Wenger Out protest thread

[Bradywasking]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..

[REB]

Was wondering if posting the forum link on Twitter was a good idea, as now the world (esp AFC) can see all that is being discussed on here.

Highbury Harold tweeting about it now , he has a good twitter following , as in the right people and not thousands of twats like the aftv wankers.

[augie]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..

He, the club and the meeja will argue that he/they have given us a shiny new ground without any drop-off in league standards (in that we still make top 4 - what that little fact ignores, is that every single season le cock gives us an unbalanced team/squad, with no leadership on and off the pitch, with absolutely zero tactical acumen, and without showing any sign that they recognize what's not working much less being able to change it The fact is that since 2006 we have been declining on the pitch to the point that we are not even good enough to challenge a team like Leicester to win the league Yes it is a much bigger decline since the latter highbury teams, but to my mind all we need to do is show that we are declining year after year, instead of pointing out that we are no longer as good as the only team to go unbeaten in a 38 game league season in English football history

[Almunia is a clown]

Arsenal supporters have organised the details & called for a march against Wenger remaining as manager & given out the details & date.

If some armchair generals want the details. location or date changed just to suit their views or procrastinations, please post somewhere else or organise your own protest, the details have already been arranged so either turn up to protest or go do your own thing!

The protest is already arranged so please get on the march, or meet up with the march on the way, or protest in the ground , whatever protest or demonstration you wish to use is all pressure on the club.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..

Absolutely. He fucking loved the fact that Chelsea got bankrolled by Abromovich. It gave him an excuse to do whatever he wanted, especially his horrific youth project. He created a myth that nobody could challenge Chelsea but ignored the fact that Fergie and Man Utd finished above them regularly. Wanker was happy to accept third or fourth just as long as he got to do things his way. He accepted failure, almost encouraging a loser mentality when he should have been demanding more. My utter disgust for the man stems from the fact that he didn't use his influence at the club to demand more. He has had full control at the club for about 12-13 years, I'd say, and should have been demanding that money was made available to improve the team-if it was ever even an issue. He should have been telling the board to put their hands in their pockets or demanding that Osmanov was allowed to invest and join the board. Winning should have been all that mattered to him. He should have been demanding that he was given the resources to compete. As it is, he sat there lapping it all up, fucking loving the ego-trip he was on, doing exactly what he wanted with no pressure and an excuse always to hand. The man is a selfish narcissist who, like every dictator, needs absolute power and constant adulation or it's tantrum time. The very fact that he is even considering signing a new contract is proof that he's in it purely for himself when the word knows that he's a failure, a fraud and a never-has-been. He needs to be driven out of the club. No matter what it takes, do it.

[mzk90]

Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..

Bang on imo

[markyp]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..

Absolutely. He fucking loved the fact that Chelsea got bankrolled by Abromovich. It gave him an excuse to do whatever he wanted, especially his horrific youth project. He created a myth that nobody could challenge Chelsea but ignored the fact that Fergie and Man Utd finished above them regularly. Wanker was happy to accept third or fourth just as long as he got to do things his way. He accepted failure, almost encouraging a loser mentality when he should have been demanding more. My utter disgust for the man stems from the fact that he didn't use his influence at the club to demand more. He has had full control at the club for about 12-13 years, I'd say, and should have been demanding that money was made available to improve the team-if it was ever even an issue. He should have been telling the board to put their hands in their pockets or demanding that Osmanov was allowed to invest and join the board. Winning should have been all that mattered to him. He should have been demanding that he was given the resources to compete. As it is, he sat there lapping it all up, fucking loving the ego-trip he was on, doing exactly what he wanted with no pressure and an excuse always to hand. The man is a selfish narcissist who, like every dictator, needs absolute power and constant adulation or it's tantrum time. The very fact that he is even considering signing a new contract is proof that he's in it purely for himself when the word knows that he's a failure, a fraud and a never-has-been. He needs to be driven out of the club. No matter what it takes, do it.

some good points chaps,especially perryashburtongroves point about loving the fact that Chelsea had Abromovich bank roll them,its been like a stick to continously beat us with ever since and given wenger the protection to make him unanswerable to his failings

[silus]

Mzk90...I've seen your tweet about the protest, good work. Seems decent amount of support so far.

Obviously some disagreement as well.
"You should concentrate on supporting the team in the ground, as it's the only chance we have of going through"
And "don't try it or you'll get your faces smashed in"

[Pete on the beach]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..[/quote


I think the Highbury meet is good specifically as it's a chance to start off and assess the numbers without being in the full glare of being in front of the stadium and initially exposed. The symbolism behind it should be largely left unsaid , people can figure it out for themselves , certainly no chants or anything about it, in that way I agree with BS, the msg should be about one thing only no new contract for Wenger, in fact I would go so far as to say no 'Wenger out' chants just ' no new contract' as I said before this cuts out the risk of us sounding overtly aggressive which will stand a better chance of us picking up some of the silent majority and waverers who are crucial to turning the heat up.

Remember the most important thing is to cut down the risk of the silent majority reinforcing with pro Wenger comments otherwise we are cooked

[Bob Bayliss]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..[/quote


I think the Highbury meet is good specifically as it's a chance to start off and assess the numbers without being in the full glare of being in front of the stadium and initially exposed. The symbolism behind it should be largely left unsaid , people can figure it out for themselves , certainly no chants or anything about it, in that way I agree with BS, the msg should be about one thing only no new contract for Wenger, in fact I would go so far as to say no 'Wenger out' chants just ' no new contract' as I said before this cuts out the risk of us sounding overtly aggressive which will stand a better chance of us picking up some of the silent majority and waverers who are crucial to turning the heat up.

Remember the most important thing is to cut down the risk of the silent majority reinforcing with pro Wenger comments otherwise we are cooked

I'm all for keeping it classy and respectful, but anything we come out with has to have some impact, and it has to mention the man's name so that the object of our protest is unequivocal, "No new contract" might mean anyone from Ozil to Gunnersaurus (ok, a bit tongue in cheek....but you get my point).

My own suggestion for a core chant, which I've floated before, is
"Au revoir, au revoir, Arsene Wenger
Au revoir, au revoir, we say
Au revoir, au revoir, Arsene Wenger
Cause you know you've got to go in May"

[Bob Bayliss]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..[/quote


I think the Highbury meet is good specifically as it's a chance to start off and assess the numbers without being in the full glare of being in front of the stadium and initially exposed. The symbolism behind it should be largely left unsaid , people can figure it out for themselves , certainly no chants or anything about it, in that way I agree with BS, the msg should be about one thing only no new contract for Wenger, in fact I would go so far as to say no 'Wenger out' chants just ' no new contract' as I said before this cuts out the risk of us sounding overtly aggressive which will stand a better chance of us picking up some of the silent majority and waverers who are crucial to turning the heat up.

Remember the most important thing is to cut down the risk of the silent majority reinforcing with pro Wenger comments otherwise we are cooked

I'm all for keeping it classy and non abusive, but anything we come out with has to have some impact and it definitely has to mention the man's name so that the object of our protest is unequivocal. "No new contract" might mean anyone from Ozil to Gunnersaurus (ok, a bit tongue in cheek....but hopefully you get my point). If we're too timid to mention his name for fear of upsetting any of his remaining luvvies, we might as well not turn up.

My own suggestion for a core chant, which I've floated before, is
"Au revoir, au revoir, Arsene Wenger
Au revoir, au revoir, we say
Au revoir, au revoir, Arsene Wenger
Cause you know you've got to go in May"

[Pete on the beach]

Might be just a small point, but I think that this walking from highbury "to symbolize leaving the old ground", is only going to muddy the waters and cause confusion - my feeling is that this is a protest against giving wenker a new contract and a call for a new manager to be appointed, so where we play and where we used to play has absolutely zero to do with that. Going with an agenda about "moving to the emirates to compete with the elite" or anything along those lines will only raise questions about our expectations - our protest should, in my opinion anyway, be built around the inability of a manager to recognize and correct problems which are being repeated season after season, and a manager that seems incapable of motivating or tactically organizing a team, and a manager whose methods are outdated and redundant in this era.

I think the leaving of Highbury is very relevant to the protest..We left Highbury under Wenger to take us that last step to European glory..The fact that we are not competing at the top domestically and in Europe is the result of a broken promise.
Wenger was the one that advocated the move, he wanted his new stadium to raise us to the top level..The broken promises are systematic of Arsenal 2006-2017 under Wenger..We didn't just stop competing because of the Stadium, we stopped competing because Wenger and Arsenal went into a comfort zone based on the new wealth at Chelsea. He convinced himself that we couldn't compete with them so we didn't bother trying.
So to me Highbury to the Emirates is not the reason for the malaise but it is a parallel with it.
So I would start the march at Highbury it would send out the message to Wenger (or it should hopefully) that this is where we were, this is where we are. You promised us better and you haven't delivered.
Instead you have let this great Club decline.You have wilfully neglected your duty to the Club and the supporters.It is now time for you to go..We cannot have Highbury back but we want our Arsenal back..[/quote


I think the Highbury meet is good specifically as it's a chance to start off and assess the numbers without being in the full glare of being in front of the stadium and initially exposed. The symbolism behind it should be largely left unsaid , people can figure it out for themselves , certainly no chants or anything about it, in that way I agree with BS, the msg should be about one thing only no new contract for Wenger, in fact I would go so far as to say no 'Wenger out' chants just ' no new contract' as I said before this cuts out the risk of us sounding overtly aggressive which will stand a better chance of us picking up some of the silent majority and waverers who are crucial to turning the heat up.

Remember the most important thing is to cut down the risk of the silent majority reinforcing with pro Wenger comments otherwise we are cooked

I'm all for keeping it classy and non abusive, but anything we come out with has to have some impact and it definitely has to mention the man's name so that the object of our protest is unequivocal. "No new contract" might mean anyone from Ozil to Gunnersaurus (ok, a bit tongue in cheek....but hopefully you get my point). If we're too timid to mention his name for fear of upsetting any of his remaining luvvies, we might as well not turn up.

My own suggestion for a core chant, which I've floated before, is
"Au revoir, au revoir, Arsene Wenger
Au revoir, au revoir, we say
Au revoir, au revoir, Arsene Wenger
Cause you know you've got to go in May"

Fair points

I'm just being cautious about the masses who moan like hell but then go back to him at the first sign of dissent , had some to day do this in response to my informing them of this protest

[OneBardGooner]

Is the rumour true that someone is taking an effigy of Ty to burn at the end???

Maybe we could actually use Ty.

[OneBardGooner]

Mzk90...I've seen your tweet about the protest, good work. Seems decent amount of support so far.

Obviously some disagreement as well.
"You should concentrate on supporting the team in the ground, as it's the only chance we have of going through"
And "don't try it or you'll get your faces smashed in"

Yet another keyboard warrior...scumcunt.

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