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As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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piresistible wrote:GOONERSID- YOU MISERABLE MISERABLE person- you along with the other hippies on this site are a joke.
all you do is constantly negate this team and think by spreading this negativity you'll achieve something but you know what NO DOING!! :barscarf:
So do you think kolo and johan would get in a top 3 side? I am merely stating what i believe to be fact, if the truth is negative that doesn't mean it should not be spoken.
And yes I am miserable when it comes to the direction I think the club is headed, and the current lack of accountability.

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piresistible wrote:GOONERSID- YOU MISERABLE MISERABLE person- you along with the other hippies on this site are a joke.
all you do is constantly negate this team and think by spreading this negativity you'll achieve something but you know what NO DOING!! :barscarf:
Piresistible - YOU DELUSIONAL DELUSIONAL person - you along with the other rose-tinters on this site are a joke. All you do is constantly make excuses for this manager and team and think by spreading this Arsene Knows bollocks you'll achieve something, but we trust what we see with our own eyes and you know what, NO DOING!! :lol: :lol:

You see, insults like that can work both ways. :roll: :lol: :wink:

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goonersid wrote:
piresistible wrote:GOONERSID- YOU MISERABLE MISERABLE person- you along with the other hippies on this site are a joke.
all you do is constantly negate this team and think by spreading this negativity you'll achieve something but you know what NO DOING!! :barscarf:
So do you think kolo and johan would get in a top 3 side? I am merely stating what i believe to be fact, if the truth is negative that doesn't mean it should not be spoken.
And yes I am miserable when it comes to the direction I think the club is headed, and the current lack of accountability.
Kolo has been impeccable before the second half of last season and would have got into any other top 4 side apart from Man Utd.

He's lost his form at last years ACN and has still not quite recovered from it, particularly since he missed pre-season with Malaria and for a player that relies as heavily on his fitness as he does that hardly helps. Currently he would not get into the starting 11 of the others, however, he's 28 years old and with a good pre-season under his belt he's more than capable of reaching his former best again. Do you remember who played at centre back for the majority of our 49 game unbeaten run?

Djourou is one of the biggest talents in central defence in the league. Better than Evans? Definitely. Any top 4 club would have him as a back up.

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Kolo's form started dipping before the african nations, he was giving away pens every other week, he has had a season and a half to sort himself out and he hasn't. I like kolo but he needs a change of club to resurrect his career.
As for Johan I'm sorry but we will have to agree to differ, I could be proved wrong.

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I've come to the conclusion that it would be best to sell Kolo and keep Gallas months ago.

I love Kolo and I do think he'll be back to his best next season, but out of Gallas and him Gallas is the better player and is more important to the squad imo.

That's not to say that Kolo isn't top 4 material, because he definitely is/will be again.

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Why not keep them both, chelsea seem to be able to keep 4 world class CB's. Terry, Alex, Calvalho, Ivanovic.

Why cant we ?

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PI7ES wrote:Why not keep them both, chelsea seem to be able to keep 4 world class CB's. Terry, Alex, Calvalho, Ivanovic.

Why cant we ?
Out of that list, I make 2 world class centre backs. The other 2 are good but not world class. 8)

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All four are better than what we have, with maybe the exception that gallas may be better than ivanovic

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Personally I dont like what I refer to as “negative supportâ€

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[quote="ramon"]Personally I dont like what I refer to as “negative supportâ€

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Post by Irish Gooner »

I may watch this tonight if only to see Wenger squirm.

Nice to see Silvestre and Adebayor being heavily questioned.

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Post by JakeN13 »

I respect the fact that Wenger protect his players as if his life depended on it but what I can't stand is the way he's made it accaptable not to give 100%. It became more obvious than ever last season when we were humiliated against Spurs in the League cup and ManUre in the FA cup. Many players just didn't care. Wenger should have started a riot to show it's just not accaptable and if you ain't proud to wear the shirt...sod off! If he can fine players for having a drink after a game surely he can fine players for lack of effort on teh pitch as well.

I guess Wenger's always been like this though. Just look at Vieira, he's said himself that when he came to the club Adams took him aside and told him he'd have to put more effort in. I also remember an interview with Seb Larsson where he said you had no choice than to give 100% when you're training with the first team because the rollicking you'd get of Keown and Parlour if you didn't put your foot in was much worse than any bruises you'd ever get. Not a mention about even a word from the manager or even his assistant for lack of effort. Now we don't have an Adams, Keown, PArlour or even Vieira and I hate it!!

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The suggestion from Wenger - backed predictably by some supporters on here - that Arsenal players are afraid of playing at home, is just cretinous and should not be allowed to go unchallenged.

I started going to Highbury in the late 60s and the criticism was there, just the same - probably worse.

I've been to other grounds in this country and abroad and the criticism when things go badly is often loudest, at grounds where the support is most obsessive - Liverpool, Barcelona and Newcastle all fit that bill.

Wenger insists his players are courageous. But then says they are afraid of a section of their own home fans. If so it's no wonder they are paralysed by Tevez and Ronaldo :roll:


But there is one big difference between now and 1967. In those days players were paid modestly and the connection between them and the supporters was real, in the sense that the latter could relate to the former. And I would suggest the former also had some regard for the latter.

If the players - or some of them - now whine about a section of the supporters being alien to them, it is as nothing compared to how remote the players now are from the fans. From the training ground to the Bentley, to OK Magazine and awful lot of players cocoon themselves in their own little cash fueled world oblivious of how the remaining 97.5% live. On the pitch is one of the few areas where reality checks in.

If some players find a few choruses of disapproval too much for their sensitive nature, try flipping burgers for £6 an hour. Or better still, be the man and rise to the challenge.

The abuse Tony Adams got from rival fans was far worse than anything that I have ever heard directed at any Arsenal player at Highbury or the Emirates. But TA6 was not some whimpy little crisp packet who folded in the breeze and he fought back and won.

Part of Wenger's problem is that he has a squad of 'airey - fairey lightweights', devoid of fight and unable to ispire anyone around them. This is one of the many things Wenger needs to look at this summer.

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if anything is cretinous it's the notion that abuse from away fans can be compared to that to the home fans and that the fact that they are being paid good money allows fans to call them whatever they want and abuse them.

I'm being paid good money (not compared to a footballer though, unfortunately), but I doubt that my colleagues and my boss calling me a useless *word censored* every day at work would make me better at what I'm doing.

It doesn't matter what they are earning, it means fuck all.

The point is that the negative attitude of the home fans doesn't help. It's not the reason we've not won anything this season, but it certainly hasn't helped. A player playing with confidence is a completely different player from one playing without confidence, it's as simple as that.

For me, when I go to the stadium I want to see the team do well and I want to support them. I pay good money for a ticket, and if all I can do is moan and shout useless *word censored* and leave the stadium 15 minutes before the end then I'd rather not go.

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Rob wrote:The suggestion from Wenger - backed predictably by some supporters on here - that Arsenal players are afraid of playing at home, is just cretinous and should not be allowed to go unchallenged.

I started going to Highbury in the late 60s and the criticism was there, just the same - probably worse.

I've been to other grounds in this country and abroad and the criticism when things go badly is often loudest, at grounds where the support is most obsessive - Liverpool, Barcelona and Newcastle all fit that bill.

Wenger insists his players are courageous. But then says they are afraid of a section of their own home fans. If so it's no wonder they are paralysed by Tevez and Ronaldo :roll:


But there is one big difference between now and 1967. In those days players were paid modestly and the connection between them and the supporters was real, in the sense that the latter could relate to the former. And I would suggest the former also had some regard for the latter.

If the players - or some of them - now whine about a section of the supporters being alien to them, it is as nothing compared to how remote the players now are from the fans. From the training ground to the Bentley, to OK Magazine and awful lot of players cocoon themselves in their own little cash fueled world oblivious of how the remaining 97.5% live. On the pitch is one of the few areas where reality checks in.

If some players find a few choruses of disapproval too much for their sensitive nature, try flipping burgers for £6 an hour. Or better still, be the man and rise to the challenge.

The abuse Tony Adams got from rival fans was far worse than anything that I have ever heard directed at any Arsenal player at Highbury or the Emirates. But TA6 was not some whimpy little crisp packet who folded in the breeze and he fought back and won.

Part of Wenger's problem is that he has a squad of 'airey - fairey lightweights', devoid of fight and unable to ispire anyone around them. This is one of the many things Wenger needs to look at this summer.


One hell of a post Rob 8)

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