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GoonerN5 wrote:
MegaGooner wrote:
GoonerN5 wrote:If Wenger was dping his job properly then shit like Diaby wouldnt be anywhere near our squad, people can blame Dowd, Rosicky, Diaby etc but the blame lies at Wengers door
That is harsh. As was said before, he knows what it is to have a leg break. He's had vicious tackle against him this season where he hasn't played much. I fully understand his reaction, not condoning it, but I do understand why he did it.
Leg break or not he isnt anywhere near good enough to be playing for us, its not just him, Bendtner, Squillaci, Rosicky, Vela, Eboue etc shouldnt be anywhere near our squad, they wouldnt get anywhere near Man U or Chelseas squad, and that is down to Wenger.
Curiously, you didn't mention Denilson :hmmthink: :lol:

I understand your frustration bud and know that these players aren't good enough for our club, but unfortunately, this is the "hand we've been dealt" by Wenger.

Just a quick run through of the players you mentioned though:

Bendtner - When on form he is an OK squad player. Kept us in the title race last season when RVP had his normal injury time-off.

Squillaci - I wouldn't want him in my CC team :evil:

Rosicky - Skillful player but seems to get worse everytime I see him :evil:

Vela - What has he got to do to get a game for us? Last year RVP and B52 was injured but AW rather played AA23 at CF ahead of Vela. I'm not saying he would have done the business, but CFs need to play proper games to get their confidence up.

Eboue - Oh Lord don't get me started on him.......but again an OK backup if he stays on his feet.

That said, a PL team should never surrender a 4 goal lead especially THE ARSENAL :evil:

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Phil Dowd is shit, but the trouble is the rest aren't much, if any, better. We got screwed today when Stoke got two goals that shouldn't have counted. One of them was offside and guess which linesman got it wrong, the same useless *word censored* you had in the everton game. The league is fucking full of shit, weak officials. I thought we were told when refs went professional that they would be fitter and better since they could concentrate solely on refereeing. Ends up all they were after was an easy life and a pay rise because they are just as shit as they were 10 years ago.
It's an age old debate, but if they can't get big decisions right, maybe it's time for technology. The games are worth too much to be decided by weak, incompetent officials

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safcftm wrote:Phil Dowd is shit, but the trouble is the rest aren't much, if any, better. We got screwed today when Stoke got two goals that shouldn't have counted. One of them was offside and guess which linesman got it wrong, the same useless c**t you had in the everton game. The league is fucking full of shit, weak officials. I thought we were told when refs went professional that they would be fitter and better since they could concentrate solely on refereeing. Ends up all they were after was an easy life and a pay rise because they are just as shit as they were 10 years ago.
It's an age old debate, but if they can't get big decisions right, maybe it's time for technology. The games are worth too much to be decided by weak, incompetent officials
Did the Viagra help :? :?: :wink:

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safcftm wrote:Phil Dowd is shit, but the trouble is the rest aren't much, if any, better. We got screwed today when Stoke got two goals that shouldn't have counted. One of them was offside and guess which linesman got it wrong, the same useless c**t you had in the everton game. The league is fucking full of shit, weak officials. I thought we were told when refs went professional that they would be fitter and better since they could concentrate solely on refereeing. Ends up all they were after was an easy life and a pay rise because they are just as shit as they were 10 years ago.
It's an age old debate, but if they can't get big decisions right, maybe it's time for technology. The games are worth too much to be decided by weak, incompetent officials
We could of cheered you up by thumping the 'mags' but trust our team to fuck a 4 goal lead up. :(

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MegaGooner wrote:
GoonerN5 wrote:
MegaGooner wrote:
GoonerN5 wrote:If Wenger was dping his job properly then shit like Diaby wouldnt be anywhere near our squad, people can blame Dowd, Rosicky, Diaby etc but the blame lies at Wengers door
That is harsh. As was said before, he knows what it is to have a leg break. He's had vicious tackle against him this season where he hasn't played much. I fully understand his reaction, not condoning it, but I do understand why he did it.
Leg break or not he isnt anywhere near good enough to be playing for us, its not just him, Bendtner, Squillaci, Rosicky, Vela, Eboue etc shouldnt be anywhere near our squad, they wouldnt get anywhere near Man U or Chelseas squad, and that is down to Wenger.
Curiously, you didn't mention Denilson :hmmthink: :lol:

I understand your frustration bud and know that these players aren't good enough for our club, but unfortunately, this is the "hand we've been dealt" by Wenger.

Just a quick run through of the players you mentioned though:

Bendtner - When on form he is an OK squad player. Kept us in the title race last season when RVP had his normal injury time-off.

Squillaci - I wouldn't want him in my CC team :evil:

Rosicky - Skillful player but seems to get worse everytime I see him :evil:

Vela - What has he got to do to get a game for us? Last year RVP and B52 was injured but AW rather played AA23 at CF ahead of Vela. I'm not saying he would have done the business, but CFs need to play proper games to get their confidence up.

Eboue - Oh Lord don't get me started on him.......but again an OK backup if he stays on his feet.

That said, a PL team should never surrender a 4 goal lead especially THE ARSENAL :evil:
Yeah I forgot to mention Denilson, im sure theres a few others as well that Ive forgot but im in a shit mood!

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safcftm wrote:Phil Dowd is shit, but the trouble is the rest aren't much, if any, better. We got screwed today when Stoke got two goals that shouldn't have counted. One of them was offside and guess which linesman got it wrong, the same useless c**t you had in the everton game. The league is fucking full of shit, weak officials. I thought we were told when refs went professional that they would be fitter and better since they could concentrate solely on refereeing. Ends up all they were after was an easy life and a pay rise because they are just as shit as they were 10 years ago.
It's an age old debate, but if they can't get big decisions right, maybe it's time for technology. The games are worth too much to be decided by weak, incompetent officials
My opinion is that first and foremost there is no corruption in the game, even like today when it seems the referee is being paid to make us lose.

For obvious reasons, in the last 15 years or so, Man United have always got the decisions from every single referee. If he doesnt, he is hammered by Ferguson and put back in line.

After this, we are one of the other clubs, like Sunderland, that suffer from bumbling, fat, incompetent waste of space match officials.
We are higher in the chain, and have alot more possession so as things go we get more decisions than teams like Sunderland.

I watched two games today, ours and Stokes. Both games decided by incompetent refereeing, where Stoke had at least 1 if not 2 illegal goals allowed.

The common factor: venue.

Britannia and St James, both on the referees back for any decision going, as youd expect everywhere.

The problem lies when the referees are clearly influenced, and when 50k are roaring for a penalty its easy to give it as Dowd showed today giving two disgraceful penalties for nothing.

If Dowd was an honest man, he would go home tonight and think, fuck I cocked up today big time. Now he probably doesnt give a fiddlers fuck, as from what I gather the guy despises Wenger, but I assume most officials have some honesty inside.

Games are no longer refereed anymore, the crowds referee games. The louder and more there is, the more decisions you get. Simple as.

Lets be honest, Dowd wouldnt have dared do that at Ashburton today would he, the crowd may be quiet sometimes but he wouldnt have got away with that.

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As had probably already been said, bad referee or not, you can't be dropping four-goal leads in the last 20 minutes. Even if the FA sent out a referee to deliberately give every decision the opposite way, most teams should be able to see out a four goal lead for 20 minutes.

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The Viagra didn't help much. My mate got arrested pre match for setting off a smoke bomb then we scored early and I came, went to clean up then the officials fucked us over. Then we got in minibus and were having great fun cheering the arsenal goals until :banghead:
Then I got to Newcastle station to continue my journey home and I'm surrounded by pissed up plastic Scottish mags singing about collocini and giving renditions of 4-0 and you fucked it up to the one poor gooner on the train with his son who must be about 5 years old and who looks very frightened by it all. Utter *word censored*.

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Irish Gooner wrote:
safcftm wrote:Phil Dowd is shit, but the trouble is the rest aren't much, if any, better. We got screwed today when Stoke got two goals that shouldn't have counted. One of them was offside and guess which linesman got it wrong, the same useless c**t you had in the everton game. The league is fucking full of shit, weak officials. I thought we were told when refs went professional that they would be fitter and better since they could concentrate solely on refereeing. Ends up all they were after was an easy life and a pay rise because they are just as shit as they were 10 years ago.
It's an age old debate, but if they can't get big decisions right, maybe it's time for technology. The games are worth too much to be decided by weak, incompetent officials
My opinion is that first and foremost there is no corruption in the game, even like today when it seems the referee is being paid to make us lose.

For obvious reasons, in the last 15 years or so, Man United have always got the decisions from every single referee. If he doesnt, he is hammered by Ferguson and put back in line.

After this, we are one of the other clubs, like Sunderland, that suffer from bumbling, fat, incompetent waste of space match officials.
We are higher in the chain, and have alot more possession so as things go we get more decisions than teams like Sunderland.

I watched two games today, ours and Stokes. Both games decided by incompetent refereeing, where Stoke had at least 1 if not 2 illegal goals allowed.

The common factor: venue.

Britannia and St James, both on the referees back for any decision going, as youd expect everywhere.

The problem lies when the referees are clearly influenced, and when 50k are roaring for a penalty its easy to give it as Dowd showed today giving two disgraceful penalties for nothing.

If Dowd was an honest man, he would go home tonight and think, fuck I cocked up today big time. Now he probably doesnt give a fiddlers fuck, as from what I gather the guy despises Wenger, but I assume most officials have some honesty inside.

Games are no longer refereed anymore, the crowds referee games. The louder and more there is, the more decisions you get. Simple as.

Lets be honest, Dowd wouldnt have dared do that at Ashburton today would he, the crowd may be quiet sometimes but he wouldnt have got away with that.
Great post mate, 100% spot on. It's not a conspiracy it's just incompetence and as I say weakness, hence the decisions for the home teams today. Not good enough

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safcftm wrote:The Viagra didn't help much. My mate got arrested pre match for setting off a smoke bomb then we scored early and I came, went to clean up then the officials fucked us over. Then we got in minibus and were having great fun cheering the arsenal goals until :banghead:
Then I got to Newcastle station to continue my journey home and I'm surrounded by pissed up plastic Scottish mags singing about collocini and giving renditions of 4-0 and you fucked it up to the one poor gooner on the train with his son who must be about 5 years old and who looks very frightened by it all. Utter c**ts.
“Plastic Magsâ€

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Irish Gooner wrote:
safcftm wrote:Phil Dowd is shit, but the trouble is the rest aren't much, if any, better. We got screwed today when Stoke got two goals that shouldn't have counted. One of them was offside and guess which linesman got it wrong, the same useless c**t you had in the everton game. The league is fucking full of shit, weak officials. I thought we were told when refs went professional that they would be fitter and better since they could concentrate solely on refereeing. Ends up all they were after was an easy life and a pay rise because they are just as shit as they were 10 years ago.
It's an age old debate, but if they can't get big decisions right, maybe it's time for technology. The games are worth too much to be decided by weak, incompetent officials
My opinion is that first and foremost there is no corruption in the game, even like today when it seems the referee is being paid to make us lose.

For obvious reasons, in the last 15 years or so, Man United have always got the decisions from every single referee. If he doesnt, he is hammered by Ferguson and put back in line.

After this, we are one of the other clubs, like Sunderland, that suffer from bumbling, fat, incompetent waste of space match officials.
We are higher in the chain, and have alot more possession so as things go we get more decisions than teams like Sunderland.

I watched two games today, ours and Stokes. Both games decided by incompetent refereeing, where Stoke had at least 1 if not 2 illegal goals allowed.

The common factor: venue.

Britannia and St James, both on the referees back for any decision going, as youd expect everywhere.

The problem lies when the referees are clearly influenced, and when 50k are roaring for a penalty its easy to give it as Dowd showed today giving two disgraceful penalties for nothing.

If Dowd was an honest man, he would go home tonight and think, fuck I cocked up today big time. Now he probably doesnt give a fiddlers fuck, as from what I gather the guy despises Wenger, but I assume most officials have some honesty inside.

Games are no longer refereed anymore, the crowds referee games. The louder and more there is, the more decisions you get. Simple as.

Lets be honest, Dowd wouldnt have dared do that at Ashburton today would he, the crowd may be quiet sometimes but he wouldnt have got away with that.
Spot on.

Time for video technology.

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Lads, we've got to stop this paranoia about bent refs against us. Dowd obviously fucked up big time but I keep repeating that what happened today is just another example of where Wenger gets it wrong. No other team has lost a 4 goal lead in the PL and he admitted we panicked. Sorry but your team reflects the manager and this manager only knows how to attack and fuck all about defending a 1 goal lead let alone a fucking 4 goal lead.

Dowd did not allow them back into the game, we did because we have no leaders like the famous back 5 to make sure we continue to strangle the life out of a team and not let them get a sniff of a comeback.

WENGER'S FAULT, END OF :banghead:

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1989 wrote:
LDB wrote:Investigation into this c**t is required pronto.

The leap of faith required to accept that all those decisions were pure incompetence is too much.
Agreed.

The second pen decision did it for me. How on earth is that a penalty? I've seen it again and if anything it was a foul for us.
I've only seen it once, but didn't Rosicky needlessly jump into the Newcastle player? - there was always a risk the ref would point to the spot, surely.

And for the first penalty, wasn't Koscielny a little too eager to win the ball in the box? - looked very clumsy and awkward to me, and it gave the referee an unnecessary decision to make.

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Both were soft. In normal circumstances the referee either:

- gives neither as they were soft

- gives the first and then nothing thereafter

- gives the 2nd after refusing the first


I've honestly never seen a referee give 3 soft, match changing decisions ine one match to the same team.

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1989 wrote:Time for video technology.
Apparently snoods are a higher priority :roll: :oops: :wink:

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