The Mesut Özil Thread

[northbank123]

Funny because I had the complete opposite conclusion. His ball retention is tremendous and his final ball tends to be very good bit against Villa he gave it away quite a few times around their box.

[DB10GOONER]

Either someone had a word or he has realised himself that the PL is much tougher than the Spanish league because according to SlySports he has been on the weights and tbh he looks a good deal stronger and better built since he came back from injury.

He'll never be a scrapper. He is a flair player. If you set up right (at least one top scrapper DM and maybe another box to box runner) in the middle you can accomodate and thrive on a player like him in the number 10 role. He has vision and is deft of touch and has true weight to his passing. You don't get to be the top assist provider in Europe without being a top player.

So Wenger needs to make a decision; do we set up to get the best out of our most brilliant and skilful players (Santi and Ozil) or insist in playing people out of position just to wedge them into your idea of what your system should be?

[manorhouse]

Hes Top Class if you cant see that your a mug

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

Either someone had a word or he has realised himself that the PL is much tougher than the Spanish league because according to SlySports he has been on the weights and tbh he looks a good deal stronger and better built since he came back from injury.

He'll never be a scrapper. He is a flair player. If you set up right (at least one top scrapper DM and maybe another box to box runner) in the middle you can accomodate and thrive on a player like him in the number 10 role. He has vision and is deft of touch and has true weight to his passing. You don't get to be the top assist provider in Europe without being a top player.

So Wenger needs to make a decision; do we set up to get the best out of our most brilliant and skilful players (Santi and Ozil) or insist in playing people out of position just to wedge them into your idea of what your system should be?

problem is theres only 1 spot for a number 10, and currently cazorla is playing brilliantly so ozil is forced to play wider. i think this can be okay because ozil comes inside anways, however you have to make sure Ramsey or Coq KNOW that the left is going to be vacant in transition and are aware that they need to have someone cover that side.

[Chippy]

Hes Top Class if you cant see that your a mug

Excellent contribution old chap. Thanks awfully.

[QuartzGooner]

Hes Top Class if you cant see that your a mug

Most instinctive and accurate passer we have had since Bergkamp.

Welcome to the Forum.
We will let you off your grammatical error, and illustrate this thread with the case that Ozil is a mug too, on occasion.

[g88ner]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ar ... ha-5124005

hmmm, is anyone at Arsenal not a smoker?

"The World Health Organisation has warned a one-hour shisha session is worse than smoking 100 cigarettes."

[REB]

why is it we are a better team when hes not in it, prob going to annoy people with this but i dont care if he left in the summer. a great player yes but not a team player.

[northbank123]

What I would say is that if you are going to ask somebody to play as a left wing-back funnelling up and down the touchline all game then for fucks sake why play Ozil? You'd be better off with Gibbs there.

It's fine playing him out wide at home to relegation fodder because it's fucking anarchy and he can drift all over the pitch ripping then to shreds along with all our other attackers. But as a genuine winger? Especially with a defensive emphasis? Fucking ludicrous.

[donaldo71]

Hes Top Class if you cant see that your a mug

When you say top class do you mean a top class magician?He disappears in the big games

[markyp]

I think weve all seen enough of Ozil now to know that we either build the team around him i.e playing in his correct position or we sell him,there is no middle ground with Ozil,hes looking like a fish up a tree in the premier league due to being played on the wing,the one game hes played behind the front man (villa away)he was world class,as it stands he is detrimental to the team as a wishy washy winger of sorts,we cant afford to carry anybody and Ozil through no fault of his own is being carried,WENKER OUT

[northbank123]

I think weve all seen enough of Ozil now to know that we either build the team around him i.e playing in his correct position or we sell him,there is no middle ground with Ozil,hes looking like a fish up a tree in the premier league due to being played on the wing,the one game hes played behind the front man (villa away)he was world class,as it stands he is detrimental to the team as a wishy washy winger of sorts,we cant afford to carry anybody and Ozil through no fault of his own is being carried,WENKER OUT

Agreed absolutely. Personally I would play Ozil at 10 for the rest of the season - given that it is another write-off bar FA Cup - and base his future on that.

[Thierry 3-8-99]

Given 3' out out of 10 in the Sunday times

[supergooner]

For me Mezut is just not the player he was at real madrid is desire to track back just some what annoying to see. He looks like he is a confidence player and i have seen him play well on several occasions but its not consistent so on that basis i would look to replace him.

[arseofacrow]

Ozil is the player to dictate the game, that's the only way it going to work. He can't play on the wing as it leaves us too exposed. And it doesn't provide width as the quality of most things provided the default wingers (monreal and gibbs) is quite shit.

Last night he moved inside and provided some real quality and, this is what Wenger would argue is the point: that he drifts inside anyway. But you can do that last night and it pays off but it doesn't make sense in other games against better teams. Even last night we struggled.

Finally, despite his work in the gym, he just doesn't seem suited to a lot of what English football contains. He's a bit slow to react when his touch is bad, he can be hounded pretty effectively.

And however some clever defends his body language - there is a reason there's a term body language. If Sanchez's body language is so positive, can it not be argued that someone who exudes the exact opposite, has a negative effect? English football is very different from Spanish football, where discussions like this are mainly redundant. But we talking about England, and you have to consider it.

Any way you look at it, we'd have to really focus the team around his football. Otherwise, we're leaving ourselves very exposed.