THE WENGER THREAD

[SteveO 35]

Going to this one now........in my favourite block as well

FEO.......FEO

Hope you find your seat easier to find seeing as you cant find the right thread to post in.

Old age might be coming

Unlike Diego Costa

[markyp]

the situation at Spuds has kind of made me think a little today and made me realise we are stuck between a rock and a hard place,if wenker finally walks at the end of this season(some hope) it will start of with street parties and maybe SteveO will have a bbq,there will be tales of how we will surely win everything under our new manager(whoever he is) and that thank god that old cretinous Dinosaur has finally left,however six months down the line when we our languishing mid table we may well be wishing wenker was still our boss.lets face it we are never that bad that we are never in the mix(until feb at least) and for Wenkers lack of tactical nous we always somehow manage to finish in the top four,i know with our resources this is shoite but all the pre season hype from our neighbours over on glory glory and tales of them going to be invincibles and how Levy is a genius all of a sudden with hindsight is farking hilarious ,id hate it if we became worse without le Arsole and in a right pickle with a revolving door of managers for the wrong reasons.with spuds losing monkey boy this summer I think it gives wenker even more credit as spuds lose 1 top player and they are shoite yet we have lost superstar after superstar for the past 8 years yet have still kept our CL place,again I know his is not good enough but does go to show that Arsole know a little about footy.i too want him gone but lets pray that when it happens we move forward and don't go into a negative spiral(did you see what I did there!!)

[BFG4]

the situation at Spuds has kind of made me think a little today and made me realise we are stuck between a rock and a hard place,if wenker finally walks at the end of this season(some hope) it will start of with street parties and maybe SteveO will have a bbq,there will be tales of how we will surely win everything under our new manager(whoever he is) and that thank god that old cretinous Dinosaur has finally left,however six months down the line when we our languishing mid table we may well be wishing wenker was still our boss.lets face it we are never that bad that we are never in the mix(until feb at least) and for Wenkers lack of tactical nous we always somehow manage to finish in the top four,i know with our resources this is shoite but all the pre season hype from our neighbours over on glory glory and tales of them going to be invincibles and how Levy is a genius all of a sudden with hindsight is farking hilarious ,id hate it if we became worse without le Arsole and in a right pickle with a revolving door of managers for the wrong reasons.with spuds losing monkey boy this summer I think it gives wenker even more credit as spuds lose 1 top player and they are shoite yet we have lost superstar after superstar for the past 8 years yet have still kept our CL place,again I know his is not good enough but does go to show that Arsole know a little about footy.i too want him gone but lets pray that when it happens we move forward and don't go into a negative spiral(did you see what I did there!!)

I can see where your coming from, but nearly every top European club, changes their manager regularly. Only Arsenal have created this ridiculous idea that the manager is perfect, and unsackable. Also, as for your point about languishing in mid-table, surely one or two bad seasons is worth it, if we eventually become successful again, rather than having a manager who only sees top four as success.

[augie]

the situation at Spuds has kind of made me think a little today and made me realise we are stuck between a rock and a hard place,if wenker finally walks at the end of this season(some hope) it will start of with street parties and maybe SteveO will have a bbq,there will be tales of how we will surely win everything under our new manager(whoever he is) and that thank god that old cretinous Dinosaur has finally left,however six months down the line when we our languishing mid table we may well be wishing wenker was still our boss.lets face it we are never that bad that we are never in the mix(until feb at least) and for Wenkers lack of tactical nous we always somehow manage to finish in the top four,i know with our resources this is shoite but all the pre season hype from our neighbours over on glory glory and tales of them going to be invincibles and how Levy is a genius all of a sudden with hindsight is farking hilarious ,id hate it if we became worse without le Arsole and in a right pickle with a revolving door of managers for the wrong reasons.with spuds losing monkey boy this summer I think it gives wenker even more credit as spuds lose 1 top player and they are shoite yet we have lost superstar after superstar for the past 8 years yet have still kept our CL place,again I know his is not good enough but does go to show that Arsole know a little about footy.i too want him gone but lets pray that when it happens we move forward and don't go into a negative spiral(did you see what I did there!!)

If a club employs a new manager then they have to give that manager at least 2 years to show that they have the club going in the right direction and that is especially true in our case. Personally I would be ok with a mid table finish for 1 or 2 seasons if the manager was dispensing of the shite and average players in the squad and if he started employing a formation suitable to the players at his disposable so that we no longer have to see talents like wilshere, ramsey and podolski marooned out on the wings I would also expect a new manager to be able to motivate his players for all matches - yes the team will have days that they dont perform well, but it is an absolute disgrace when even the manager has to admit post match that his team were not up for the game (as wenger has had to do on numerous occasions in the past few seasons ).
Another absolute must for me is that a new manager has to instill a winners mentality into the players - that doesnt mean that they will necessarily win trophies but that they will always strive to win them and never be satisfied aiming for 4th place

If a new manager starts implimenting those policies but we find that results are very inconsistant along the way, then I dont think that we should panic - this club has been ambling along in recent seasons and we need somebody new to come in and instill some fight and ambition into the club again

[DB10GOONER]

the situation at Spuds has kind of made me think a little today and made me realise we are stuck between a rock and a hard place,if wenker finally walks at the end of this season(some hope) it will start of with street parties and maybe SteveO will have a bbq,there will be tales of how we will surely win everything under our new manager(whoever he is) and that thank god that old cretinous Dinosaur has finally left,however six months down the line when we our languishing mid table we may well be wishing wenker was still our boss.lets face it we are never that bad that we are never in the mix(until feb at least) and for Wenkers lack of tactical nous we always somehow manage to finish in the top four,i know with our resources this is shoite but all the pre season hype from our neighbours over on glory glory and tales of them going to be invincibles and how Levy is a genius all of a sudden with hindsight is farking hilarious ,id hate it if we became worse without le Arsole and in a right pickle with a revolving door of managers for the wrong reasons.with spuds losing monkey boy this summer I think it gives wenker even more credit as spuds lose 1 top player and they are shoite yet we have lost superstar after superstar for the past 8 years yet have still kept our CL place,again I know his is not good enough but does go to show that Arsole know a little about footy.i too want him gone but lets pray that when it happens we move forward and don't go into a negative spiral(did you see what I did there!!)

And who exactly will be saying that? No one with even half a brain's knowledge of football would expect a new manager to come in and win everything.

Also, I remember a time when finishing 4th was just above finishing mid table and was considered by most people as worth about the same. 1st place got you a trophy and a tilt at the European Cup. 2nd place a shot at the UEFA cup. That was it as far as the league went. You finished outside the top 2 you were more or less considered "mid table". Now with this bloated shite CL, teams finishing 4th are selling higher priced tickets to their fans on the basis of that being "like winning a trophy". Absolute shite.

Arsene Wenger post 2006 has delivered the sum total of fuck all beyond what I consider mid table tbh. I love and respect the man for what he did for us 1997-2006 but he has got to go and we have got to give a new man with new ideas (and a grasp of tactics that isn't dictated by his ego) a shot and we have to give him at least 2 seasons to see if he is the right man.

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER.....THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[Humoresque]

arsene wenger is the FOURTH highest paid manager in the WORLD!

http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/70514325 ... all-in-eur



Pep Guardiola
Jose Mourino
Marcelo Lippi
4th place is a trophy


maybe that's what he's been talking about all these years!!!!!!

THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[SteveO 35]

Nice upload from this season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2iS1O694XA

[Sam59]

arsene wenger is the FOURTH highest paid manager in the WORLD!

http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/70514325 ... all-in-eur



Pep Guardiola
Jose Mourino
Marcelo Lippi
4th place is a trophy


maybe that's what he's been talking about all these years!!!!!!

THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

Assuming this is right, 'Arry earns way more than Vicente del Bosque
Wenger is extremely wealthy; he also coached at tax free Monaco....can't see him fancying paying top rate French tax if he moved to PSG. Would have to join Depardieu in Belgium

[SteveO 35]

1-0 up against Everton and it was all this.......



Lose to Chelsea and it will be all this.......



And I will be reminding people of this......



and this.......

[SteveO 35]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... away-goals

If at first you don't succeed, then try bending the rules until you do

Get on with it you useless tool - its not UEFA's fault teams come to the bowl and rip us to shreds like Bayern did

[rodders999]

All quiet on the contract front. How many days until May??

[augie]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... away-goals

If at first you don't succeed, then try bending the rules until you do

Get on with it you useless tool - its not UEFA's fault teams come to the bowl and rip us to shreds like Bayern did

I don't understand his logic - yes I understand his selfish anything to help me motives, but what difference does it make that games are on tv nowadays ? Bayern came and gave us a lesson at the grove last season and he should accept the fact that they got rewarded on the back of it Anyway if the rule changed then the whole thing could have played out differently......Bayern might not have gone for our jugular at the grove, would not in turn had their comfortable lead for the 2nd leg and would then be less likely to go into snooze mode so our chances of winning out there would be considerably reduced. Of course if we were still very much in the tie going into the 2nd leg, then our tactical genius ( ) would probably have sat back and tried to play defensive/counter attacking football and we all know how that usually works out

[armchair]

What exactly did Piers Morgan say?

I know in the past hes been one of Wengers biggest critics, and any of the opinions he had on Wenger were pretty much on the money imo.

So I take it he has changed his views on Wenger? I dont do twatter so maybe someone could post a link to his "turncoat" comments pls........

[kiwomya]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... away-goals

If at first you don't succeed, then try bending the rules until you do

Get on with it you useless tool - its not UEFA's fault teams come to the bowl and rip us to shreds like Bayern did

I don't understand his logic - yes I understand his selfish anything to help me motives, but what difference does it make that games are on tv nowadays ? Bayern came and gave us a lesson at the grove last season and he should accept the fact that they got rewarded on the back of it Anyway if the rule changed then the whole thing could have played out differently......Bayern might not have gone for our jugular at the grove, would not in turn had their comfortable lead for the 2nd leg and would then be less likely to go into snooze mode so our chances of winning out there would be considerably reduced. Of course if we were still very much in the tie going into the 2nd leg, then our tactical genius ( ) would probably have sat back and tried to play defensive/counter attacking football and we all know how that usually works out

The point about TV relates to how exciting Uefa want the game to be for those at home. The away goals rule pretty much makes each leg of the knock outs attack attack attack.

I've always thought a draw was a draw and should end with ET and pens.