As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
rigsby wrote:WHY FUCKIGN WHY do we constantly let him go on international duty with them
Exactamo...if he love's Arsenal as much as he claims to, surely (with this being our last chance in the prem title saloon) he'd forgoe playing for the dutch for a few friendlies fer feck sake!
Or just fucking retire... why doesn't he... what else is he to gain playing international football ?, according to Van Batflyer, the dutch crowd hate him and he'll he around 32 at the next world cup... RVP fucking retire you old crock
Pretty sure it was a Euro qualifier. Anywho, I agree with Frank
Van persie is 27. THe next world cup is in 2014. He'll be 30... If you think 30 is too old for a player then I'll have to tell you that you've spent too much time listening to Wenger.
30, 31 or 32 what the hell, any pace (and let's face it, he's hardly the fastest now) will have definitely gone in 3 years time, that's if he hasn't packed up all together by then anyway.
Is that really whats become acceptable to The Arsenal these days?
Fucking hell wiltord used to get that coming off the bench. Van persie is supposed to be our main striker.
Who forgot to add in 24 games.
Flash, this is exactly why need another striker. 15 goals in 24 games is world class but 24 game return in a season is appalling.
It's funny, but I was reading a paper today, about another sicknote player... Woodgate, and it stated that he had played around 50 odd games for the scum, if this is true, then even his playing record since joining them is considerably better than RVP's.
I am totally in agreement with mikey on this one.........sell rvp and bring in a top class striker that is capable of playing a full season (or at least a full season every 2nd year ). Assuming wenger remains in charge ( ) can anybody honestly believe that wenger is willing to invest in a top class striker to play alongside rvp ? Not fcuking likely especially with his bullshit 1 up front tactical policy
There is nobody denying that rvp is a class player but lets loo at the production of the guy - coming into this season I believe that the stats show that he has averaged 16 league games per season since joining the club. He has never scored 20 goals a season and his constant injuries shows no sign of reducing. Why tie up so much in wages and plan around any player who misses soooo many games ? How can the team progress from there ? When fit rvp plays, end of story, so that guarantee's that the make up of the team cannot remain constant and cannot develop that level of continuity ?
Frenchgun is 100% right when he suggested that some fans take off their Gooner goggles when it comes to expecting rvp to give up playing for his homeland however I would also suggest that these fans should start looking at the bigger picture when it comes to concentrating on our club. Fans have had no problem calling for rosicky to be removed from the club cos of his injuries and I dont see how this can be any different - class striker yes but when he is sitting in the stands he is less use to the club than you or me
Some of us really need to take their Arsenal Goggles off sometimes. First of all it was not a friendly game it was a qualification game for 2012 Euro.
As for the "If he loves Arsenal he should retire from international football"...
Have you got no spine? Maybe you have your own issues with your country and origins but most of us are proud of their origins and would be honored to wear the colors of their country!
I totally agree that considering his injury record, RVP should never play any kind of useless friendly game. But for an official game he's got every right to defend his colors and his homeland.
in that case let him fuck off back to Holland.
I don’t want a striker that gets injured every year. Sometimes at cost of playing for Holland.
I fucking hate the England squad so I really don’t give a fuck about Holland or any other country for that matter
Arsenal come first end of.
Yeah maybe he should just fuck off back to holland, and maybe Nasri should fuck off back to France and Cesc should fuck off back to spain. Because I can assure you that every single one of them is ready to play for their country any time, regardless the risks of being injuried.
You have your own issues with your national squad, and you don't give a fuck about holland or any other country, fine, but please show some respect and don't start insulting a player because he doesn't share your hate for his national side.
Thnk it's more about showing your loyalty to the club/fans that pay your under-earned wages every week only to see you fick off to your country and get injured YET again
Some of us really need to take their Arsenal Goggles off sometimes. First of all it was not a friendly game it was a qualification game for 2012 Euro.
As for the "If he loves Arsenal he should retire from international football"...
Have you got no spine? Maybe you have your own issues with your country and origins but most of us are proud of their origins and would be honored to wear the colors of their country!
I totally agree that considering his injury record, RVP should never play any kind of useless friendly game. But for an official game he's got every right to defend his colors and his homeland.
in that case let him fuck off back to Holland.
I don’t want a striker that gets injured every year. Sometimes at cost of playing for Holland.
I fucking hate the England squad so I really don’t give a fuck about Holland or any other country for that matter
Arsenal come first end of.
Yeah maybe he should just fuck off back to holland, and maybe Nasri should fuck off back to France and Cesc should fuck off back to spain. Because I can assure you that every single one of them is ready to play for their country any time, regardless the risks of being injuried.
You have your own issues with your national squad, and you don't give a fuck about holland or any other country, fine, but please show some respect and don't start insulting a player because he doesn't share your hate for his national side.
I think you're getting the wrong end of the stick Frenchie, the only reason that I and perhaps Mikey would like RVP to quit international football is because of his poor injury record. A few times, he has been injured on international duty meaning that he has missed huge chunks of the season, it would surely be beneficial to him and to us (The Arsenal) who pay his wages, that he stepped back and thought.... I must cut down on playing time.... I wonder how I could do this...... Then perhaps, just perhaps he would show some loyalty to the club that pays his wages, when he is fit and injured, and just quit international football, hence, cutting down on the chances that he could be (would be) injured...
Some of us really need to take their Arsenal Goggles off sometimes. First of all it was not a friendly game it was a qualification game for 2012 Euro.
As for the "If he loves Arsenal he should retire from international football"...
Have you got no spine? Maybe you have your own issues with your country and origins but most of us are proud of their origins and would be honored to wear the colors of their country!
I totally agree that considering his injury record, RVP should never play any kind of useless friendly game. But for an official game he's got every right to defend his colors and his homeland.
in that case let him fuck off back to Holland.
I don’t want a striker that gets injured every year. Sometimes at cost of playing for Holland.
I fucking hate the England squad so I really don’t give a fuck about Holland or any other country for that matter
Arsenal come first end of.
Yeah maybe he should just fuck off back to holland, and maybe Nasri should fuck off back to France and Cesc should fuck off back to spain. Because I can assure you that every single one of them is ready to play for their country any time, regardless the risks of being injuried.
You have your own issues with your national squad, and you don't give a fuck about holland or any other country, fine, but please show some respect and don't start insulting a player because he doesn't share your hate for his national side.
Nasri , and Cesc don’t give us less than half a season. I am sure if they did they would think about who is paying there wages and damage they can cause by getting injured every year at the expense of playing for country
I support Arsenal I don’t support England or Holland or France or Spain.
The guy is a liability and he knows it. Surely he should retire from the national side. If not retire from domestic football.
He cant do both and its not fair on us , his team mates or the club.
augie wrote:I am totally in agreement with mikey on this one.........sell rvp and bring in a top class striker that is capable of playing a full season (or at least a full season every 2nd year ). Assuming wenger remains in charge ( ) can anybody honestly believe that wenger is willing to invest in a top class striker to play alongside rvp ? Not fcuking likely especially with his bullshit 1 up front tactical policy
There is nobody denying that rvp is a class player but lets loo at the production of the guy - coming into this season I believe that the stats show that he has averaged 16 league games per season since joining the club. He has never scored 20 goals a season and his constant injuries shows no sign of reducing. Why tie up so much in wages and plan around any player who misses soooo many games ? How can the team progress from there ? When fit rvp plays, end of story, so that guarantee's that the make up of the team cannot remain constant and cannot develop that level of continuity ?
Frenchgun is 100% right when he suggested that some fans take off their Gooner goggles when it comes to expecting rvp to give up playing for his homeland however I would also suggest that these fans should start looking at the bigger picture when it comes to concentrating on our club. Fans have had no problem calling for rosicky to be removed from the club cos of his injuries and I dont see how this can be any different - class striker yes but when he is sitting in the stands he is less use to the club than you or me
I get your point Augie, and I must say I'd get rid of Rosicky in a flash if I could! But the only difference is that when Rosicky plays, he's shit. When RVP plays, he puts them in! Most players in the PL have played twice more games than RVP this season but he's still the 3rd top scorer of EPL, and top scorer in our team.
Now the problem I have with selling RVP is this one. I guess all of us would want RVP AND another top striker bought. What you're saying is that the only way we get a top striker is we sell RVP, because Wenger will never want to kill Bender and Chamak's potentials.
Let's be honnest. If We sell RVP, Wenger will not buy Eto'o, Ibrahimovic and co. If we sell RVP Wenger will just buy another unknown and we have no way to know for sure that this unknown guy will be able to bag in 20+ goals a season, let alone 10 goals a season! We have no way to know that the new guy won't be as injury prone as RVP.
augie wrote:I am totally in agreement with mikey on this one.........sell rvp and bring in a top class striker that is capable of playing a full season (or at least a full season every 2nd year ). Assuming wenger remains in charge ( ) can anybody honestly believe that wenger is willing to invest in a top class striker to play alongside rvp ? Not fcuking likely especially with his bullshit 1 up front tactical policy
There is nobody denying that rvp is a class player but lets loo at the production of the guy - coming into this season I believe that the stats show that he has averaged 16 league games per season since joining the club. He has never scored 20 goals a season and his constant injuries shows no sign of reducing. Why tie up so much in wages and plan around any player who misses soooo many games ? How can the team progress from there ? When fit rvp plays, end of story, so that guarantee's that the make up of the team cannot remain constant and cannot develop that level of continuity ?
Frenchgun is 100% right when he suggested that some fans take off their Gooner goggles when it comes to expecting rvp to give up playing for his homeland however I would also suggest that these fans should start looking at the bigger picture when it comes to concentrating on our club. Fans have had no problem calling for rosicky to be removed from the club cos of his injuries and I dont see how this can be any different - class striker yes but when he is sitting in the stands he is less use to the club than you or me
I get your point Augie, and I must say I'd get rid of Rosicky in a flash if I could! But the only difference is that when Rosicky plays, he's shit. When RVP plays, he puts them in! Most players in the PL have played twice more games than RVP this season but he's still the 3rd top scorer of EPL, and top scorer in our team.
Now the problem I have with selling RVP is this one. I guess all of us would want RVP AND another top striker bought. What you're saying is that the only way we get a top striker is we sell RVP, because Wenger will never want to kill Bender and Chamak's potentials.
Let's be honnest. If We sell RVP, Wenger will not buy Eto'o, Ibrahimovic and co. If we sell RVP Wenger will just buy another unknown and we have no way to know for sure that this unknown guy will be able to bag in 20+ goals a season, let alone 10 goals a season! We have no way to know that the new guy won't be as injury prone as RVP.
Unless we sign Michael Owen that will never happen
unless we sign Michael Owen that will never happen
I would like to add a question for the guys commenting on us being the club who pay his wages and that he should think about us first.
How does this work in the instance of the club wanting to sell? What if we do decide to sell on in the summer and he don't want to go? Does he get to stay?
No he doesn't. That shit goes two ways and while the club always have the option of selling a players registration, loyalty is only going to go so far.
As far as I know, since he joined, RvP has never once expressed a desire to leave or used any leverage to increase the wage in his contract.
He has done more than enough in his time here to show that he respects the club, loves the fans and wants to be successful here.
) can anybody honestly believe that wenger is willing to invest in a top class striker to play alongside rvp ? Not fcuking likely especially with his bullshit 1 up front tactical policy 
