As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
armchair supporter wrote: In the words of a famous gooner* - "Arsene, Thanks for the memories, but its time to say goodbye" *Quote attributed to SWL - Arsenal history maker
That's putting it as well as anyone can ....
So where's the march/demo starting tomorrow?
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It was a group thing lads Frank B designed it so give him as much credit as me at least, he's also a damn sight better on air than me
northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
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northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
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Makes a lable you all one from now on?
Er, yes, please do.
I think I meant make a make a name and lable you with it from now on.
amazing how easy it is to get when you think about it.
northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
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Makes a lable you all one from now on?
Er, yes, please do.
I think I meant make a make a name and lable you with it from now on.
amazing how easy it is to get when you think about it.
northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
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Makes a lable you all one from now on?
Er, yes, please do.
Oh and forget me marmite man, you just consentrate on getting the banner up tomorrow.
northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
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Makes a lable you all one from now on?
Er, yes, please do.
I think I meant make a make a name and lable you with it from now on.
amazing how easy it is to get when you think about it.
Course!! Was just a bit pissed so didn't follow, easy mistake I'm such a limp wristed pretentious twat, that I've been making myself homemade Mojito's all night, lost a stupid bet and managed to lose my FIFA disc. What a *word censored* I am.
northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
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Makes a lable you all one from now on?
Er, yes, please do.
I think I meant make a make a name and lable you with it from now on.
amazing how easy it is to get when you think about it.
Course!! Was just a bit pissed so didn't follow, easy mistake I'm such a limp wristed pretentious twat, that I've been making myself homemade Mojito's all night, lost a stupid bet and managed to lose my FIFA disc. What a c**t I am.
are you serious? you lost a fifa disc? Fucking wanker slepp is gunna kill you!!!!
northbankbren wrote:Hope your all double bluffing beause if you bottle it, im gunna research a load of different bottle types and makes a lable you all one from now on. Can only think of plastic, beer and wine, oh whiskey and vodka too, or should their just be one for spirits.
:
Makes a lable you all one from now on?
Er, yes, please do.
I think I meant make a make a name and lable you with it from now on.
amazing how easy it is to get when you think about it.
Course!! Was just a bit pissed so didn't follow, easy mistake I'm such a limp wristed pretentious twat, that I've been making myself homemade Mojito's all night, lost a stupid bet and managed to lose my FIFA disc. What a c**t I am.
Just listened to Frank's radio interview (little late to the party I admit). Would add these thoughts:
"Once you're in the ground, you're in to support the team"
I think there's a big big difference between supporting the club and supporting the manager. The two should not be so intertwined to the point where you can't separate the two. "No player is bigger than the club"... well, I would also contend then that "no manager IS the club".
"Surely this could cause problems amongst your own"
Would argue there's already that division - the fact that the "Wenger out" side is becoming so vocal, frustrated, and roused to such dramatic action as massive banners should clearly demonstrate the growing discontent.
"It sounds to me like the club has no idea how divided the fans are"
I think they're wilfully ignorant. But if the seats are being sold, they don't really care too much beyond that do they? They've really come up with some brilliant scheme, when you think about it. The only way to send a message to the club is to not buy tickets, but if we don't buy tickets, "we're bad fans cuz we don't support the club" and our opinion shouldn't be counted. And of course, if you DO buy tickets, then go to those games to get your message through, your banner is confiscated if it's not in line with the club. What a cycle of shit.
Frankly, no pun intended, if a banner isn't morally offensive, it should be fair game. You can't, or at least shouldn't be able to, pick and choose what banners you want to display. What's next? "Oh I'm sorry, the club is negotiating a contract with this player so we currently cannot have signs regarding him."
Before you know it, the only banners allowed will have to be "Club Certified" and sold in their own Pro Shop. I think I just might have the next brilliant revenue scheme, I need go to talk to the marketing dept...
I think its harsh on SWL that he has to do it all on his own - putting his ST in jeopardy.
Don't know if this has been suggested but why not get someone who's not ST holder to accompany SWL and to take the flak from the club if there is any. I know he don't mind takin the flak from AKB's but its the possible flak from club that would be bustin my chops.
Peeman wrote:I think its harsh on SWL that he has to do it all on his own - putting his ST in jeopardy.
Don't know if this has been suggested but why not get someone who's not ST holder to accompany SWL and to take the flak from the club if there is any. I know he don't mind takin the flak from AKB's but its the possible flak from club that would be bustin my chops.
Morning all. First time poster who needs to get this off his chest.
I'm done, finished, I can stand no more of 'Arsenes Arsenal'.
I guess, if I'm honest, the end for me came when we lost to Birmingham in the Cup final. Since that day I've wanted to believe in him but in reality that was the day I lost all hope. Â
Even before that point though I'd always been slightly critical of the way we never retained titles-blaming it on Arsene tactics etc-and always felt under him we'd never win a european trophy. In those days though the 'trade off' was seeing us really compete donestically with some great players playing some genuinely great football. Since 2004 though each passing season has seen a little more of a decline, missed opportunities, and world-class players starting to leave in their prime.
Yet even up to that Birmingham game I always looked forward to Arsenal games and celebrated every goal like a loon! Since that Cup final though I've just not been the same. I don't get half as excited any more, the only goal I've really celebrated was Chamberlains the other night (he's going to be some player!) and sadly there's a very VERY small part of me that wants to see us concede and even lose games! Can you believe that? I feel terrible for even discussing it but I know its the ONLY way there's any chance that Arsene Wenger will leave the Club-which is now what I want more than anything. Because with him in charge there is no hope that we'll ever really compete or win trophies again. He's a poor man-manager, terrible at tactics, and will not admit he's ever wrong. I hate listening to him and everything he now says irritates the *%^@ out of me And the board can't escape criticism here by effectively giving him a job for life. Ridiculous-absolutely ridiculous.
As for the fans! What the hell is wrong with them? We're one of the biggest most famous clubs in world football yet even now some can't see how bad we've become. Its their fawning over Wenger and willingness to accept anything he or the Club does that's caused some of this. No other supporters of a big Club would accept this apart from us and it maddens and frustrates the life out of me. I mean just how bad does it have to get? 8-2, 4-3, 4-4....no problem, 'in Wenger we trust.....'
Their ambitions for this Club are simply pathetic yet sadly its their support the Club tends to hear most (witness the 'one Arsene Wenger' chants at recent games). Even the falling crowds are blamed on the economical difficulties surrounding the world rather than the fact we're just not that good any more.
The only way I'll start to enjoy Arsenal games again is if were to go on a fantastic run over twelve months culminating in a second place finish and a super run in the Champions league. I'd have to admit I was wrong and take the flak that comes my way. That wont happen though so I'll have to wait until Wenger AND/OR the board (hopefully both as they're all culpable to some extent) leave the Club. Get owners in who think about the football first and the finances second. And get a manager who does defending, does tactics, and doesn't make endless excuses for his own shortcomings.
So whilst I can't deny I feel a little uncomfortable abut this banner I totally understand and agree with the sentiments behind it. I also thought Frank Butcher spoke really well on the radio and made some great points the other day.
slepp is gunna kill you!!!! 
