Van Persie saga, officially not extending contract.

[franksav63]

absolutely pathetic of posters to say that rvp has acted without class and is in the wrong and claiming he is greedy. if we go with that argument any player leaving a smaller club to a club that contends for trophies is thus greedy and actually not ambitious to win medals, just greedy. all our signings from 'smaller' clubs are thus greedy, walcot, verm, arteta, sagna, all greedy. didnt move in the hope that there new club will have more of a chance of winning things, just moved cos of greed. hes coming towards the end of his career having won nothing, has seen the route the management are going to take as regards improving the side (or not as the case will be) and seen that it will be more of the same and not enough to compete and has thus taken the decesion to actually move to a club that could win something and thus give him something to show at the end of his career, im sure a better pay packet is a nice bonus on top of that, but he is moving for ambition as most thought before hand and he himself has now stated.

those questioning the timing of it...get with it, as if the club would have allowed him to issue a joint statement telling it like it is, they would have spun and spun and delayed and delayed, rvp has come out put his cards on the table and done whats in the best interests of the club (considering hes leaving) as they have a decent length of of time to sort it out and have no excuse for not doing so. i wish cesc and nas had said the exact same thing last year and it wouldnt have given the club any excuses.

likewise this bullshit about about rvp giving us one good season and people saying he owes us and that we moaned about giving him new deals cos of his injury record. the guys has given more than a season, get real, where is he on the scoring charts for us? bit more than a one season wonder, and when he was struggling with injury in seasons past,when actually fit he had shown what a fine talent he is. thats the difference. thats why he justified the club retaining him throughout the past 7 years as he has shown genuine class. diaby et al havent yet get new deals.

its funny how we always tie the shite, who have shown nothing, to long term contracts, but the actual players who show talent consistently leave with their contracts running down.

akbs have been crapping on about he will stay, now he has completely contradicted them and given the reasons anyone with half a brain can see for leaving, they will all come out with the classless un loyal arguement. makes me sick. good luck robin, glad you have finally said what needed to be said and that your move forces the club into action and benefits the greater good.

anyone who questions his decision, timing of the statement or content, are naive in the extreme and need to take there blinkers off.

Totally agree with this, great post, especially with the part in bold, I've always said this, these shit players, who are on between 50-70k a week, have been found out and now we can't even sell and have to loan out, the contract/wage situation at our club is a joke, we have players in the team, virtually guaranteed their place with no competition, sitting on long, fat contracts... it makes me sick.

[swimmer1]

swimmer, hes leaving so he wont be club captain. as a supporter of the club and not wenger, im delighted he has said what he has said and cannot see anyway in it disrespecting the club. the only people it disrespects are the senile manager and cretinous board for their lack of ambition. in no way does it disrespect the club.

he is beng honest with the supporters and verifying what many have suspected for long time as regards the ambitions of those in control. would you have preffered he said nothing and let the club pretend all was fine until it was too late to replace him? he has give the club no excuse now for not replacing him as they have plenty of time.

Not at all no problem of what he said it is how it was announced what right has he to do it on his website without arsenal knowledge ,

[Dan_85]

absolutely pathetic of posters to say that rvp has acted without class and is in the wrong and claiming he is greedy. if we go with that argument any player leaving a smaller club to a club that contends for trophies is thus greedy and actually not ambitious to win medals, just greedy. all our signings from 'smaller' clubs are thus greedy, walcot, verm, arteta, sagna, all greedy. didnt move in the hope that there new club will have more of a chance of winning things, just moved cos of greed. hes coming towards the end of his career having won nothing, has seen the route the management are going to take as regards improving the side (or not as the case will be) and seen that it will be more of the same and not enough to compete and has thus taken the decesion to actually move to a club that could win something and thus give him something to show at the end of his career, im sure a better pay packet is a nice bonus on top of that, but he is moving for ambition as most thought before hand and he himself has now stated.

those questioning the timing of it...get with it, as if the club would have allowed him to issue a joint statement telling it like it is, they would have spun and spun and delayed and delayed, rvp has come out put his cards on the table and done whats in the best interests of the club (considering hes leaving) as they have a decent length of of time to sort it out and have no excuse for not doing so. i wish cesc and nas had said the exact same thing last year and it wouldnt have given the club any excuses.

likewise this bullshit about about rvp giving us one good season and people saying he owes us and that we moaned about giving him new deals cos of his injury record. the guys has given more than a season, get real, where is he on the scoring charts for us? bit more than a one season wonder, and when he was struggling with injury in seasons past,when actually fit he had shown what a fine talent he is. thats the difference. thats why he justified the club retaining him throughout the past 7 years as he has shown genuine class. diaby et al havent yet get new deals.

its funny how we always tie the shite, who have shown nothing, to long term contracts, but the actual players who show talent consistently leave with their contracts running down.

akbs have been crapping on about he will stay, now he has completely contradicted them and given the reasons anyone with half a brain can see for leaving, they will all come out with the classless un loyal arguement. makes me sick. good luck robin, glad you have finally said what needed to be said and that your move forces the club into action and benefits the greater good.

anyone who questions his decision, timing of the statement or content, are naive in the extreme and need to take there blinkers off.

Totally agree with this, great post, especially with the part in bold, I've always said this, these shit players, who are on between 50-70k a week, have been found out and now we can't even sell and have to loan out, the contract/wage situation at our club is a joke, we have players in the team, virtually guaranteed their place with no competition, sitting on long, fat contracts... it makes me sick.

And the painful thing is, the longer this goes on the longer its gonna take to fix

[MegaGooner]

But when you take RVP out the picture, why would any player who desires success and trophies want to play for Arsenal.

+1

[clockender1]

the odd thing about this that knowing RVP's personality, I just don't see him doing well at either City or Juve. I think his fragile ego suits us or Barcelona much more, or the chavs or liverpool, where he'd be regarded as the main man and picked every week accordingly.

maybe he's not bothered about playing, and after watching Nasri and Mata, he's figured out that you can be crap all year , do eff all year and then still pick up a PL and CL medal in May.

I do think he still has unfinished business with us, so i'm slightly disappointed - but at the same time we should be thankful that it was his goals that brought us champions league football this season.

I'll miss him but not as much as I missed TH14, DB10 and PV4.

& with or without him we STILL need a DM and a CB.

[FrenchGun]

absolutely pathetic of posters to say that rvp has acted without class and is in the wrong and claiming he is greedy. if we go with that argument any player leaving a smaller club to a club that contends for trophies is thus greedy and actually not ambitious to win medals, just greedy. all our signings from 'smaller' clubs are thus greedy, walcot, verm, arteta, sagna, all greedy. didnt move in the hope that there new club will have more of a chance of winning things, just moved cos of greed. hes coming towards the end of his career having won nothing, has seen the route the management are going to take as regards improving the side (or not as the case will be) and seen that it will be more of the same and not enough to compete and has thus taken the decesion to actually move to a club that could win something and thus give him something to show at the end of his career, im sure a better pay packet is a nice bonus on top of that, but he is moving for ambition as most thought before hand and he himself has now stated.

those questioning the timing of it...get with it, as if the club would have allowed him to issue a joint statement telling it like it is, they would have spun and spun and delayed and delayed, rvp has come out put his cards on the table and done whats in the best interests of the club (considering hes leaving) as they have a decent length of of time to sort it out and have no excuse for not doing so. i wish cesc and nas had said the exact same thing last year and it wouldnt have given the club any excuses.

likewise this bullshit about about rvp giving us one good season and people saying he owes us and that we moaned about giving him new deals cos of his injury record. the guys has given more than a season, get real, where is he on the scoring charts for us? bit more than a one season wonder, and when he was struggling with injury in seasons past,when actually fit he had shown what a fine talent he is. thats the difference. thats why he justified the club retaining him throughout the past 7 years as he has shown genuine class. diaby et al havent yet get new deals.

its funny how we always tie the shite, who have shown nothing, to long term contracts, but the actual players who show talent consistently leave with their contracts running down.

akbs have been crapping on about he will stay, now he has completely contradicted them and given the reasons anyone with half a brain can see for leaving, they will all come out with the classless un loyal arguement. makes me sick. good luck robin, glad you have finally said what needed to be said and that your move forces the club into action and benefits the greater good.

anyone who questions his decision, timing of the statement or content, are naive in the extreme and need to take there blinkers off.

Sorry mate totally disagree he was our club captain to slag down the club in that way was out of order I'm not happy how the club is run but we pay his wages and still do hope we fine him if joey Barton done that we would all be saying what a prick well he is but you get my point .

I don't get you Zwimmer. Why would you be angry at RvP for telling us fans the truth? Our club is lying to us, they're telling us they have ambitions, while they have none. RvP is the only one being honnest with us and you're angry at him? He's not the one making fun of you and ripping you off. You're heading your anger at the wrong direction I think.

[richpye]

Just feel totally sick about it all.

It's a shite summer, it's going to rain all soddin weekend (the only weekend this month I can play cricket).
Now this news, I bloody hate sport sometimes.

So sodding annoying

[swimmer1]

But when you take RVP out the picture, why would any player who desires success and trophies want to play for Arsenal.

+1

So Rvp jumps you all do I'm lost gutted he I'd leaving but come on .

[clockender1]

look on the brightside chaps - at least it will bring our wage bill down ....

[northbank123]

The rational part of me says that he is genuinely world class, carried us for most of this year and this is his last chance for a major move. You can't expect a player born overseas to stay at the club out of a profound sense of loyalty to Wenger or the fans, he probably has a reason to feel somewhat let down after he joined the Invincibles team for the club to have fallen so far.

But then the bitterness kicks in and I think that he's undoubtedly been well-paid to sit on a treatment table for 50% of his career with us. How does he expect us to progress when he, our club captain and best player, leaves? While the fans in general may not be happy with the situation with Wenger and Gazidis I can't help but to feel he's using it as a smokescreen for his real/additional motives. To me his statement reeks of a lack of class and selfishness, it's cheap and is designed to whore him out. Would United have stuck with him through so many injuries?? Would any of the other teams he's trying to manufacture a move to? Would they fuck. If it wasn't for our sheer perseverance and total faith in him then he would probably be playing for a Europa League team in Germany right now.

[the playing mantis]

swimmer, how do we know he went behind the clubs back on this? cos of some bloke on the bbc? id imagine he gave them an ultimatum, eiher they announce it or he does. the club would never do it as they would be admitting their failings. based on the bs the club come out with, id suggest they gave him no choice, or at least no choice in saying what he wanted to. they would never have admitted themselves he was leaving due to their lack of ambition

[augie]

I find it amazing, funny and outrageous all at the same time that some fans are talking the clubs side in this and saying that cos they paid his wages throughout those injury riddled seasons, they should be entitled to more loyalty from him - how much loyalty are the club showing us fans ? We are the ones who continually put cash into the club coffers that helps pay these wages so do you see gratitude or loyalty from the club for your money ? If money (wages) is supposed to buy loyalty then where is it shown to you and me then ? The club takes our money season after season without a care in the world as to whether they are providing value for our money it is beautiful in a sad way, that the club who charges the highest ticket prices in world football,invest fcuk all in quality player recruitement,bring out a new home kit every season, pay their manager one of the largest salaries in world football are bleating every season about being screwed in a financially uneven world.......the c**ts have screwed us financially for years so fcuk them

[swimmer1]

2 good looking signings so far sure another 1 or 2 on there way sounds like at least we re trying at long last but Rvp says we are not so must be true.

[donaldo]

I never believed for one minute RVP would sign a new contract.Buts its amazing all the deluded fans who thought he was staying are now slaughtering him.Just read what he said.He is only saying what the majority of us on here have been saying.The club lacks ambition.

Swimmer stick to Pravda.com

[the playing mantis]

swimmer, 2 unproven signings and only because the club knew he was off. get with it, how can u be so naive after all the crap that the club comes out with. did u learn nothing from the shambles of last summer???