THE WENGER THREAD

[I Hate Hleb]

When he took Arteta off, pulled Jack and Rambo into central midfield and put Nicky B on I thought he was going to go 4-4-2 for the last few minutes, with Ozil and Gnabry on the wings. Instead he stuck with the same formation and put Bendtner wide left!!

[SteveO 35]

Still absolutely, 100% against.

I mean no disrespect, but any Gooner that actually thinks we're winning anything, for as long as that tactically inept looney is in charge, might need to consider getting their head examined.

To be a top team, and to be considered proper title contenders, a manager is needed who can switch up things when we find ourselves at a disadvantage.....be it a change in formation, an unplanned substitution, shifting around players.... somefuckingthing that can haul our arses back into a game. Wenger has proven time and time again that he's clueless whenever a little calling for some tactical nous is sounded. It's just the same pass it to death 5 fucking yards lateral and back. How many times did we find ourselves labouring into the final 3rd only to see the ball find its way back to ur CBs and goalie.

We have no wide player who's willing, or even able it might seem, to bomb down the wing and put a proper cross in. Always the same narrow shit where we try, inexplicably, to slothfully walk it through a packed midfield and into the back of the opponent's net. Our FBs and wide midfielders are always looking to cut into the middle once they get past the half line. On the rare occasionwhen we send a cross into the box, hardly is there ever an attacker to latch onto the ball.

Our football will work against pub teams who come for a game, but the predictable, pedestrian tiki taka won't work against proper teams that know how to sit deep whilst we try to start another laboured attack. We need to learn how to mix it up, when to play triangles as opposed to when to play it long for a runner (shockingly lacking) to latch on to.

Final point is our no show in 1st halves. Is this a result of Wenger's own admission that he doesn't study the opposition prior to a game? Is it that he uses the 1st half to as a kind of containment stanza, trying to figure out the opposition's game plan/tactics/style of play and then at half time makes the requisite adjustments? I seriously hope this is just a far fetched idea being congealed in the gutters of my weird mind.

Exactly as I see it which is why I see no tangible improvement in what Wenger is doing now versus any of the past 8 seasons.....perhaps barring the defence which I would say in the last 12 months has come on considerably; completely and utterly down to the man alongside him that played a key role in one of the best defences ever to walk the planet

The reason why Wenger will always divide opinion is that we will continue to have impressive runs during a season, where the football on display is as good as anyone's and we'll score goals that are pleasing on the eye. We'll flirt with the top of the table, pick up some decent wins in the early rounds of the cups and Group stage of the Champions League....and then it will fall apart as soon as the expectation rises that it might turn into something tangible. In the must win six pointers against the top teams at the business end of the season he'll fail miserably as he always does when the tough getting going.

He is tactically rigid and has stood over a losing, 2nd best culture for so long now that I can't see the cycle ever ending

[Fever Pitch]

Still absolutely, 100% against.

I mean no disrespect, but any Gooner that actually thinks we're winning anything, for as long as that tactically inept looney is in charge, might need to consider getting their head examined.

To be a top team, and to be considered proper title contenders, a manager is needed who can switch up things when we find ourselves at a disadvantage.....be it a change in formation, an unplanned substitution, shifting around players.... somefuckingthing that can haul our arses back into a game. Wenger has proven time and time again that he's clueless whenever a little calling for some tactical nous is sounded. It's just the same pass it to death 5 fucking yards lateral and back. How many times did we find ourselves labouring into the final 3rd only to see the ball find its way back to ur CBs and goalie.

We have no wide player who's willing, or even able it might seem, to bomb down the wing and put a proper cross in. Always the same narrow shit where we try, inexplicably, to slothfully walk it through a packed midfield and into the back of the opponent's net. Our FBs and wide midfielders are always looking to cut into the middle once they get past the half line. On the rare occasionwhen we send a cross into the box, hardly is there ever an attacker to latch onto the ball.

Our football will work against pub teams who come for a game, but the predictable, pedestrian tiki taka won't work against proper teams that know how to sit deep whilst we try to start another laboured attack. We need to learn how to mix it up, when to play triangles as opposed to when to play it long for a runner (shockingly lacking) to latch on to.

Final point is our no show in 1st halves. Is this a result of Wenger's own admission that he doesn't study the opposition prior to a game? Is it that he uses the 1st half to as a kind of containment stanza, trying to figure out the opposition's game plan/tactics/style of play and then at half time makes the requisite adjustments? I seriously hope this is just a far fetched idea being congealed in the gutters of my weird mind.

Exactly as I see it which is why I see no tangible improvement in what Wenger is doing now versus any of the past 8 seasons.....perhaps barring the defence which I would say in the last 12 months has come on considerably; completely and utterly down to the man alongside him that played a key role in one of the best defences ever to walk the planet

The reason why Wenger will always divide opinion is that we will continue to have impressive runs during a season, where the football on display is as good as anyone's and we'll score goals that are pleasing on the eye. We'll flirt with the top of the table, pick up some decent wins in the early rounds of the cups and Group stage of the Champions League....and then it will fall apart as soon as the expectation rises that it might turn into something tangible. In the must win six pointers against the top teams at the business end of the season he'll fail miserably as he always does when the tough getting going.

He is tactically rigid and has stood over a losing, 2nd best culture for so long now that I can't see the cycle ever ending

Wenger has not outperformed but generated what should be a minimum expectation for so long, we've all forgotten that what it is like to have a genuine expectation of winning something !

At least every game is one more step towards Wenger 's departure..

[Chippy]

Is it that he uses the 1st half to as a kind of containment stanza, trying to figure out the opposition's game plan/tactics/style of play and then at half time makes the requisite adjustments? I seriously hope this is just a far fetched idea being congealed in the gutters of my weird mind.

I hope these aren't autocorrects cos this is quite lyrical. Almost like Kerouac.

[DB10GOONER]

Is it that he uses the 1st half to as a kind of containment stanza, trying to figure out the opposition's game plan/tactics/style of play and then at half time makes the requisite adjustments? I seriously hope this is just a far fetched idea being congealed in the gutters of my weird mind.

I hope these aren't autocorrects cos this is quite lyrical. Almost like Kerouac.

Nice to see someone is still using google.

[I Hate Hleb]

Kerouac? Didn't he used to play for Olympiacos?

[OneBardGooner]

No mate that was Krakatoa - a mountain of a man.

[Chippy]

Is it that he uses the 1st half to as a kind of containment stanza, trying to figure out the opposition's game plan/tactics/style of play and then at half time makes the requisite adjustments? I seriously hope this is just a far fetched idea being congealed in the gutters of my weird mind.

I hope these aren't autocorrects cos this is quite lyrical. Almost like Kerouac.

Nice to see someone is still using google.

I actually read the book! Modern classic. However it made as much sense to me as "congealed in the gutters of my weird mind." Forced myself to finish it but it won't be on the re-read list. Now Harry Potter...

[northbank123]

1. Reach his own targets
2. Prove critics wrong
3. Be the best

I think those are Wenger's priorities for 'achieving' with Arsenal in order. Of course he'd like to be at the top but he certainly doesn't strike me as a bloke who comes into work every day and is driven by an incessant need to be number 1, and he seems more than content with ticking the first two boxes with a top 4 finish after a patchy run earlier in the season. Of course he'll pay lip service to the third by talking about trophies and kicking on but come next season he'll be smug come May when we scrape the VT again having convinced himself that it's unrealistic for anybody to expect us to be able to compete with moneybags clubs.

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER.......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[DB10GOONER]

ONE ARSENE WENGER.......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

That's easy for you to say. Literally.

[I Hate Hleb]

ONE ARSENE WENGER.......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

That's easy for you to say. Literally.

Which itself isn't that easy to say - even if you're not chinese!!

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER.......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

That's easy for you to say. Literally.

I'll be having it sung all around me on Saturday so if you can't beat 'em

[rodders999]

Mid November rolling into December, contract up in May and not a sniff of him signing an extension. Maybe Christmas round Rodders Manor won't result in me turning on the gas and sticking my head in the oven door after all

[SteveO 35]

Mid November rolling into December, contract up in May and not a sniff of him signing an extension. Maybe Christmas round Rodders Manor won't result in me turning on the gas and sticking my head in the oven door after all

Can you honestly imagine Wiggy not offering his little money making machine a new deal at some point between now and the season end?

I must admit though if Christmas has passed without so much as another mention I might have to cancel the second lorry load of burgers

The Away Boyz will be gutted too.....they've been looking forward to the gig