Manchester City (N) | FA Cup SF | Sun 23 Apr 15:00

[Gunner Rob]

ok here is a thought.
Wenger as we all know is more obsessed with the top 4 than the FA Cup (no matter what he would have you believe)

Would he be arrogant enough then to rest players for Leicester City on Wednesday ?
Possible.

[DB10GOONER]

I always want us to win , I can't help that its been 50 years plus of supporting the team ,which makes me part of the problem according to the self appointed leader of the rebels !
But yes don't think winning or losing will make much difference to Wengers longevity but a bum-holing could see ugly scenes !

Fuck yeah, mate. I cannot bring myself to ever want The Arsenal to lose and I've NEVER bought into this horseshit that us losing games would be of long term benefit to the club as it would see Wenger sacked. It won't. At any other big club with ambitious owners it would see him sacked but not with Wiggy at The Arsenal. And there are people on here that will tell you the one man with the actual power (THE OWNER) to sack Wenger is not part of the problem because he made some money available from the club's own accounts, not his accounts, but the club's accounts, let's not forget. And what is this delusion that just bringing in another manager who will spend all the money will fix everything? It won't, not while we have an OWNER that is interested in money only, not football. In this instance, the issue is not that Wenger didn't spend all the money, Wenger is an egotistical has-been incapable of managing at the top level in the modern game and we all know that, the issue is that the OWNER did not sack Wenger for failing in his duty as manager. You could not make it up.

For Wenger to get sacked we would need to get relegated and even then there would be calls for him to be given the "chance to put things right..." And tbh the club would be in tatters if it got relegated. Would relegation be worth it to get rid of Wenger? Not for me. I suppose that makes me an AKB and part of the problem though... honestly could not give a fuck - I know where my line in the sand is.

I'm all for the protests and fully support and respect what the likes of Jumpers For Goalposts, xsistential, Pete on the beach, mattyb, mzk90but and a few others have done, but some of the self-aggrandising freedom fighters involved need to wake the fuck up.

[NickF]

I always want us to win , I can't help that its been 50 years plus of supporting the team ,which makes me part of the problem according to the self appointed leader of the rebels !

No it doesn't.
Wanting him to leave but doing nothing about it makes people part of the problem (no idea if you fall into that category).

[Herd]

I always want us to win , I can't help that its been 50 years plus of supporting the team ,which makes me part of the problem according to the self appointed leader of the rebels !

No it doesn't.
Wanting him to leave but doing nothing about it makes people part of the problem (no idea if you fall into that category).

No its called personal choice Nick, something some you dont seem to understand !

[NickF]

I always want us to win , I can't help that its been 50 years plus of supporting the team ,which makes me part of the problem according to the self appointed leader of the rebels !

No it doesn't.
Wanting him to leave but doing nothing about it makes people part of the problem (no idea if you fall into that category).

No its called personal choice Nick, something some you dont seem to understand !

I understand very clearly, no one should be forced to stay silent or speak up, you have to do what you think is correct.

All I do know that if everyone who claims to want Wenger out did something about it, it would be very difficult for the club to ignore, which is the frustrating thing.

[Bob Bayliss]

If some of you can't bring yourselves to say that you want this mockery of a team who happen to be sent out in Arsenal colours to lose tomorrow then that's your prerogative, but I respectfully suggest that you're dodging a painful conflict of heart v head by shrugging and saying "it won't matter anyway". Most independent Wenger-watchers acknowledge that had he not got out of jail in the FA Cup semi against Wigan and then final against Hull in 2014, he would probably not have signed the last three-year contract at the end of that season. Can't prove it, of course, but I would settle for the hope that defeat will give us.

If anyone wants a less contentious reason for being ok with us losing to Citeh in the semi (which few would remember for long), it is to avoid being bumholed in the final by either Chelsea or Tottenham (which would live long in everyone's memory). That really would make me feel sick to the core, so I'd prefer to avoid its inevitability. Nobody has lost a final by more than four goals since Bury beat Derby in 1903. Can you imagine the headlines? No thank you.

So, for those reasons, I will come out and say it even if others won't. It will be a merciful relief if we lose, and can only load the dice further against him than it is now, whether by a small margin or a significant one. The other part of the equation is finishing outside the top four, and here we can no longer rely on Man United who have a clear path the the Champs League and are picking up injuries by the bucket-load. We should finish fifth, so it is probably only the FA Cup that gives TOF another excuse to cling on. If we reach the final, there is no upside.

So, once in a Blue Moon.......head 1 heart 0 for me

[Bob Bayliss]

[quote="Bob Bayliss"]If some of you can't bring yourselves to say that you want this mockery of a team who happen to be sent out in Arsenal colours to lose tomorrow then that's your prerogative, but I respectfully suggest that you're dodging a painful conflict of heart v head by shrugging and saying "it won't matter anyway". Most independent Wenger-watchers acknowledge that had he not got out of jail in the FA Cup semi against Wigan and then final against Hull in 2014, he would probably not have signed the last three-year contract at the end of that season. Can't prove it, of course, but I would settle for the hope that defeat will give us.

If anyone wants a less contentious reason for being ok with us losing to Citeh in the semi (which few would remember for long), it is to avoid being bumholed in the final by either Chelsea or Tottenham (which would live long in everyone's memory). That really would make me feel sick to the core, so I'd prefer to avoid its inevitability. Nobody has lost a final by more than four goals since Bury beat Derby in 1903. Can you imagine the headlines? No thank you.

So, for those reasons, I will come out and say it even if others won't. It will be a merciful relief if we lose, and can only load the dice further against him than it is now, whether by a small margin or a significant one. The other part of the equation is finishing outside the top four, and here we can no longer rely on Man United who have a clear path the the Champs League and are picking up injuries by the bucket-load. We should finish fifth, so it is probably only the FA Cup that gives TOF another excuse to cling on. If we reach the final, there is no upside.

So, once in a Blue Moon.......head 1 heart 0 for me.

[CloakedGooner]

I always want us to win , I can't help that its been 50 years plus of supporting the team ,which makes me part of the problem according to the self appointed leader of the rebels !

No it doesn't.
Wanting him to leave but doing nothing about it makes people part of the problem (no idea if you fall into that category).

He does. Rubbished pretty much all the ideas put forward on the protest thread

[northbank123]

To be perfectly honest I care more right now about what happens in the other semi-final.

[rich31]

I find all this wanting The Arsenal to lose thing just pointless.I want wenger gone..i want kroenke gone but when it gets to the stage where you want The Arsenal to lose then its surely just time to walk away.If you dont care if we win or lose then you arent really a "supporter" of The Arsenal anymore are you?.....Fuck off wenger, fuck off kroenke but i will never say fuck off Arsenal, just because of the current owner/ manager or on the off chance it might change the regime...I am as bloody frustrated as anyone BUT i will never want my team to lose and if you do then as i said maybe its time to walk away ,as what are you getting from it anymore?

[g88ner]

Fantastic! A Wembley semi final to look forward to . What a great opportunity to put our shite season to one side for the day and dream of winning the cup.

I know its lost its appeal to many but for me the FA cup will always be special. Even more special is that i'm taking my dad whose last trip to Wembely was the 98 final.

[General]

I for one cannot reconcile my wish to see the back of Wenger and an appetite for FA cup success knowing very well that the latter would further aid his cause. If recent media reports are anything to go by, the board fear fan backlash and are holding up the new contract so negative results and fan protests could still influence matters. I've always said that this is far from a forgone conclusion. The dinosaur has chosen self interest over the betterment of the club so why should we do any differently? Fuck him, I couldn't give a toss about the cup result. The thought of facing Spurs or Chelsea with this incompetent prick and his spineless team in tow is too frightening to even contemplate. Some delusional Arsenal fans are thinking beating Spurs in the final would compensate for another annus horribilis echoing the pathetic celebrations we saw last season after we limped past them to the line.

[Topside Northbank]

Going into a semi final and feeling absolutely nothing ATM would be my feelings never thought I would ever feel like this about Arsenal in an FA Cup semi but that is honestly how I feel.

Posted before stopped going in 2013 and even the preceding few years before then only 3-4 home games a season this Manager and board have sucked the enthusiasm out of me.

Enjoy the day out to those that go.I just want the manager gone and then the board....wishful thinking I know.

[Redarmy]

Yes despise Wenger the board most of the fans, Kronke Gazidis and all the fucking rest, sick of Ramsey, Gibbs, Giroud, Walcott and the rest of the over paid wankers.......but come Sunday at 3:00 will be praying they win as usual.....in the blood and i just cant loose it...no matter how much i try

[GranadaJoe]

If some of you can't bring yourselves to say that you want this mockery of a team who happen to be sent out in Arsenal colours to lose tomorrow then that's your prerogative, but I respectfully suggest that you're dodging a painful conflict of heart v head by shrugging and saying "it won't matter anyway". Most independent Wenger-watchers acknowledge that had he not got out of jail in the FA Cup semi against Wigan and then final against Hull in 2014, he would probably not have signed the last three-year contract at the end of that season. Can't prove it, of course, but I would settle for the hope that defeat will give us.

If anyone wants a less contentious reason for being ok with us losing to Citeh in the semi (which few would remember for long), it is to avoid being bumholed in the final by either Chelsea or Tottenham (which would live long in everyone's memory). That really would make me feel sick to the core, so I'd prefer to avoid its inevitability. Nobody has lost a final by more than four goals since Bury beat Derby in 1903. Can you imagine the headlines? No thank you.

So, for those reasons, I will come out and say it even if others won't. It will be a merciful relief if we lose, and can only load the dice further against him than it is now, whether by a small margin or a significant one. The other part of the equation is finishing outside the top four, and here we can no longer rely on Man United who have a clear path the the Champs League and are picking up injuries by the bucket-load. We should finish fifth, so it is probably only the FA Cup that gives TOF another excuse to cling on. If we reach the final, there is no upside.

So, once in a Blue Moon.......head 1 heart 0 for me

I understand your logic, but by the same reasoning you could argue that if losing to Citeh will be quickly forgotten, then it wouldn't have much impact on AW. However, a 4-0 loss to the Chavs in the final (I can't bring myself to consider it against the Scum) would be humiliating for us AND him and, coupled with a sixth or seventh placed finish, might just encourage him to fuck the fuck off.