Olivier Giroud - Another Alan Smith or "Le Chapman"?

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Lol. To think that RedWumber got banned and Babagaga doesn't get the same.

Hee hee.

Pathetic arguements you have got going to try and justify your stupifying remarks.





Steve0. I concur with what you say about Henry and Dennis, re their class. Also, Giroud and his misses do concern me, however I still prefer to think that he will come on better than suggested.
Otherwise we might make a Jan swap bid for Lambert eh?

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Having broken up the original Three Stooges - Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone - I think Wenger wanted to make a sequel, hence the signing of Giroud to join Chamakh and 'adaption period' Park to complete a new comedy trio

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SteveO 35 wrote:Having broken up the original Three Stooges - Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone - I think Wenger wanted to make a sequel, hence the signing of Giroud to join Chamakh and 'adaption period' Park to complete a new comedy trio
I still remember how in January Le Fraud said that "Park's adaptation period is over and he's now ready to contribute". What a fucking wanker.

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1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Having broken up the original Three Stooges - Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone - I think Wenger wanted to make a sequel, hence the signing of Giroud to join Chamakh and 'adaption period' Park to complete a new comedy trio
I still remember how in January Le Fraud said that "Park's adaptation period is over and he's now ready to contribute". What a fucking wanker.
Does anyone know if Park is actually playing for the mighty Celta Vigo at the moment. He'll be 46 by the time his adaption period is over

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It's not the bandwagon jumping or the lack of patience, it's the fact that for far too long Wenger has done things on the very cheap when other options are available and better players ignored. Arsenal need a player that can hit the ground running, that puts in good performances from the off and wins matches. We can't afford to fuck about with bit part players or one season French league wonders. I fail to see how a manager that has bought four forwards in the last few years- Arshavin, Chamakh, Gervinho and Park- and had three of them sitting in the stands and one only making a half-decent (at best) impact can be trusted to go out and buy another of the same ilk in Giorud. When is he going to actually be told to buy a proven goalscorer who is used to the English league or who isn't a gamble? Fair enough Podolski will be a good player for Arsenal but none of the other 'forwards' he has bought in recent years have been consistently good enough to play in a trophy winning side, to turn matches or take that half-chance and turn it into a goal. I still stand by the fact that Giroud was a panic buy, signed quickly by Wenger so that they could find excuses for selling Van Persie. I'm used to non-scoring forwards at Arsenal in recent years but who the fucking hell is scouting these players and why does Wenger think that they would make a success of it at Arsenal? The French league is about a 5/10 league. Top scorer there is the same as top scorer in Scotland or Romania, meaning that you don't have to be a very good player to do that. If you have a player that can't score or who loses form quickly, or doesn't even get a game, or looks disinterested (Chamakh, Arshavin, Park).. don't buy another one that has the same kind of background.

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:It's not the bandwagon jumping or the lack of patience, it's the fact that for far too long Wenger has done things on the very cheap when other options are available and better players ignored. Arsenal need a player that can hit the ground running, that puts in good performances from the off and wins matches. We can't afford to fuck about with bit part players or one season French league wonders. I fail to see how a manager that has bought four forwards in the last few years- Arshavin, Chamakh, Gervinho and Park- and had three of them sitting in the stands and one only making a half-decent (at best) impact can be trusted to go out and buy another of the same ilk in Giorud. When is he going to actually be told to buy a proven goalscorer who is used to the English league or who isn't a gamble? Fair enough Podolski will be a good player for Arsenal but none of the other 'forwards' he has bought in recent years have been consistently good enough to play in a trophy winning side, to turn matches or take that half-chance and turn it into a goal. I still stand by the fact that Giroud was a panic buy, signed quickly by Wenger so that they could find excuses for selling Van Persie. I'm used to non-scoring forwards at Arsenal in recent years but who the fucking hell is scouting these players and why does Wenger think that they would make a success of it at Arsenal? The French league is about a 5/10 league. Top scorer there is the same as top scorer in Scotland or Romania, meaning that you don't have to be a very good player to do that. If you have a player that can't score or who loses form quickly, or doesn't even get a game, or looks disinterested (Chamakh, Arshavin, Park).. don't buy another one that has the same kind of background.
Agree with every single word buddy. Spot on

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Perryash. Agree with your comment about the quality of Wengers striker signings. Add a third to the cost of each striker purchased and we could have done significantly better.
I just want to give the bloke a fighting chance. I shall judge Giroud overall, after 20 matches or so.

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I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.

What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:

"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"

All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him. If I was a foreign player, I'd avoid the PL like I'd avoid begging junkies on the high-street. If it's not the press, it's the narrow-minded divvy fans that call you a flop before you even play (Which, Baba, you did. Before he even played, you wrote him off."

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DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.

What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:

"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"

All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him. If I was a foreign player, I'd avoid the PL like I'd avoid begging junkies on the high-street. If it's not the press, it's the narrow-minded divvy fans that call you a flop before you even play (Which, Baba, you did. Before he even played, you wrote him off."
Poor little soul

Tell me how Arteta managed to cope with the endless braindead comparisons to Fabregas and how Podolski has managed to cope with the "he was shit at Bayern and only does it for the small clubs" press rhetoric eh? How did Cesc Fabregas go on to become the envy of Europe's top clubs when in 2006 he was "too physically lightweight" and never fit to lace Vieira's boots

If the guy wanted to stay out of the fucking spotlight then he should have stayed in Ligue 1 under the radar

I'm sure the £60k+ per week wages guaranteed for 4 years and the nice seven figure 'golden hello' were nice little sweeteners. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen

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DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.

What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:

"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"

All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him. If I was a foreign player, I'd avoid the PL like I'd avoid begging junkies on the high-street. If it's not the press, it's the narrow-minded divvy fans that call you a flop before you even play (Which, Baba, you did. Before he even played, you wrote him off."
Stupidest post EVER!
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SteveO 35 wrote:
DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.

What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:

"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"

All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him. If I was a foreign player, I'd avoid the PL like I'd avoid begging junkies on the high-street. If it's not the press, it's the narrow-minded divvy fans that call you a flop before you even play (Which, Baba, you did. Before he even played, you wrote him off."
Poor little soul

Tell me how Arteta managed to cope with the endless braindead comparisons to Fabregas and how Podolski has managed to cope with the "he was shit at Bayern and only does it for the small clubs" press rhetoric eh? How did Cesc Fabregas go on to become the envy of Europe's top clubs when in 2006 he was "too physically lightweight" and never fit to lace Vieira's boots

If the guy wanted to stay out of the fucking spotlight then he should have stayed in Ligue 1 under the radar

I'm sure the £60k+ per week wages guaranteed for 4 years and the nice seven figure 'golden hello' were nice little sweeteners. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
Yeah, it's not as if everyone is different, no? Nope, everyone reacts to situations the same.

You can't judge him this early. He will hopefully learn that the British press are wankers and most fans wont judge until you are settled. I personally think he plays well. Good runs (yes he's not quick) and strong in the box, decent passes and gets himself in good positions. Once he finds his confience and form, he will be deadly in front of goal.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'll admit I'm rong. But until he gives me reason to believe he's a flop, I'll back him. Wait until he gives a reason not to.

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armchair supporter wrote:
DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.

What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:

"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"

All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him. If I was a foreign player, I'd avoid the PL like I'd avoid begging junkies on the high-street. If it's not the press, it's the narrow-minded divvy fans that call you a flop before you even play (Which, Baba, you did. Before he even played, you wrote him off."
Stupidest post EVER!
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DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.

What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:

"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"

All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him.
Yes, I understand why the pressure can get to players, but that's what separates top players from the rest - they can cope with pressure and still have the quality to perform.

As for Giroud... it's too early to make definite judgements, but so far he's been woeful. Lets hope he improves significantly, because if he could have finished those late chances this season, we'd be further up the league.

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Didn't do yourself any favours there Daryl.

Gerv scored today when he was aiming for the stands.

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Top Londoner wrote:Perryash. Agree with your comment about the quality of Wengers striker signings. Add a third to the cost of each striker purchased and we could have done significantly better.
I just want to give the bloke a fighting chance. I shall judge Giroud overall, after 20 matches or so.

I agree on both points, mate. It's daft to write a player off after a month but, it's another case of could have done so much better. Had he arrived at the club 5 years ago and been like this, we would have given him more time but it's just the weariness of having seen all this before. If Arsenal are to win anything this side of the next Haley's comet then we need to have players that don't require the old: "Needs time to settle" line.

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