THE WENGER THREAD

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VoiceOfReason
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Re: WENGER - Views For and Against.

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Dan_85 wrote:Klopp signs contract extension at BVB :(
In fairness, why wouldn't he. If I weren't attached to any particular club, Dortmund seems a much more attractive proposition than Arsenal at the moment. They're CL finalists and just beat us en route to a probable CL group win - wouldn't joining us be somewhat of a step down?

That's how I see it, anyway.

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One potential manager less

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If we are lucky and Wenger goes in May, we will not be able to get jurgen klopp, he just signed an extension until 2018.

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And if there's one thing we know, it's that managers never break their contracts early.

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VoiceOfReason wrote:And if there's one thing we know, it's that managers never break their contracts early.
Sadly this doesn't include Wenger :banghead:

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We don't need to worry about a new manager for a good few years yet..8 yrs which will defo be 9yrs potless :banghead: none of this matters to wiggy though as long as the cash keeps on flowing in.

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afcforever wrote:
Fever Pitch wrote:
clockender1 wrote:same failings tonight as the last three or fours years.

do we have an excuse yet ?

its flipping frustrating. nothing more to say.
There's a lot more to say. The best managers have know how to play wenger - hence mourinho has never lost wenger !

That's the story ... We continue with a manager who uses all resources to generate expected performance or "average " performance, with no prospect of "outperformance" and that is boring beyond belief !!

Meanwhile other teams are getting better .... Think about what that means in 3 years !
Mourinho has never lost to Wenger for one simple reason, the money the chavs have spent.
I'm just enjoying the moment being top, not for one minute do I expect to be there for long.
How can we compete with chelsea and Man city? In my eyes, they're not even big clubs.
Just hope we beat the mickies sat and stay top for a bit longer.
Not the biggest Wenger supporter, but will support him whilst hes manager.
Your comment on how much money the Chavs have, could have been said by Wenger himself, the usual excuses. The reality is we have not beaten Chelsea, because they have a manager who(like Ferguson did) changes his tactics game to game, depending on the opposition. Arsenal play the same way reguardless of the opposition, and it works against shit teams, but we will always be found out by any decent opposition we meet.

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clockender1 wrote:same failings tonight as the last three or fours years.

do we have an excuse yet ?

its flipping frustrating. nothing more to say.
here we go, same as Dortmund - not Wengers fault, not his tactics, formation, or preparation, but the players 'niaivety' again :
"We played at a very good pace, what happened is that we were a bit naive in some situations because some players lack experience," Wenger told Sky Sports.
shameful, that he a) can't see his own limitations, and b) won't admit his mistakes, and blames the players he bought, 'trains' and 'prepares'...

:censored:

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clockender1 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:same failings tonight as the last three or fours years.

do we have an excuse yet ?

its flipping frustrating. nothing more to say.
here we go, same as Dortmund - not Wengers fault, not his tactics, formation, or preparation, but the players 'niaivety' again :
"We played at a very good pace, what happened is that we were a bit naive in some situations because some players lack experience," Wenger told Sky Sports.
:censored:
shameful, that he a) can't see his own limitations, and b) won't admit his mistakes, and blames the players he bought, 'trains' and 'prepares'...

We are in the feel good stage of the season, when things are going well enough for Wenger to talk shite without ever being taken up on it, wait til we lose a few, and the pressure comes on, you will see him lash out at each and every question from the media, that he clearly has no answer to.

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BFG4 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:same failings tonight as the last three or fours years.

do we have an excuse yet ?

its flipping frustrating. nothing more to say.
here we go, same as Dortmund - not Wengers fault, not his tactics, formation, or preparation, but the players 'niaivety' again :
"We played at a very good pace, what happened is that we were a bit naive in some situations because some players lack experience," Wenger told Sky Sports.
:censored:
shameful, that he a) can't see his own limitations, and b) won't admit his mistakes, and blames the players he bought, 'trains' and 'prepares'...

We are in the feel good stage of the season, when things are going well enough for Wenger to talk shite without ever being taken up on it, wait til we lose a few, and the pressure comes on, you will see him lash out at each and every question from the media, that he clearly has no answer to.
The problem is that most of the time the media don't press him hard enough on these questions and our failings. He gets a pretty easy ride...

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Dan_85 wrote:
BFG4 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:
clockender1 wrote:same failings tonight as the last three or fours years.

do we have an excuse yet ?

its flipping frustrating. nothing more to say.
here we go, same as Dortmund - not Wengers fault, not his tactics, formation, or preparation, but the players 'niaivety' again :
"We played at a very good pace, what happened is that we were a bit naive in some situations because some players lack experience," Wenger told Sky Sports.
:censored:
shameful, that he a) can't see his own limitations, and b) won't admit his mistakes, and blames the players he bought, 'trains' and 'prepares'...

We are in the feel good stage of the season, when things are going well enough for Wenger to talk shite without ever being taken up on it, wait til we lose a few, and the pressure comes on, you will see him lash out at each and every question from the media, that he clearly has no answer to.
The problem is that most of the time the media don't press him hard enough on these questions and our failings. He gets a pretty easy ride...
Id agree, but in fairness he does behave like a child when he gets a question that he can not answer, so it leaves the media with the option of getting information out of him, or setting him off and letting him go off on a rant.

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Why would he come to club that doesn't like to spend money and has a history of sellling its best players, he might as well stay at Dortmund

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TurnipMasher wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:Klopp signs contract extension at BVB :(
Crap on a crutch :banghead: that's really fucked me off.
Fellas, whether you like him or not doesn't matter at this point - Wenger is getting a contract extension

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Jesus Christ, you'd think we just suddenly became the Scum or penniless Everton.

When he leaves there will be managers keen to work with what we do still have and given modest funds can improve it

FFS the squad is a bit thing in areas but not thredbare,

GK Ches decent but needs better coach and competiton

Defenders Per,Kos, Both decent, just neither set up for high line defending, TV5 better as a defensive midfielder. 2 centre backs required, one young and promising(for our boards purposes...CHEAP) and one experienced .

FB's Sagna still good but needs competition(experienced), Jenko is not as bad as we make out he's just not a top 4 FB yet. I think a run in a team and less spot light on every mistake maight allow him to develop. Loan to a midtable prem team.
FB Not much wrong with Gibbs/Monreal

Midfield all good but all play same position. Need a holding midfielder and out and out wingers.

Strikers OG and LP are both good but we need a world class one to join them.

5, max 6 players to make this not just a good squad but an excellent squad. Does that really sound like a basket case of a tea. Even what we have with decent tweeking can do better in the domestic cups than we have done.

We are still very much a big club in Europe all be it one that everyone sees as punching well below their weight. There are many good managers that would love the chance to come to us and say I made them great again.

If he manages to depart by the end of the season, I am not that worried as to who we'll get we are still a gret prospect.

So we have a good squad that needs more tactical coaching and

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The whole point of whether he goes or stays beyond this season is academic, he's not going to be sacked but rather moved upstairs and allowed to name his successor who I think he was talking about Stojkovic, his successor at Grampus and someone who has never managed in Europe.

Does anyone really think that he would go to Real Madrid or PSG with the lack of control he would have there, maybe just maybe the French national team.

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you're forgetting that Arsenal have already given Wenger his offer. why would he turn free money down when he 'wants to be here for life'....
Arsene Wenger has admitted Arsenal have offered him a new contract to stay beyond the end of his current deal but he is in no rush to put pen to paper just yet.

The Frenchman is out of contract at the end of this season but is keen to remain at the Emirates, with a two-year extension believed to be on the table.

Speaking at a press conference ahead of Saturday's visit of Norwich City, Wenger said: 'Yes, I didn't deny that (that a contract had been offered).
note that they offered this before we'd yet to play any decent side at all this year. no business acumen at all that Gazidis.

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