POLL: WOULD YOU GIVE ARSENE WENGER A NEW CONTRACT

[armchair]

Can we please just clear something up here.
Olly Giroud was, is and always will be, shite.
"Once he finds the net"? LOL
Even Jeffers and Chamakh found the net now and then!
There's a reason this pillock gets booed on his second France appearance. There's a reason no other big team wanted him.
There's a reason he's got zero European club competition experience! At that age!
He's SHIT

OK
Why 3 options? Why not yes or no to another contract?

[DarylAFC]

Can we please just clear something up here.
Olly Giroud was, is and always will be, shite.
"Once he finds the net"? LOL
Even Jeffers and Chamakh found the net now and then!
There's a reason this pillock gets booed on his second France appearance. There's a reason no other big team wanted him.
There's a reason he's got zero European club competition experience! At that age!
He's SHIT

Oh shut up, you really do my head in.

So he doesn't score in his first 3 games and he's shit? NO other top club wanted him, so he's shite.

So Bergkamp is shite then? He didnt score right away. He wasn't wanted by top teams.

How about Henry? Is he shite?

Chelsea wanted Giroud, by the way. He chose us because, in his words, "I wasnt sure they even knew me". Deny it all you want, but whose word am I going to take? The player himself who has no reason to lie or someone on a forum who was adamant that we were going for Kalou?

[Perryashburtongroves]

No way. Let the contract expire and part ways amicably. That is what I've been hoping for since he was somehow offered a new one a few years back. He'll get a 4 year or 'however long you want' contract because it's safe and cosy for the board. Wenger doesn't trouble them, doesn't argue with them, doesn't demand anything from them and they don't have to be bothered by any of that daft, common football business. The board will just claim that he's the best man for the job, that we have to wait and see what effects that FFP nonsense will have and so on and so on.

If and I sincerely hope he isn't given a contract extension, then it must surely be incentive based. Win a trophy in a the next season and the league within two or fuck off. But, as we all know, he'll be given a new one on whatever terms he wants and for as long as he feels like it.

[armchair]

Not sure I see your point mate, sorry.

I wouldn't call Carzola, Podolski and Giroud shite. Or are you saying that based on his past dealings? In which case I agree with you there, but surely by not signing shite this time it shows that he is turning himself around.

Sorry if I missed your point pal, let me know if I have, only way I'll learn

Was basically saying that hes fcuked up this club royally and just because hes decided recently that his vanity project has failed (What many, many of us have been saying for years) does not mean anything and shouldn't justify rewarding years of abject failure with another lucritave contract.
He's finished and if the greedy, arrogant, stubborn bastard had any decency he'd have fucked off years ago or at the very least after the 8-2.

Pep for me or Moyes.

[This is our club!]

First post and my first action here is to vote a resounding no! Putting aside the fact that we do not truly compete anymore, I think my main reason is the utter contempt he seems to hold supporters of this club in. He is not alone in this as this is a trait that runs throughout the hierarchy of the club but as a lifelong supporter I am sick of being made to feel I don't belong to this club anymore and I feel he is a large part of the problem. I once met him and was in awe of him, now I cannot even bear to listen to him anymore. Enough is enough, this is not Arsene FC this is Arsenal FC!

[Gunnersaurus]

Can we please just clear something up here.
Olly Giroud was, is and always will be, shite.
"Once he finds the net"? LOL
Even Jeffers and Chamakh found the net now and then!
There's a reason this pillock gets booed on his second France appearance. There's a reason no other big team wanted him.
There's a reason he's got zero European club competition experience! At that age!
He's SHIT

Oh shut up, you really do my head in.

So he doesn't score in his first 3 games and he's shit? NO other top club wanted him, so he's shite.

So Bergkamp is shite then? He didnt score right away. He wasn't wanted by top teams.

How about Henry? Is he shite?

Chelsea wanted Giroud, by the way. He chose us because, in his words, "I wasnt sure they even knew me". Deny it all you want, but whose word am I going to take? The player himself who has no reason to lie or someone on a forum who was adamant that we were going for Kalou?

[silus]

Babatunde,

The club only need to point to season ticket sales to back up their argument that there is still big support for Wenger.
surely if people are willing to pay for matches up to a year in advance what greater show of support for the manager can there be?

As I have said before the REAL AKBs are the season ticket holders although a lot of these probably don't realise it.

I am a season ticket holder, I voted no.
I will continue to support the team and attend matches because it is something that I love doing.
I support arsenal....not wenger
I know some people think that this is lining the boards pockets but i refuse to be driven out even though Im sure the club would be happier with tourists, jcls etc in the ground. Personally I think the more people anti wenger/board in the ground voicing their opinion the better.
If people think that non attendance is hurting the board I think it is playing into their hands, but i wouldnt call them mugs for not going...everyone is entitled to their own opinions and actions.
Dont understand people getting slated for going to matches.

[Babatunde]

Can we please just clear something up here.
Olly Giroud was, is and always will be, shite.
"Once he finds the net"? LOL
Even Jeffers and Chamakh found the net now and then!
There's a reason this pillock gets booed on his second France appearance. There's a reason no other big team wanted him.
There's a reason he's got zero European club competition experience! At that age!
He's SHIT

OK
Why 3 options? Why not yes or no to another contract?

I see your point pal, trust me. I do.
The reason for the 1 year rolling option is simple really, as there are 2 likely outcomes from this:

Outcome 1: AW throws a hissy fit as he's actually given a set of targets and no instant job security. Realising he might have to actually fucking win something, he walks away, Arsenal win.

Outcome 2: AW, realising his desperation to keep his cushty little £7 mil a year + farce going, and fully aware that he will never ever get anyone to so stupidly pay him that amount again, decides to go full pelt and actually spend serious money in the market on Falcao, Schweinsteiger and Goetze.

Although knowing Wenker, he will spend £25 mil on Boubacar Sanogo from Bastia

[Babatunde]

Can we please just clear something up here.
Olly Giroud was, is and always will be, shite.
"Once he finds the net"? LOL
Even Jeffers and Chamakh found the net now and then!
There's a reason this pillock gets booed on his second France appearance. There's a reason no other big team wanted him.
There's a reason he's got zero European club competition experience! At that age!
He's SHIT

Oh shut up, you really do my head in.

So he doesn't score in his first 3 games and he's shit? NO other top club wanted him, so he's shite.

So Bergkamp is shite then? He didnt score right away. He wasn't wanted by top teams.

How about Henry? Is he shite?

Chelsea wanted Giroud, by the way. He chose us because, in his words, "I wasnt sure they even knew me". Deny it all you want, but whose word am I going to take? The player himself who has no reason to lie or someone on a forum who was adamant that we were going for Kalou?

I am really sick and tired of this absolute drivel.

Oh bla bla 'Berkamp must be shite' since it took him ages to score bla bla.
Oh PLEASE. Invoking Bergkamp's great name to justofy this piece of turd is nonsense. For a start, Bergkamp was never an out and out striker whose job is to score goals alone.

Henry? Again, he was learning a new position and was younger than Giroud. Henry had also already proved he had it in his locker, when he was TOP SCORER FOR THE TEAM THAT WON THE WORLD CUP

Bergkamp was a massive signing, a club record, everyone knew who he was and Inter, a huge club, had taken a punt on him but it hadn't worked out. So please, don't abuse the usage of your two brain cells with such bilge.

'Chelsea wanted Giroud'
LMFAO. This has been proven to be categorical bollocks by the by, ROn Gourlay at Chelski laughed at the suggestion. Yes, I am really sure the club that lost Didier Drogba and were looking for the best were really after Giroud.
In which case I take it that Kevin Mirallas snubbed Arsenal for Everton then yes? Or will you choose to ignore that snippet

Giroud is someone I have watched play several several times. He is a target man. He isn't a playmaking number 10 with a deft touch who also scored the odd goal, as Bergkamp did. It shows what a baseless knowledge of football you truly possess, comparing a target man number 9 with a great number 10 and goalscoring

Giroud is the French Grant Holt. His job is to be a big lump up front and SCORE GOALS. The only person judging him on 3 games in the PL is you, and the Arsene lovers. I am judging him on the dozens of matches I saw him play at Tours, then at Montpellier. He might have top scored in Ligue 1 but then again, so did Guivarch, Kevin Gameiro, Gignac and Pierre-Alain Frau. All shite players.

Giroud is like Grant Holt (minus the ability to score a few in a big league). He's already performed like complete dog turd in the opening three PL games and missed absolute sitters in EVERY single game he's played. As if to reinforce that this is no accident, he then went to play with France and was torrid, missed his customary sitter and played like shite.

Only difference being, the France fans didn't come out with comical bollocks excuses like 'Oh Trezeguet never scored in his first debut game , does that mean he was shit bla bla'

Giroud is shite. I hope for his sake that he scores a couple of goals, and I'm sure you'll be smug after he's buried a hat-trick in the Carling Cup against Bury Town....

[QuartzGooner]

I would let him see out his contract and appoint a new manager from 2014.

I have not voted, simply because my voting option would be "No - but in the unlikely event we win a title because Steve Bould's coaching is excellent then why change a winning managerial team".

I would not sack Wenger now, there is no way I want the club to pay him off for work he has not done, and I actually think it will benefit the club to have Steve Bould around as coach for a couple of seasons and see what he can do.

It might be that against all my expectations, Bould actually does make an impact because Wenger allows him to make an impact, and so thoughts could turn to whether Bould should be successor, or remain as coach if he prefers that role.

[LDB]

Giroud is someone I have watched play several several times. He is a target man. He isn't a playmaking number 10 with a deft touch who also scored the odd goal, as Bergkamp did. It shows what a baseless knowledge of football you truly possess, comparing a target man number 9 with a great number 10 and goalscoring

Out of curiosity mate are you french or is french football just a fetish of yours despite the fact you dont seem to rate any of the players?

[mcdowell42]

Giroud is someone I have watched play several several times. He is a target man. He isn't a playmaking number 10 with a deft touch who also scored the odd goal, as Bergkamp did. It shows what a baseless knowledge of football you truly possess, comparing a target man number 9 with a great number 10 and goalscoring

Out of curiosity mate are you french or is french football just a fetish of yours despite the fact you dont seem to rate any of the players?

When he started posting here 1st he said he was half or a third French but whatever he is he's always right FACT

[richpye]

We wouldn't get any of the names being thrown around on here. Just going out and employing the next "name" on the list isn't going to happen at Arsenal. Regardless of how people interpret the Arsenal "brand", the club aren't going to change that by employing someone who might not follow their ideas.

How would you feel if they gave it to someone like Steve Bould? Same money to spend/not spend and the same squad. Would you be happy with that?

Jurgen Klopp is not a big name, and I would have him in an absolute heartbeat. Would not think twice about it, he's basically btich-slapped the mighty Bayern, and actually develops quality young players (unlike Wenger) and most of all, HE WINS TROPHIES. Back to back Bundesligas and a wage bill that's under £35 million. That's bloody unreal management.

The AKBs do make me laugh though. On the one hand, they spend their whole time claiming that Lord Arsene has been shafted by the board, 'his hands are tied' and 'Kroenke is sending his rep through the shitter'. And yet, if and when Wenker signs this new contract what will that tell you!

Would a person being held hostage in a dark basement seek out their kdinapper once liberated, and ask them to hold them hostage AGAIN? Course bloody not! It's a farce
Wenger will renew because there is not another single club in Europe that would ever entertain paying a manager over £70 million in wages for 10 years of failure.

I will repeat this: IF WENGER MANAGES ARSENAL UNTIL 2014 HE WILL HAVE RAKED IN OVER £70 MILLION IN WAGES TO OVERSEE A CLUB THAT HAS NOT EVEN MANAGED A TOP 2 FINISH INNINE YEARS LET ALONE A SINGLE TROPHY OF ANY NOTE.

The list of managers who have better trophy records than Wenger since he last won one is comical.
Gazidis interview is possibly the biggest PR own goal I have ever seen, it's simply far too easy to discredit the utter bullshit that comes out of his inane trap.

Two things here.

1) Name a single player that Klopp has developed in full? i.e. Which player has he brought from Mainz in 2008 and developed over the past 3 years?
Klopp has no doubt done well, but the success of Dortmund has been brought about by a youth development strategy that has been producing players for decades. Hmmm a Youth Policy that takes decades to build and develop you say, one that allows a club to grow organically and to be able to compete against the european heavyweights (e.g Bayern Munich???), sounds a bit like what Wenger is trying to set up, No???
Oh yeah, and didn't Dortmund (sorry I mean Klopp) sell their best player this summer (Kagawa)

Essentially a vote for Klopp, is a vote for Wenger as their strategies are both the same.

2) Fundamentally you still don't get this top 2 issue do you? There is no way in a million years anyone could have predicted the growth of Chelsea and Man City when we embarked on the Emirates project. There just wasn't an example in European football that people really knew about at the time the project was planned and began to be implemented. Now these teams have affected Arsenal's results it's a simple and for you inconvenient truth.
Yes it's annoying and there's no doubt we haven't helped ourselves with some of the activity in the transfer market (and most importantly some of the contracts we have agreed with players)

Do I think FFP or the renegotiation of our commercial deals will have an effect? Yes, they definitely will. Will they have enough effect? Not sure..
Personally I am of the school of thought that says we should be speculating a little (short term losses of £20-£25 million for the next two years would not be disastrous if the commerical deals are worthwhile)

p.s. I voted "No" before you ask, or denounce my viewpoint in some condescending and rude manner that has become your staple diet since you joined.
Why? Quite simply Wenger will stay in 2 years if we want him to regardless of whether he signs/is offered a new contract now. He's not of the age where another club project would be that attractive to him, so as it stands we hold all the aces in this particular hand. And if we decide a change is needed in 2 years then we can do so

[StuartL]

First post and my first action here is to vote a resounding no! Putting aside the fact that we do not truly compete anymore, I think my main reason is the utter contempt he seems to hold supporters of this club in. He is not alone in this as this is a trait that runs throughout the hierarchy of the club but as a lifelong supporter I am sick of being made to feel I don't belong to this club anymore and I feel he is a large part of the problem. I once met him and was in awe of him, now I cannot even bear to listen to him anymore. Enough is enough, this is not Arsene FC this is Arsenal FC!

Welcome, very succinct first post, which I would suggest sums up nicely the position for many of us.

How a manager, who has overseen our greatest team ever can allow it to disintegrate before his very eyes into an inept, half hearted bunch of pussies, is beyond my comprehension.

[Babatunde]

Babatunde,

The club only need to point to season ticket sales to back up their argument that there is still big support for Wenger.
surely if people are willing to pay for matches up to a year in advance what greater show of support for the manager can there be?

As I have said before the REAL AKBs are the season ticket holders although a lot of these probably don't realise it.

I am a season ticket holder, I voted no.
I will continue to support the team and attend matches because it is something that I love doing.
I support arsenal....not wenger
I know some people think that this is lining the boards pockets but i refuse to be driven out even though Im sure the club would be happier with tourists, jcls etc in the ground. Personally I think the more people anti wenger/board in the ground voicing their opinion the better.
If people think that non attendance is hurting the board I think it is playing into their hands, but i wouldnt call them mugs for not going...everyone is entitled to their own opinions and actions.
Dont understand people getting slated for going to matches.

You raise good points. But ultimately, paying for STs is what the board want. And though you're right that if the anti-Wenger brigade sing up it will get better for us, how often does this actually happen? It took the Oxlade sub for people to finally voice discontent. It only took what....7 years?

It's not about driving you out. I completely respect your reasons behind buying your ST, but sorry the only thing the board thinks when they see the STs come in is that Wenger can do no wrong. Other clubs also organise economic boycotts of their clubs when they're not happy and voice discontent by voting with their feet. Remember when every single ST holder at Anfield stayed away from the Hodgson Liverpool game at home to Wolves, when less than 25,00 was it, turned up?
What happened the following week?
Hodgson sacked. By Yanks.
They only understand one thing these capitalist swines like Kroenke and it's the buck my friend.
Scream as many anti-Wenger songs as you like but, so long as you are paying inside the ground, for the privilege of doing so, then like those green and gold Manure fans the Glazers laughed at; Kroenke will laugh at the comedy scene of protests that effectively line his pockets.

Wenger MUST GO.