish little prick a lesson
I think there's a big difference between getting yourself sent off for violent conduct for an off the ball incident and picking up a second yellow for a mistimed, but braindead, tackle when trying to win the ball.

Coquelin had eyes and mind only on winning the ball and helping the team; Diaby had no such defence. So surely, Diaby was selfish? but Coquelin? - what was his motivation other than winning the ball?

Not sure putting him in the reserves and exposing ourselves to Flamini is the answer either. Surely that's cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Personally, I think he's fully aware of what he did and will want to make up for it, so let him try and atone. Same logic for Diaby; he made a mistake and banishing him into the reserves isn't the answer.

A hefty fine and a lot of finger pointing and honesty from his team mates too :cussing: :box:
Probably both selfish - but surely doing it when you're 4-0 up and as a genuine human reaction to some absolute cuntbag flying in at you is more understandable than falling on the ball rugby style and then being stupid enough to slide in on a bloke on the touchline knowing you've already been booked?

Absolutely no defence for Coquelin in my book. That red card has been a while coming. I watched him in the Swansea game and he was diving in like no-one's business. Amazed that someone like Steve Bould who was probably one of the best tacklers I can ever remember watching hasn't taken him to one side


Am I right in saying that bouldie all but finished david hurst's career with one "through the back of him" tackles back in the day ? Hurst was a clinical goal scorer in his pomp and bouldie decided to put down a marker on him, and hurst never really recovered after the injury 8)

Re coquelin, I haven't seen the game yet but this has been an accident waiting to happen for a long, long time imo - his tendency to fly into unwinnable tackles is almost as bad as flamoney but without the ridiculous pointing and waving :roll: It's quite possible that both suffer from the "small man syndrome" - the DM position is normally the domain of big physically powerful midfielders, and the likes of our two short arsed clowns are nowhere commanding enough for the job and so they try to compensate with wild "I'm a hardman me" type of tackles :roll: :oops:

Many of you will be aware that I don't rate coquelin that highly and from the sounds of it he did screw us over today - that being said I will give him some credit for coming out and apologising afterwards. It doesn't excuse what he did by any means, but a lot of these cu.nts don't feel that they owe the fans or the club anything and so they don't give a flying fu.ck when they balls up :evil: I do wonder however, if sanchez or somebody had a go at him afterwards in the dressing room - seems surprising that a player would come out with an apology unless forced/prompted to do so

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Indeed Abou got sent off for a push on Pikey Barton and then later on in the game our keeper gets wrestled to the ground after one of the "penaltys" and nothing not even a yellow.

Today Coqs 2nd yellow while I feel it was a yellow in the current environment and was def stupid while already on yellow - its one of them that refs don't give the 2nd yellow for and show a bit of lenience (sometimes) as seen to be the case when he showed the lenience to the scum player which for me was more of a 2nd yellow coz it was a deliberate pull down whereas Coqs was a mistimed tackle. And indeed even after that Bellerin could have got a 2nd yellow for his pull back but the ref cacked it. And one final and - Lamela (already on yellow) pushes Sanchez who pushes him back - one yellow given to Sanchez.

Consistency would be great from week to week but unfortunately u cant even get it in the same game and it obviously has a big bearing in the outcome of a game.

For me none of the incidents mentioned above should lead to red cards, it really is time a sin bin situation has to be looked at for lesser offences and obviously the reds can be issued for the Shawcross type tackle.

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The only positive from today was helping to dent Spurs title challenge, but i'm actually pissed off with the draw because that was a game we threw away. Firstly, on the Coquelin sending off, I honestly have to question his mental state, if he thinks at 1-0, and on a yellow to do a tackle like that, what was to be gained from it. If his decision making is that poor, then he shouldn't be in the team for the rest of the season. Secondly, the two goals we conceded had nothing to do with being down to 10 men, it was just down to idiotic defending. For the 1st goal, we had plenty of men in the box, but allowed Alderweireld to have a free run on Ospina. On the 2nd goal, after an awful mistake by Mertesacker, we completely backed off Kane, and allowed him the freedom of the park to shoot. On a side-note, today proved what a brilliant player Sanchez is, and showed up the average play and work-rate of most of the other players around him. The only question mark is to who he will join next season, because he would want to be nuts to stick with his Wanker, and his band of losers.

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It's not Coquelin's fault - Wenger brought flamini back to teach our mid-field how to tackle.....so blame wenker. :wink:

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I've been quietly impressed with Danny since he came back from injury, i just wish he knew when and how to shoot, his movement and pace are so much harder for defenders to deal with than Giroud.

I'd actually like to see him get a few games up front as the loan striker to see if he could develop something of himself :rubchin:

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augie wrote:
Swifty wrote:If we are serious 8 of our final 9 are gimmes.

You having a laff ? We have citeeh away, everton away and shammers away, and not one of those is a gimme :roll:
In my defence it was 2am here and I was smashed and just quietly I don't remember typing that :oops: :barscarf:

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MrT wrote:
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Hope so mate, heard guys like Bully got attacked, just decent fans going to the game...Out of order from low life scum IMO
Would never say our lot are angels but fucking hell, there is a nasty vile savagery that comes from that lot.
It's awful what Jealousy will drive a person/people to do - especially when they are ill-educated, retarded filth. :wink:

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Coquelin has done ok as an emergency stopgap
Stopgap in the 'Almunia' sense of the word?.............ie first choice for the next 3 years? Wonga must have cum in his Y fronts when Coq had a good game when he came back, you could almost hear Wonga thinking 'That's another 20m saved'!! Wonga is the greediest cheapskate in the world. I bet his house has cash stuffed into every orifice! Greedy greedy bastard.

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We know Coquelin is not the answer. TOF loves to save transfer fees so he can overpay his little lambs wages :banghead:
GoonerMuzz wrote:I've been quietly impressed with Danny since he came back from injury, i just wish he knew when and how to shoot, his movement and pace are so much harder for defenders to deal with than Giroud.

I'd actually like to see him get a few games up front as the loan striker to see if he could develop something of himself :rubchin:
Agreed. He has the physicality of Giroud, but has pace too. He also has the football brain the Walcott lacks. It'd be nice to see him have another run as a striker, although Project Giroud must continue.

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Sorry, can we lay this myth about Welbeck's "pace" to rest? He has very limited pace. It takes him ten yards to get up to speed and by that time he has been left behind by most oppo defenders. Yes, compared to Giroud, he is quicker, but then so is my dead grandmother. In the big scheme of things Welbeck has no real pace, certainly not enough to play that lone striker role in a 4-5-1 especially when added to his often terrible first touch.

Not having a pop at Welbeck here. In fairness to him he has really put in a shift since he came back and should be starting ahead of the woefully out of form Giroud, but let's not get carried away, lads! :roll:

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Fair play. When standards have been set so low for so long, it does affect the perspective. Much like when Szczesny replaced Almunia or when Djourou replaced Squillaci :lol:

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Where was this amazing young English 'next Steven Gerrard' centre mid Spurs have got yesterday? All they had was some bloke called Dele Alli who looked distinctly average against the camel farmer and a bloke who tries to flick or backheel anything.

Their fans and players were so nervous at 2-1 which was ridiculous given the circumstances. They completely bottled it yesterday and did their best to end up with nothing. It's a sign of things to come for them.

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