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Reg Niseth wrote:In Yiddish, the word "y**" Yiddish: ייד is neutral or even complimentary, and in Ashkenazi Yiddish-speaking circles it is frequently used to mean simply "fellow," "chap," "buddy," "mate," etc., with no expressed emphasis on Jewishness (although this may be implied by the intra-Jewish context). Plural is יידן [jidn].

In Yiddish, a polite way to address a fellow Jew whose name one does not know is Reb y**, meaning "Sir." The Yiddish words yidish or yiddisher (from Middle High German jüdisch) is an adjective derived from the noun y**, and thus means "Jewish".

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The word **** ( /ˈjiːd/; Yiddish: ייִד)[clarification needed] is a slang Jewish ethnonym. Its usage may be controversial in modern English language. It is not usually considered offensive when pronounced /ˈjiːd/ (rhyming with deed), the way Yiddish-speakers say it, though some may deem the word offensive regardless. When pronounced /ˈjɪd/ (rhyming with did), it can generally be perceived as a pejorative—and is used as a derogatory epithet by antisemites[1] although many Jewish people use the term amongst themselves and a Jewish dating website of the same name exists.[2]

Supporters of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. adopted the nickname "****" (or "Y****") and often identify as "**** Army". Used as a badge of pride by the Jewish communities based near to the North London football club, such usage is not without controversy.



Almost all words that are used to abuse have came from a non abusive origin...

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i will admit i dont use it that often deffo not as often as i would in the past ( sorry quartz ) but sometimes when im having a laugh with the guy i work with ( a spu*s fan ) or my brother in law ( another one ) i use it in jest.

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REBEL GOONER wrote:i will admit i dont use it that often deffo not as often as i would in the past ( sorry quartz ) but sometimes when im having a laugh with the guy i work with ( a spu*s fan ) or my brother in law ( another one ) i use it in jest.
me too i used to use it a lot more than i would now. A bloke i work (sp*rs fan) with regularly comes in with a sweatshirt with '**** army' across the front of it. This is where it gets confusing for me

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flash gunner wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote:i will admit i dont use it that often deffo not as often as i would in the past ( sorry quartz ) but sometimes when im having a laugh with the guy i work with ( a spu*s fan ) or my brother in law ( another one ) i use it in jest.
me too i used to use it a lot more than i would now. A bloke i work (sp*rs fan) with regularly comes in with a sweatshirt with 'y** army' across the front of it. This is where it gets confusing for me
It's ok mate, a high percentage of men have confusing thoughts about other men.

If you want to act on it, you go right ahead.

As this thread proves, society is much more tolerant these days.

But still, I'm not sure I'd approve of a Spurs/Arsenal gay lovefest and would likely abuse you two little lovebirds. :lol: 8) :wink:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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you coming out flash :shock: :lol:

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REBEL GOONER wrote:you coming out flash :shock: :lol:
Already out i think :? :shock: :lol:

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flash gunner wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote:you coming out flash :shock: :lol:
Already out i think :? :shock: :lol:

sorry i forgot :oops:


founding member of the tennis clique :lol:

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If we have a song calling them Jews is that accepatable ?


Another point on PC - I remember a while back when you weren't supposed to call a black guy - a black guy, u were supposed to say coloured. Now I have plenty of black friends and relations and they thought calling them coloured was more offensive.

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REBEL GOONER wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote:you coming out flash :shock: :lol:
Already out i think :? :shock: :lol:

sorry i forgot :oops:


founding member of the tennis clique :lol:
Exactly :lol:

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Peeman wrote:If we have a song calling them Jews is that accepatable ?


Another point on PC - I remember a while back when you weren't supposed to call a black guy - a black guy, u were supposed to say coloured. Now I have plenty of black friends and relations and they thought calling them coloured was more offensive.
Coloured is offensive because it implies "white" people are not coloured. the correct term is black. That's not offensive :)

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Bergkamp-Genius wrote:The word y** ( /ˈjiːd/; Yiddish: ייִד)[clarification needed] is a slang Jewish ethnonym. Its usage may be controversial in modern English language. It is not usually considered offensive when pronounced /ˈjiːd/ (rhyming with deed), the way Yiddish-speakers say it, though some may deem the word offensive regardless. When pronounced /ˈjɪd/ (rhyming with did), it can generally be perceived as a pejorative—and is used as a derogatory epithet by antisemites[1] although many Jewish people use the term amongst themselves and a Jewish dating website of the same name exists.[2]
So, we can call Spurs "yeeds" then?

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Peeman wrote:If we have a song calling them Jews is that accepatable ?


Another point on PC - I remember a while back when you weren't supposed to call a black guy - a black guy, u were supposed to say coloured. Now I have plenty of black friends and relations and they thought calling them coloured was more offensive.
A lot of my family still say coloured its an old fashioned Irish thing.

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digger wrote:
Bergkamp-Genius wrote:The word y** ( /ˈjiːd/; Yiddish: ייִד)[clarification needed] is a slang Jewish ethnonym. Its usage may be controversial in modern English language. It is not usually considered offensive when pronounced /ˈjiːd/ (rhyming with deed), the way Yiddish-speakers say it, though some may deem the word offensive regardless. When pronounced /ˈjɪd/ (rhyming with did), it can generally be perceived as a pejorative—and is used as a derogatory epithet by antisemites[1] although many Jewish people use the term amongst themselves and a Jewish dating website of the same name exists.[2]
So, we can call Spurs "yeeds" then?
No...c*nts will do..... :wink:

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Deise Gooner wrote:
Peeman wrote:If we have a song calling them Jews is that accepatable ?


Another point on PC - I remember a while back when you weren't supposed to call a black guy - a black guy, u were supposed to say coloured. Now I have plenty of black friends and relations and they thought calling them coloured was more offensive.
A lot of my family still say coloured its an old fashioned Irish thing.
My two aunties were over for a funeral at the start of the year, two tipperary women. I was giving them directions and pointed over and said " you need to go where those two black guys are going". Their reaction was amazing "Jeysus be careful, you cant say that, what if they heard?"

I asked "what did i say?"

"You cant call them black, thats racist, its coloured" :lol:

I said "its bloody not anymore" :lol: and went on to explain that now coloured is no longer an accepted term.

But thats my point times have changed and with the new PC world we live in certain previously acceptable terms like "coloured" are no longer acceptable.

On the whole "Y" subject, Im like many here who used the term when refering to the scum. Like many the whole jewish thing never came into my mind, it was just a word used to insult the scum. A few years back I made a conscious decision not to use it anymore due to having jewish friends who i knew hated and took great offence to this word. I just stopped. And havent used it since.

I do also have to agree though, that until the scum are stopped using the term so freely it will never go away the way racist abuse towards blacks has. While they get away with using it the way they do nothing will change.

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