As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
There is a big difference between saying someone is over-rated or hasn't fulfilled their potential thus far, and calling the same person Wellshite!! Seems wumming or childish name-calling is the way to go nowadays to get attention on this forum.
And Lampard at his age was twice the player and more that Wellshite is now and ever will be.
I would suggest you look into that statement properly. Lampard at 22 was not the player he became. All the taunting New Yorkers after September 11th and the general idiocy he was displaying was a lot worse than Wilshere. He then went to Chelsea and knuckled down and went on to become brilliant. But it was certainly a learning curve for him. He only really started to kick on at 24.
He was a chav player when 9/11 took place. And I'm not comparing their off field antics but their on field ones, where even at W ham it was vastly superior to Wellshite.
Lampard 148 app 24 goals by the time he was 23
Wellshite 85 app 4 goals now aged 22
So he needs to have one hell of a season for your statement to stand up.
Yeah and west ham supporters said lampard was sit too, I have spammer mates who I would argue with and say he was talented but he was their own player and were convinced he was shit.
All perspectives I guess but I know Wilshere has a lot of talent but needs to knuckle down and simplify his game, he did score quite easily our best goal last season and for me better than "that" goal by bergkamp, perspectives.
I Hate Hleb wrote:There is a big difference between saying someone is over-rated or hasn't fulfilled their potential thus far, and calling the same person Wellshite!! Seems wumming or childish name-calling is the way to go nowadays to get attention on this forum.
And Lampard at his age was twice the player and more that Wellshite is now and ever will be.
I would suggest you look into that statement properly. Lampard at 22 was not the player he became. All the taunting New Yorkers after September 11th and the general idiocy he was displaying was a lot worse than Wilshere. He then went to Chelsea and knuckled down and went on to become brilliant. But it was certainly a learning curve for him. He only really started to kick on at 24.
He was a chav player when 9/11 took place. And I'm not comparing their off field antics but their on field ones, where even at W ham it was vastly superior to Wellshite.
Lampard 148 app 24 goals by the time he was 23
Wellshite 85 app 4 goals now aged 22
So he needs to have one hell of a season for your statement to stand up.
Yeah and west ham supporters said lampard was sit too, I have spammer mates who I would argue with and say he was talented but he was their own player and were convinced he was shit.
All perspectives I guess but I know Wilshere has a lot of talent but needs to knuckle down and simplify his game, he did score quite easily our best goal last season and for me better than "that" goal by bergkamp, perspectives.
And Lampard at his age was twice the player and more that Wellshite is now and ever will be.
I would suggest you look into that statement properly. Lampard at 22 was not the player he became. All the taunting New Yorkers after September 11th and the general idiocy he was displaying was a lot worse than Wilshere. He then went to Chelsea and knuckled down and went on to become brilliant. But it was certainly a learning curve for him. He only really started to kick on at 24.
He was a chav player when 9/11 took place. And I'm not comparing their off field antics but their on field ones, where even at W ham it was vastly superior to Wellshite.
Lampard 148 app 24 goals by the time he was 23
Wellshite 85 app 4 goals now aged 22
So he needs to have one hell of a season for your statement to stand up.
Yeah and west ham supporters said lampard was sit too, I have spammer mates who I would argue with and say he was talented but he was their own player and were convinced he was shit.
All perspectives I guess but I know Wilshere has a lot of talent but needs to knuckle down and simplify his game, he did score quite easily our best goal last season and for me better than "that" goal by bergkamp, perspectives.
You Ubercunt.
But we both know you are wrong.
Well it seems to be a week of Ubercunting, so thought I'd join em
The guy showed promise at the start buit he has started acting (as Big tone would say) like 'Charlie Big Potatoes'
Unfortunately he reminds me of David Bently. A bit too full of himself and his apparent greatness.(not quite such a knob though but showing signs he may be).
This season should tell us a lot but in my opinion its a media creation. If he wasn't English no one would give him a second glance.
He's a sensational talent and one of us. Let's get behind him and stop slagging him off.
There you go again exagerating everything 1989 - wilshere has big potential but is far from sensational talent as that comment should only apply to the worlds elite players and he is nowhere near that level. I like the guy and really want him to succeed but I honestly think that he is done with us - injuries hampered him at a vital time and now he isnt even a starter with us so his development will be held back even more to the point that he is a squad player that will be sold off within two years Really, really hope I'm wrong though
I stand by my comment that he's a sensational talent, not sensational player as you seem to suggest.
He still has a long way to go but has time on his hands as he's only 22. He's the best talent to have come out of our youth system arguably and he's worth the patience.
After the way Ramsey turned his career around you'd think people would've learned that young players need time and patience.
Maureen is going to see the same problem this year by building the chav team around Cesc - Deco could do it in Spain for him, but Cesc isn't going to be given time or space and like Jack can't hold his own.
Don't know why you say that: when Cesc was with us, he was unplayable at times and arguably the best CM in the league - he's never had a problem with the intensity/physicality of the PL.
We didn't win anything with Cesc, and he was protected by Edu and the Gilberto.
I think he could/can do the Caz /Ozil job as a playmaker but thats not where the chavs are playing him. Their left side looks very vulnerable - Hazard, who doesn't track back and Cesc who is lightweight. the chavs will have the same problem we do with playing both Caz and Ozil when they play both Cesc and Oscar - very prone to being hit on the break and an exposed left back.
its nothing against Cesc. I just believe he should play higher up the pitch.
Maureen is going to see the same problem this year by building the chav team around Cesc - Deco could do it in Spain for him, but Cesc isn't going to be given time or space and like Jack can't hold his own.
Don't know why you say that: when Cesc was with us, he was unplayable at times and arguably the best CM in the league - he's never had a problem with the intensity/physicality of the PL.
We didn't win anything with Cesc, and he was protected by Edu and the Gilberto.
I think he could/can do the Caz /Ozil job as a playmaker but thats not where the chavs are playing him. Their left side looks very vulnerable - Hazard, who doesn't track back and Cesc who is lightweight. the chavs will have the same problem we do with playing both Caz and Ozil when they play both Cesc and Oscar - very prone to being hit on the break and an exposed left back.
its nothing against Cesc. I just believe he should play higher up the pitch.
Hardly. Fabregas and Edu played in the same team for one season. Gilberto left in 2008 and to be honest was a bit-part player and a shadow of his former self in 2007/08. Fabregas' level of performance during those years was brilliant for his age but (sadly) his Arsenal legacy will be carrying what was an otherwise average side from 2008 until early 2011, before van Judas picked up the reigns. He was consistently quality, during those two and a half seasons who else stood up for us? Yet we still stayed within touching distance of the top, mainly down to Fabregas.
When people double post why do they feel the need to then tell us they doubled posted, when we can see they double posted cos they have posted the same thing twice.