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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:22 pm
by USMartin
he may be avin a larf but fun time is over.
I want Olgit BANNED Unless he apologizes formally.
The reason is simple. He clearly either does not not know the details of what hpaapned in the incident he referenced or deliberately withhled them.
I have e-mails from former and current moderators as well as from many friends thaen and now from the forum that will confirm that in fact my banning was unjustified and was not porpulary supported (indeed there were portets and debates about it two and three years after it happened.
As for the moderators I can confirm that one resigned in protest at the time of the incident and that another who is still a moderator now I believe stated I broke no forum rules whatsoever at that time, and while he acknolwedged they would rreview and revise the rules with my case in mind it never happened. Some cutrrent forum members use to even ask on a regular basis how soon the new rules would be posted as recently as last year or even early this yer.
Olgit has deliberately used this incident which I do not deny happened to mis-represent my character and at the very least should be made to apologize formally for that. The issue was not my behavior but my views and I have an e-mail that absolutely confirms at that time that the Board were aware that my behavior had violated no forum rules.
If Olgit is going to print what happened there he has an obligation to print why it happened as well, otherwise he owes me an apology or should upon the facts being confirmed face action ofr this. The issue bot saying I was banned from that forum but using banning that to impugn my character here when in fact my character was not at issue and that is in fact beyond dispute..
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:48 pm
by olgitgooner
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:54 pm
by QuartzGooner
USMartin
I want to hear your side of the story.
Where were you banned from, and why (in your opinion, and in the opinion of those who banned you) were you banned?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:55 pm
by mrgnu1958
BAN THAT TWAT OLD"Y
sign here....**** 1958
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:56 pm
by mrgnu1958
QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin
Why were you banned?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:00 pm
by olgitgooner
mrgnu1958 wrote:BAN THAT TWAT OLD"Y
sign here....**** 1958
Where do I sign?
Someone needs to start a proper "ban oldtwatgooner" petition!!
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:03 pm
by USMartin
mrgnu1958 wrote:QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin
Why were you banned?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:04 pm
by QuartzGooner
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:06 pm
by stg
olgitgooner wrote:USMartin, I have broken a personal promise to myself. I actually read
all your words in this thread
Yet again, you have hijacked a thread and used it as a platform for your anti-board crusade.
Additionally you have called Quartz a
liar, and have been generally rude to anyone who has challenged your opinions and allegations.
You have recently called me a liar, too. As well as an ass and a hypocrit etc.
Whilst I personally can laugh at such childish slander, I think it's fair to say that several people on here have taken exception to your insults.
I've taken up your invitation to ask about you on the Steve Gleiber forum. I clicked on the search button, and typed in "USMartin.
It seems you weren't the most popular guy over there
. I quote......
" I have decided over a year ago that because of the disruptive nature of some postings (or posters) and in particular USMartin, these people will be banned for good. There are other arsenal forums they can join but not the Steve Gleiber Arsenal forum. I will not allow "
It would appear that you were rather fond of being rude in PMs, too.
I'm not suggesting that you should be banned from here. But I think you ought to rein in the rudeness. And maybe apologise to the recipients of your insults.
Oh, and desist from the anti-board conjecture. It's boring.
So you want oldgit to apologize for what exactly? posting what he found out about you in another forum. Is the quote above wrong has he made it up? ok it might be a misunderstanding but untill you pointed it out how was he to know. Dont you think you have gone OTT about it.
Yes there are 2 sides to each story but bloody hell asking somebody to be banned because of that there wouldnt be anybody left on this forum if we continued in that vain
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:18 pm
by QuartzGooner
The signatures are piling up, already more than USMartin's petition!
1.) Mr ****
2.) Tony Montana
3.) Rod Hull
4.) Tara Palmer-Tompkinson
5.) Hilda Ogden
6.) Raymond Domenech
7.) Julio Cesar-Chavez
8.) Michael Parkinson
9.) Captain Mainwaring
10.) Paul Revere
11.) Lady Gaga
12.) Sir Roger Gibbs
13.) Simon Cowell (left message saying if there's anything he can do to help just ask!)
14.) David Bellamy
15.) Oscar Goldman
16.) John "Portsmouth Superfan" Westwood
17.) Gay Byrne
18.) Emma Byrne
19.) Eric Bristow
20.) Hollowman Giggs
21.) Banksy
...
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:27 pm
by olgitgooner
QuartzGooner wrote:
The signatures are piling up, already more than USMartin's petition!
1.) Mr ****
2.) Tony Montana
3.) Rod Hull
4.) Tara Palmer-Tompkinson
5.) Hilda Ogden
6.) Raymond Domenech
7.) Julio Cesar-Chavez
8.) Michael Parkinson
9.) Captain Mainwaring
10.) Paul Revere
11.) Lady Gaga
12.) Sir Roger Gibbs
That Lady Gaga is a treacherous bitch.
One minute she wants to have my babies. Next minute it's a stab in the back.
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:32 pm
by mrgnu1958
who the feck is Sir Roger Gibbs???
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:43 pm
by USMartin
QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin
I want to hear your side of the story.
Where were you banned from, and why (in your opinion, and in the opinion of those who banned you) were you banned?
It's quite simple really.
I was nanned because some forum members and moderators who were deeply offended by my views (they had tried to encourage me to post in a separate sub-forum solely opened for discussing my views, even though anyone familiar with that fioorum knows that simply would have isolated my posts in a way that was tantamount to censorship in my opinion).
But the issue comes down to this - mt ban had nothing to do with violating any forum rules, and that while the moderator who told me this supported my banning and stated that the rules would be changed because of my circumstnaces they have not been in over four years.
The quote that Olgit posted actually is from two or three years
after my banning occurred. because even then there was still that much conmdemnation of the moderators doing what they did and how they did it. I cannot confirm this but I was told by a friend who spoke to Judith Gleieber at the time of the actual incident that while she was not prepared to to get involved that she said something to the effect that it would not have happened that way had Steve been alive. I cannot confrim she said that but I was told she did. That quote was Mrs Glieber acting out of loyalty to her moderators whom she felt deep gratitude for (and
rightly so) keeping Steve's site alive.
The important point here is that one of the moderators again confirmed even as this was happening that it was not because I had broken forum rules or behaved improperly. Indeed this is why the action was highly unpopular at the time and as I say for two and three years afterwards remained at times at hotly debated issue.
I have no issue with Olgit pointing out I was banned - in fact I believe I had said as much myself previously. My issue if wwith him taking what he learned and posting it without context and using to impugn my character when in fact as i said my character was not in fact the issue there. I still converse regularly with many members form there even some whom I know dislike my views very much. Though honestly I need to catch up with some of them soon in fact. Guess this is at least as good an excuse as any.
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:44 pm
by QuartzGooner
mrgnu1958 wrote:who the feck is Sir Roger Gibbs???
Good man Sir Roger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Gibbs
USMartin
People were offended by your views on what? The board?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:53 pm
by olgitgooner
USMartin wrote:QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin
I want to hear your side of the story.
Where were you banned from, and why (in your opinion, and in the opinion of those who banned you) were you banned?
It's quite simple really.
I was nanned because some forum members and moderators who were deeply offended by my views (they had tried to encourage me to post in a separate sub-forum solely opened for discussing my views, even though anyone familiar with that fioorum knows that simply would have isolated my posts in a way that was tantamount to censorship in my opinion).
But the issue comes down to this - mt ban had nothing to do with violating any forum rules, and that while the moderator who told me this supported my banning and stated that the rules would be changed because of my circumstnaces they have not been in over four years.
The quote that Olgit posted actually is from two or three years
after my banning occurred. because even then there was still that much conmdemnation of the moderators doing what they did and how they did it. I cannot confirm this but I was told by a friend who spoke to
Judith Gleieber at the time of the actual incident that while she was not prepared to to get involved that she said something to the effect that it would not have happened that way had Steve been alive. I cannot confrim she said that but I was told she did. That quote was Mrs Glieber acting out of loyalty to her moderators whom she felt deep gratitude for (and
rightly so) keeping Steve's site alive.
The important point here is that one of the moderators again confirmed even as this was happening that it was not because I had broken forum rules or behaved improperly. Indeed this is why the action was highly unpopular at the time and as I say for two and three years afterwards remained at times at hotly debated issue.
I have no issue with Olgit pointing out I was banned - in fact I believe I had said as much myself previously. My issue if wwith him taking what he learned and posting it without context and using to impugn my character when in fact as i said my character was not in fact the issue there. I still converse regularly with many members form there even some whom I know dislike my views very much. Though honestly I need to catch up with some of them soon in fact. Guess this is at least as good an excuse as any.
This quote......
... "I have decided over a year ago that because of the disruptive nature of some postings (or posters) and in particular USMartin, these people will be banned for good. There are other arsenal forums they can join but not the Steve Gleiber Arsenal forum. I will not allow ..."
was from JUDITH GLEIBER
