THE BOARD - Kroenke, Usmanov and Finance

[DB10GOONER]

Another #Arsenal share purchased late this afternoon for £16,750. Makes 83 shares bought /sold since 1st August


From some bloke on twitter

Not having a pop at you McD but fucking hell, this is what Wenger/P.Diddy/Kronk/Jabba etc have done to Arsenal. A Gooner forum with shares being discussed...

[mcdowell42]

Another #Arsenal share purchased late this afternoon for £16,750. Makes 83 shares bought /sold since 1st August


From some bloke on twitter

Not having a pop at you McD but fucking hell, this is what Wenger/P.Diddy/Kronk/Jabba etc have done to Arsenal. A Gooner forum with shares being discussed...

What can i say but my usual rumours stuff from twitter has all dried up now,its like the lights have gone out now that the good folk on twitter now know that there is an imposter on here with a new rumours thread,so SHARES are all i have

[Top Londoner]

Even 'celebrity' Gooner Piers Morgan reckons that the self harmer should go now.

[skipper]

Even 'celebrity' Gooner Piers Morgan reckons that the self harmer should go now.

For once he did talk a lot of sense...

[Top Londoner]

Even 'celebrity' Gooner Piers Morgan reckons that the self harmer should go now.

For once he did talk a lot of sense...

Agreed skipper. It's like he has been a voyeur at OG, almost verbatim to most opinions expressed here. He should have gone further as they gave him plenty of time to expand on his opinions.

[georgeknows89]

JD and the boring usmanov man u fan crap - when will this shit from a silly story with no substance end-

RVP was an alleged rapist but that didn't stop you loving him for 8 years did it ?

He has never said he spent the 70's walking moscow high street wearing a JVC shirt but like many in europe he became addicted to football in the early 2000s and chose us as his team - is that a fukin crime then also ?

He is a Gooner, fact,went to Montpellier game and going to Olympiakos- I bet you aint mr JD ?

All the shares being bought are on behalf of Usmanov and he is under 60 shares from 30 %- won't mean a lot but it is still a significant and important target to achieve and will result in a few rumbles on certain issues happening, i can promise you.

I have been saying since i posted this thread in May , when will fans start to believe that he has the best interests of AFC at heart and besides the 200m he spent on shares he owns boxes, diamond club and club level seats that he pays for every year.

Kroenke has bought none and when he rides in on his Walton Walmart pony twice a year he never spends a penny

[highburyJD]

If Usmanov wanted to buy Falcao because he loved Arsenal nothing need stop him
the ManUre supporting, convicted criminal and alleged rapist just wants a toy or an investment

You were so offended by people on here accusing Wenger of (moral) fraud, yet you don't mind repeating accusations like this?

you are seriously equating a football manager to Usmanov...?
I've been down this path before: our libel laws are a joke
Jabba uses his attack dog lawyers to threaten the hosting companies of anyone who blogs about him
he will never actually sue because whoever he does will be able tell the truth about him in court
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/ ... r_usmanov/

I trust Craig Murray, our establishment tried to discredit him because he went off message about our 'key ally' against terrorism - Uzbekistan, one of the most corrupt countries ever. The fact him cheating on his wife is held up as a reason to discredit his political views is ridiculous.

vanStaplecunt is scum - but he def hasnt raped the wealth of his own nation
my political view is that the oligarchs are all crooks who stole the sovereign wealth of their nation
amongst that nefarious group it seems Jabba has managed to land the worst of the worst title

I've spoken to Uzbeks, experts on central Asia, foreign policy and organised crime about Usmanov
there's no doubt in my mind about that part of his story - I have to admit the ManUre fan bit is more tenuous

apologies - I'll qualify my statement.
After researching him, I personally believe Usmanov attained his wealth through being a gangster
there is an unsubstantiated rumour he used to support ManUre, this I did not research

[highburyJD]

He is a Gooner, fact,went to Montpellier game and going to Olympiakos- I bet you aint mr JD

you're wrong in that I did go to the Montpellier game (didn't see Jabba in our end),
I also went to Schalke (was mocked on here for being a little over-excited about it)
I've been to Athens 3 times to see the Arsenal - can't go this time due to work commitments

[the playing mantis]

oh what a surprise polly trusts craigmurray...one of the most cretinous, adulterous, left wing, handwringing dicks this country has ever produced who is a crook himself. (murray not polly)

shame we didnt have more of your and murrays sort back in the 1930's, not sure if we would be speaking german after your spineless surrender or russian by now after you rolled out the carpet for uncle joe.

you are a complete hypocrite and i am sorry for biting at your ridiculous unfounded anti usmanov agenda, which is solely down to your granita views

awaits official warning after you cry to the mods.

yawn

[highburyJD]

oh what a surprise polly trusts craigmurray...one of the most cretinous, adulterous, left wing, handwringing dicks this country has ever produced who is a crook himself. (murray not polly)

shame we didnt have more of your and murrays sort back in the 1930's, not sure if we would be speaking german after your spineless surrender or russian by now after you rolled out the carpet for uncle joe.

you are a complete hypocrite and i am sorry for biting at your ridiculous unfounded anti usmanov agenda, which is solely down to your granita views

awaits official warning after you cry to the mods.

yawn

- I loved Granita, a great restaurant
- I've never complained to a mod about any statement made about me (and I'd be gutted if this one was removed, it has genuine comic potential)
- who is polly?
- you've listed 6 pretty random Murray attacks. Cretinous/crook are the only ones that connect to the issue at hand.
We can safely strike adulterous (so), left wing (and?), handwringing (er...) and dick (well done) from the record as irrelevant whining.
Cretinous...? How? Not that easy getting an ambassadorship, admittedly some people manage to get promoted to their level of ineptitude but he's pretty erudite on telly and his books not badly written. Obviously he didn't read the political tealeaves that well or he'd still have the gig. I assume he'd portray losing it as a point of principal. I think cretinous is pretty harsh.
Crook...? Really? Never heard that before, read a fair chunk of Murray criticism. What do you mean?

In what way would my anti-Usmanov views have undermined the war effort in the 30's?
It's a pretty esoteric accusation,
would love to defend myself from it but simply don't know how...
you refer to my "spineless surrender" which surrender?
I honestly don't understand your point.
Incidentally I'm not a big fan of Stalinism (is anyone?)

which brings us back round to Granita, great restaurant, no specific connection to WWII or Usmanov...
run by a Jew and an Egyptian... med fusion cuisine... NewLabour mythmaking...
seriously I've got nothing here, please enlighten me

[highburyJD]

here's a Jabba story from todays (notoriously left leaning, spineless and... er Polly) edition of the Daily Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... -page.html

let's hope in doesn't cost us WWII, loose lips sink ships and all that...

[Arsenal Till I Die]

After reading some links regarding Usmanov (thank you JD) I'd like to highlight this

I’d like to end this article with a picture that speaks volumes about how true Arsenal fans (who actually go to the games) feel about Usmanov. They are most likely educated/ well informed people who understand how corrupted the “billionaire” world is, and don’t want Usmanov corrupting and soiling Arsenal FC.

http://justarsenal.com/arsenal-debate-t ... mind/14639

Well, first off let me point out that because a group of Arsenal fans support Usmanov's plan to take control of Arsenal does not make them ANY less of a fan than of one who doesn't. The comment isn't just idiotic it is rather childish to say. The blogger may as well come out and say ''if you don't support our view sod off and support Chelsea.'' Secondly, just because someone goes to games does not make them ''true'' Arsenal fans. Just because I don't have a season ticket does that make me any less of a fan? Just because I and probably many can only go to a handful of games a year does that make me any less of a fan? Does that also make our views on the club invalid? No! It doesn't.

Second of all, it may just be me but the ''educated/well informed people who understand how corrupted the billionaire world is'' line speaks volumes about the authors lack of reality. Football ownership is a billionaire's thing. Kroenke is a billionaire for starters, is he a beacon of shining light? Is any multi-millionaire/billionaire businessman/women honest and clean? No. Does it take someone who's been educated to understand that the rich are powerful and the poor are weak? No! Overall business is a dirty game and money is a whore, that isn't something new. Everyone wants more money and some will do what it takes to get it.

Usmanov is -as far as I'm aware- a very good business man and is a publicly declared Arsenal fan. If he gets control of the club then the businessman and the fan in him will/should provide to be beneficial for us as a club. Yes, like many of Arsenal fans, I have my doubts and concerns about Usmanov but my doubts and concerns of the current board's running of Arsenal FOOTBALL CLUB outweigh all.

I would like to make it clear that I do NOT condone any illegal action that Usmanov has done in the past and as as passionate and die hard supporter of Arsenal football club I wouldn't want anything to tarnish the reputation of the club but IF Usmanov takes control of Arsenal and he runs the club properly as a businessman and a fan then what is the problem?

I'm doing a BA in Business Management at university so I do tend to find the business side of things rather interesting and I do love to voice my opinion and debate properly with people on here and across the web regarding the Usmanov/Board situation but I won't even engage conversation with anyone who can't hold up a valid argument against my opinion or Usmanov as a person - i.e the blogger.

[northbank123]

For me it boils down to would we rather have a billionaire who would rather not see the club winning trophies (because it means too much money has been spent) or a billionaire with some ambition who might let us compete and get some pride back? Either way we've got a rich bastard in charge so figure we may as well get some benefit.

Regardless of what you think of his actions and his support for first Kroenke then Usmanov, David Dein took all the ambition and direction with him when he left the club.

[the playing mantis]

so what, the torygraph reports he changed his wiki page to remove offensive and unfounded stuff that murray alleged, so what? im sure if you had unproven allegations against u and were in the public eye and had a wiki page, you would want them removed too.

boo hoo what a shame hes so nasty for doing that.

i shouldnt have flown off the handle before. however its ridiculous to be so anti him based on a personal agenda and axe to grind by craig murray.

as long as hes not burning kittens or a mass murderer hes no worse than any other bilionaire football owner out there. i want what is right for arsenal. kroenke is completely wrong. usmanov is the only alternative and is 100% prefarable to wiggy in terms of geting the club back amongst the best.

as for tarnishing the repuatation of arsenal, oh come now, we are no longer a class act, the whole badge issue, the spanish shop etc show how classless we are. likewise im really sure fizman and kroenke are squeaky clean and have no skeletons in the closet.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

For me it boils down to would we rather have a billionaire who would rather not see the club winning trophies (because it means too much money has been spent) or a billionaire with some ambition who might let us compete and get some pride back? Either way we've got a rich bastard in charge so figure we may as well get some benefit.

Agreed. If Usmanov shows ambition for the club and can actually see that a successful business in football involves spending money to win (which makes money).

as long as hes not burning kittens or a mass murderer hes no worse than any other bilionaire football owner out there. i want what is right for arsenal. kroenke is completely wrong. usmanov is the only alternative and is 100% prefarable to wiggy in terms of geting the club back amongst the best.

My point exactly.