As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Vinny1967 wrote:............it and may lead to the club not getting market value for him.
I hope we get sweet nothing.......Fuck all........... Losing our captain last year could have been said to be unfortunate but losing another the following year is not only careless but criminal.Who's fault is that that's the question we should be asking.Its certainly not RvP's cause he should never had run into the last 2 years of his contract. Fingers must firmly be pointed at the board.
Yeah I don't understand that position mate.
2 years left on his contract and we have a guy who for the precious six years have missed at least half of every season thru injury. I think people would have slated the board for giving him another contract to be honest.
I also wonder how easy it is to actually get someone to sign a contract. How is that done, do they actually tie the guy down and torture him ?
Personally I think it's very easy for people to slate Wenger and the board for this when the reality is there is so many different motivations at work we actually don't know the story or even of it was anyone's fault.
LDB wrote:Yes we lack ambition etc etc, I agree with all that but as far as I'm concerned we stood by this guy when he could barely string 3 games together over a seven year period and this is how he repays us? He can drop all the patronising shite about loving the fans too, that winds me right up.
Now its time to make sure Wenger follows him out the door.
You're right in this respect because when we needed him when Cesc was still here and we still a good outfit, he was injured, always injured, one season and he is off.
But when you take RVP out the picture, why would any player who desires success and trophies want to play for Arsenal.
Might have made the difference in 2008 when Adebayor stopped scoring.
swimmer1 wrote:Can't beleive most people think Rvp is doing the right thing club captain announcing things on his website class act did not see cesc Henry or veira doing that at least they showed a bit of class
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I actually find it insulting to the club to be honest.
As for his statement. I have read all the comments posted since and am slightly taken back at people's view that this is his actual reason for 'leaving' i.e. He is leaving because of a difference in vision for the club.
He is hardly going to issue a statement stating that he would prefer to earn 200k a week sitting on a bench in Manchester is he ?
Would also be worried about what this does for Walcott as well as I would like him to stay and fulfill the undoubted potential he has.
The signings of Giroud and Pod are good but we know also need a top class striker to add to our squad.
Thanks for the memories RVP, you could have shown a bit more class than reporting in this way, NEXT.
Such as how?
A TV interview?
Would that be any different.
I think his statement is fascinating and far franker than what others have done, more respectful than Nasri's.
A joint Statement Quartz.
I just find it disrespectful that the club was not aware of this statement and I felt he owed us that.
Am not in any way saying that the statement is not interesting but there are still questions to be answered because of it and may lead to the club not getting market value for him.
Fuck the club! The way I see it is that he's voicing the same concerns the fans have (well some of us anyway). No way would the club have agreed to release a joint statement saying the sort of things Van Persie has said on his official site. Just my opinion but I'd rather a player told us straight what was going on rather than just fucking off after months of speculation. We deserve a proper explanation and although the club will never give us one, Van Persie has confirmed what we suspected all along regarding Wenger, Kroenke, Gazidis and their lack of ambition.
Vinny1967 wrote:Yeah I don't understand that position mate.
No you wouldn't until you put your thinking cap on.
Vinny1967 wrote:2 years left on his contract and we have a guy who for the precious six years have missed at least half of every season thru injury. I think people would have slated the board for giving him another contract to be honest.
I also wonder how easy it is to actually get someone to sign a contract. How is that done, do they actually tie the guy down and torture him ?
I take that when you mention RvP's injury record, you're suggesting that he didn't have a long term future until this season gone! That's nowhere near true. Arsene made him captain cause he believed he had a future at the club & that's the time he should have pushed for a new contract.
Vinny1967 wrote:Personally I think it's very easy for people to slate Wenger and the board for this when the reality is there is so many different motivations at work we actually don't know the story or even of it was anyone's fault.
Flamini, Nasri, Cesc and now RvP.....whom are we supposed to blame? They get paid to do this fucking job so abviously must carry the can for all the fuck ups.
swimmer1 wrote:Can't beleive most people think Rvp is doing the right thing club captain announcing things on his website class act did not see cesc Henry or veira doing that at least they showed a bit of class
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I actually find it insulting to the club to be honest.
As for his statement. I have read all the comments posted since and am slightly taken back at people's view that this is his actual reason for 'leaving' i.e. He is leaving because of a difference in vision for the club.
He is hardly going to issue a statement stating that he would prefer to earn 200k a week sitting on a bench in Manchester is he ?
Would also be worried about what this does for Walcott as well as I would like him to stay and fulfill the undoubted potential he has.
The signings of Giroud and Pod are good but we know also need a top class striker to add to our squad.
Thanks for the memories RVP, you could have shown a bit more class than reporting in this way, NEXT.
Such as how?
A TV interview?
Would that be any different.
I think his statement is fascinating and far franker than what others have done, more respectful than Nasri's.
A joint Statement Quartz.
I just find it disrespectful that the club was not aware of this statement and I felt he owed us that.
Am not in any way saying that the statement is not interesting but there are still questions to be answered because of it and may lead to the club not getting market value for him.
I do not know for sure, but I reckon the club guessed he would be going after the stalemate coffee morning at Chez Wenger so forked out for Giroud.
Podolski was a bit different, I think he was meant to be Arshavin's replacement.
As for RvP's market value, that is where Gazidis has to earn his salary and play hardball.
But as others have said, why let RvP get down to one year on the contract?
That is fine for someone such as Yennaris or even Coquelin who has to prove their worth, but proven quality players should have contract extensions when the club has the upper hand, not when there is a year left and the player has the leverage advantage.
Every regime has a moment when the foundations start shaking so badly that the cracks can no longer be hidden. For Wenger and the board; it was today. Everything that RVP said is spot on and shows the world how the better players at the club must feel. Their stupid fucking policies, their blind, bury-your-head-in-the-sand idiocy, their pathetic attempts to mug the fans off year after year, the lies, the lunacy, the arrogance and the sheer fucking buffonery of pursuing a 'project' that is doomed for all to see have been shown up not by some young, hot-headed new boy but by their Captain. Arsenal's captain, the best player and the only world class talent at the club has turned round and told Wenger, Gazidis and all the other mugs on the boars that he has no trust in them now and in the future.
Robin, good luck mate. World-class players should win medals and trophies. At our place, you won't.
As for you Wenger, just go. Go now and spare us all the pain of your pathetic, rambling excuses. There's a France job going, it doesn't involve transfers or contracts. You might like it.
Perryashburtongroves wrote:Every regime has a moment when the foundations start shaking so badly that the cracks can no longer be hidden. For Wenger and the board; it was today. Everything that RVP said is spot on and shows the world how the better players at the club must feel. Their stupid fucking policies, their blind, bury-your-head-in-the-sand idiocy, their pathetic attempts to mug the fans off year after year, the lies, the lunacy, the arrogance and the sheer fucking buffonery of pursuing a 'project' that is doomed for all to see have been shown up not by some young, hot-headed new boy but by their Captain. Arsenal's captain, the best player and the only world class talent at the club has turned round and told Wenger, Gazidis and all the other mugs on the boars that he has no trust in them now and in the future.
Robin, good luck mate. World-class players should win medals and trophies. At our place, you won't.
As for you Wenger, just go. Go now and spare us all the pain of your pathetic, rambling excuses. There's a France job going, it doesn't involve transfers or contracts. You might like it.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel too, bravo sir.
Re-signing existing players is our speciality so why have RVP, Nasri, Walcott, Flamini been allowed to run down their contracts . The people who are running our club are inept. Wenger cannot sell his dream even to those that obviously respect him. Where is that banner???? Can we have another one about Gazidis and Kroenke? I'll supply the flip flops.
1989 wrote:Fuck RVP, fuck Wenger and fuck Gazidis. Fuck em all.
When the plastic office boys give me the predictable grief tomorrow (thinking I actually give a shit) then I will respond with the above adding Fuck Arsenal too.
I really dont give a toss about any of it anymore and don't even care when the season starts.
Re-signing existing players is our speciality so why have RVP, Nasri, Walcott, Flamini been allowed to run down their contracts . The people who are running our club are inept. Wenger cannot sell his dream even to those that obviously respect him. Where is that banner???? Can we have another one about Gazidis and Kroenke? I'll supply the flip flops.
Unfortunately CC, most Gooners will still turn up in their droves and sing the praises of the boss. The same boss who has overseen the players you mention run down their contracts and show us up to be a club run by incompetent fools who would be laughed out of the door by such bastions of corporate governance as RBS & Barclays.
. The people who are running our club are inept. Wenger cannot sell his dream even to those that obviously respect him. Where is that banner???? Can we have another one about Gazidis and Kroenke? I'll supply the flip flops.
