There are idiots at every football club, but lets not get away from the fact that a significant proportion of chelsea's older fan base have had right wing views for decades. Whenever i've heard the anti semetic stuff sung by gooners its normally kids that dont know what they are singing.barnetgooner wrote:I hate Chelsea as much as the next man but I was in the whl away end and there were not insignificant numbers of arsenal fans singing "I've got foreskin haven't you...fcking Jew"
I don't think we can congratulate ourselves too much on being so much better than Chelsea while stuff like that is going on.
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nut flush gooner wrote:There are idiots at every football club, but lets not get away from the fact that a significant proportion of chelsea's older fan base have had right wing views for decades. Whenever i've heard the anti semetic stuff sung by gooners its normally kids that dont know what they are singing.barnetgooner wrote:I hate Chelsea as much as the next man but I was in the whl away end and there were not insignificant numbers of arsenal fans singing "I've got foreskin haven't you...fcking Jew"
I don't think we can congratulate ourselves too much on being so much better than Chelsea while stuff like that is going on.
Think also that the significant difference is that from Gooners it is anti- tiny totts, which isn't to excuse it but I don't think it would exist at all in our fanbase if they didn't.
For example we have played Ajax a couple of times in the Champions League and as far as I can remember nothing anti-semtic was heared / voiced.
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Nice post from a bloke who was in school with my wife on Facebook which goes something like this to the 5 who are watching this game on tv hope you can see me I'm the black bloke in the Matthew Harding stand south
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This has been said by one or two over the years and yet virtually no one has heard it . I bet i can guess your religon , move on !!! We are not Chelsea !barnetgooner wrote:I hate Chelsea as much as the next man but I was in the whl away end and there were not insignificant numbers of arsenal fans singing "I've got foreskin haven't you...fcking Jew"
I don't think we can congratulate ourselves too much on being so much better than Chelsea while stuff like that is going on.
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StuartL wrote:
There are idiots at every football club, but lets not get away from the fact that a significant proportion of chelsea's older fan base have had right wing views for decades. Whenever i've heard the anti semetic stuff sung by gooners its normally kids that dont know what they are singing.
Think also that the significant difference is that from Gooners it is anti- tiny totts, which isn't to excuse it but I don't think it would exist at all in our fanbase if they didn't.
For example we have played Ajax a couple of times in the Champions League and as far as I can remember nothing anti-semtic was heared / voiced.[/quote]
Fair points, I would be interested to see what chants there would be if we played an Israeli team, quite possibly none...
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StuartL wrote:
There are idiots at every football club, but lets not get away from the fact that a significant proportion of chelsea's older fan base have had right wing views for decades. Whenever i've heard the anti semetic stuff sung by gooners its normally kids that dont know what they are singing.
Think also that the significant difference is that from Gooners it is anti- tiny totts, which isn't to excuse it but I don't think it would exist at all in our fanbase if they didn't.
For example we have played Ajax a couple of times in the Champions League and as far as I can remember nothing anti-semtic was heared / voiced.[/quote]
Fair points, I would be interested to see what chants there would be if we played an Israeli team, quite possibly none...
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Fair points, I would be interested to see what chants there would be if we played an Israeli team, quite possibly none...StuartL wrote:
There are idiots at every football club, but lets not get away from the fact that a significant proportion of chelsea's older fan base have had right wing views for decades. Whenever i've heard the anti semetic stuff sung by gooners its normally kids that dont know what they are singing
Think also that the significant difference is that from Gooners it is anti- tiny totts, which isn't to excuse it but I don't think it would exist at all in our fanbase if they didn't.
For example we have played Ajax a couple of times in the Champions League and as far as I can remember nothing anti-semtic was heared / voiced.
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Chelsea are have identified 3 racists involved in the Paris incident and have banned them for life.
A fourth has been offered a 1 year extension on his contract !
Always have been scum always will be .........BTW Baba the leader of C18 was Charlie Sergeant who unfortunately was an Arsenal fan but didn't attend many matches and had to stay away for good after he was outed on TV .
The BNP/NF never took off with us and we fought them tooth and nail !
However I would suggest that if anyone is of a delicate nature and seriously offended by the ridiculous but harmless "I've got a foreskin haven't you" then perhaps they shouldn't attend football matches .
A fourth has been offered a 1 year extension on his contract !
Always have been scum always will be .........BTW Baba the leader of C18 was Charlie Sergeant who unfortunately was an Arsenal fan but didn't attend many matches and had to stay away for good after he was outed on TV .
The BNP/NF never took off with us and we fought them tooth and nail !
However I would suggest that if anyone is of a delicate nature and seriously offended by the ridiculous but harmless "I've got a foreskin haven't you" then perhaps they shouldn't attend football matches .
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UN- Feckin' believable.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31575913
"Richard Barklie said he had travelled to Chelsea matches for more than 20 years "without incident"
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Chelsea suspend two more fans
Punish them, says Paris Metro victim
An ex-police officer and Chelsea fan has apologised for his part in an alleged racist incident on the Paris Metro - but has denied he is a racist.
Richard Barklie, 50, of Carrickfergus, County Antrim, was identified as one of the people sought by the Met Police.
In a statement, he denied racist chanting and said he wanted to explain the context of the incident to police.
Chelsea Football Club has barred five fans after a video showed a black man being prevented from boarding a train.
Mr Barklie, an ex-Royal Ulster Constabulary and Police Service of Northern Ireland officer, is currently a director with a human rights organisation - the World Human Rights Forum - and has also worked supporting victims of the Troubles.
Belfast solicitor Kevin Winters issued a statement on behalf of the Chelsea season ticket-holder.
In it he said Mr Barklie:
had been involved in an "incident" in which a man - identified as Souleymane S - was "unable to enter part of the train"
had not taken part in racist singing and "condemns any behaviour supporting that"
had contacted the Met Police to "explain the context and circumstances" and wanted to "put on record his total abhorrence for racism"
wanted to state his "sincerest apologies for the trauma and stress suffered by Mr Souleymane"
went to the match alone and did not know anyone shown in the video
had travelled to games for more than 20 years "without incident" and had never been part of any "group or faction" of Chelsea fans"
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Ohhh that's all right then fella - You carry on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31575913
"Richard Barklie said he had travelled to Chelsea matches for more than 20 years "without incident"
Continue reading the main story
Related Stories
Images released of Paris Chelsea fans
Chelsea suspend two more fans
Punish them, says Paris Metro victim
An ex-police officer and Chelsea fan has apologised for his part in an alleged racist incident on the Paris Metro - but has denied he is a racist.
Richard Barklie, 50, of Carrickfergus, County Antrim, was identified as one of the people sought by the Met Police.
In a statement, he denied racist chanting and said he wanted to explain the context of the incident to police.
Chelsea Football Club has barred five fans after a video showed a black man being prevented from boarding a train.
Mr Barklie, an ex-Royal Ulster Constabulary and Police Service of Northern Ireland officer, is currently a director with a human rights organisation - the World Human Rights Forum - and has also worked supporting victims of the Troubles.
Belfast solicitor Kevin Winters issued a statement on behalf of the Chelsea season ticket-holder.
In it he said Mr Barklie:
had been involved in an "incident" in which a man - identified as Souleymane S - was "unable to enter part of the train"
had not taken part in racist singing and "condemns any behaviour supporting that"
had contacted the Met Police to "explain the context and circumstances" and wanted to "put on record his total abhorrence for racism"
wanted to state his "sincerest apologies for the trauma and stress suffered by Mr Souleymane"
went to the match alone and did not know anyone shown in the video
had travelled to games for more than 20 years "without incident" and had never been part of any "group or faction" of Chelsea fans"
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Ohhh that's all right then fella - You carry on




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Condemnation of this behavior has been widespread across the footballing community. Top representatives of all of the clubs have spoken out against this behavior and have called for strong punishment for the offenders.
In Liverpool they openly stated that this behavior was unacceptable in modern society and that the offenders have no idea how disrespectful their actions were toward the families of the 96.

In Liverpool they openly stated that this behavior was unacceptable in modern society and that the offenders have no idea how disrespectful their actions were toward the families of the 96.


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SPUDMASHER wrote:Condemnation of this behavior has been widespread across the footballing community. Top representatives of all of the clubs have spoken out against this behavior and have called for strong punishment for the offenders.
In Liverpool they openly stated that this behavior was unacceptable in modern society and that the offenders have no idea how disrespectful their actions were toward the families of the 96.
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Posted this on another thread, but it fits here too;

I actually nearly had an irony overload when the camera zoomed in on one particular chav player during the warm up. Well, it turned out to be none other than uber-racist and all round cuntbag John Terry wearing an anti-racism t-shirt no less!
It was like seeing a photo of Adolf Hitler wearing a yarmulke.

Too far?

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However shocking this incident was; in the cold light of day does it really compare to raising your voice in frustration towards at a 65yr old father of one who's just trying to board a train after he's had a bad day at work?
I think not
I think not

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Thats all correct mate, by the way hes now doing life......Herd wrote:Chelsea are have identified 3 racists involved in the Paris incident and have banned them for life.
A fourth has been offered a 1 year extension on his contract !
Always have been scum always will be .........BTW Baba the leader of C18 was Charlie Sergeant who unfortunately was an Arsenal fan but didn't attend many matches and had to stay away for good after he was outed on TV .
The BNP/NF never took off with us and we fought them tooth and nail !
However I would suggest that if anyone is of a delicate nature and seriously offended by the ridiculous but harmless "I've got a foreskin haven't you" then perhaps they shouldn't attend football matches .
Yes a few like him who defected to Chelsea on Political preference
But will say i always thought there was just disinterest and indifference towards their message....which made them fade away
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You can argue that most of the chant is ridiculous and harmless, not sure about the 'fcking Jew' at the end though. (2.52 on this video for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PGsGzQ_lp0 )Herd wrote:
However I would suggest that if anyone is of a delicate nature and seriously offended by the ridiculous but harmless "I've got a foreskin haven't you" then perhaps they shouldn't attend football matches .
Incidentally media focus is currently shifting to West Ham for this exact chant http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31586198