As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Gunner Rob wrote:I think Wenger and the board have decided we are not going to overhaul City this season.
they are probably right.
therefore it makes little sense to gamble £37 million on a 20 year old midfielder.
I can just about see Wenger's point here.
the problem I have with him and most others on here is that he had 3 MONTHS to buy a top class striker last summer and FAILED TO DO THIS.
We are one fucking point behind them, not 20. There's every chance of overhauling them if we build a decent squad.
Not only that but we have them at home to play.......with a better team, we could beat them and nick the title......but if we don't even try
Wenker never goes for it, it's always "keep our powder dry" while everyone else speculates to accumulate, while he sits at home counting his piles of gold, reading through the financial fair play regulations and announcing to the world how prices will soon fall because dizzying prices cannot keep spiralling upwards and that all the premier league clubs except Arsenal will shortly go bust (he has an economics degree you know)
How can the same man who achieved such great success for nearly a decade now be citing Sanogo as a player who could potentially win us the league? It really beggars belief.
northbank123 wrote:How can the same man who achieved such great success for nearly a decade now be citing Sanogo as a player who could potentially win us the league? It really beggars belief.
ego.
i was right for six years, therefore i am always right.
ignoring the fact that he inherited the best back four of all time and the best player in the world, and since they retired he's won nothing....
i mean fair do's that he picked the cream of the best french team in history too to complement that, but we haven't won a title since Lee Dixon was right back.
I'm not sure if it's that difficult to believe if you look at from where Wenger is coming.
I guess he believes that he either wins the league like this, basically concentrating on what he has and young players - or you have to have the kind of money that City or Chelsea have and can build their kind of squads and be up there ad infinitum. He doesn't think that he'd be any better off by buying 1 or 2 players here or there.
Plus he's lost the advantages he used to have in the transfer market and wasted so much money on piles of shit, and his lack of planning and adjustment in games, his reliance on incapable players to manage the games themselves, have all added to the mix.
Wenger is a dinosaur, simples. Out of his depth & out of touch with modern football.
He had a lead on the competition when he arrived in 96, with regards to training, nutrition, scouting untapped markets etc. Everyone else & his dog has now caught up with those methods and Wenger has failed to adapt to both this & the influx of money into the game. He's done, finished. We won't win another trophy under him again.
arseofacrow wrote:his reliance on incapable players to manage the games themselves, have all added to the mix.
yup. once we lost the vision of Dennis, Keown, Adams, Paddy etc. to manage the game in-game like all great players have - beckenbaur, moore, cruyff, platini etc we became just a good team with an average manager.
i still think we have a good team, its just the management is poor.
i'm convinced that if they sacked wenger now and left bouldy in charge we'd definately pick up one trophy this year, maybe even two.
Dan_85 wrote:Wenger is a dinosaur, simples. Out of his depth & out of touch with modern football.
He had a lead on the competition when he arrived in 96, with regards to training, nutrition, scouting untapped markets etc. Everyone else & his dog has now caught up with those methods and Wenger has failed to adapt to both this & the influx of money into the game. He's done, finished. We won't win another trophy under him again.
Agreed. Not only have his once-revolutionary methods been copied at every league club in the country, he's hung up on the idea of being an innovator. Being a moral victor is more important to him than winning at all costs, being the best isn't the Holy Grail to him unless he is going to get lauded for doing it the Arsene Wenger way - by having a squad full of kids, spending fuck all, playing sublime football or whatever.
Every time a new sugardaddy comes along Wenger becomes more and more stubborn and more obsessed with bucking the trend. Ferguson must have hated having to hand over £30m for a lazy bastard like Berbatov, deal with primadonnas like Ronaldo and Nani and paying disgraceful amounts to players who had 2% of his value to the club. But he did it because it was a necessary evil and it continued to bring him huge success even with Chavs and Citeh throwing their cash about.
donny123 wrote:Wenger met him in person good man, good business ethic.. I think he's done well for the club.
Fair enough mate. He has done well for the club, great stadium and champions league football every year is something Liverpool, Spuds and Everton are all DESPERATE for.
You'll find some people on this forum are vile about wenger, having said that it is a great forum to read.
Dan_85 wrote:Wenger is a dinosaur, simples. Out of his depth & out of touch with modern football.
He had a lead on the competition when he arrived in 96, with regards to training, nutrition, scouting untapped markets etc. Everyone else & his dog has now caught up with those methods and Wenger has failed to adapt to both this & the influx of money into the game. He's done, finished. We won't win another trophy under him again.
Agreed. Not only have his once-revolutionary methods been copied at every league club in the country, he's hung up on the idea of being an innovator. Being a moral victor is more important to him than winning at all costs, being the best isn't the Holy Grail to him unless he is going to get lauded for doing it the Arsene Wenger way - by having a squad full of kids, spending fuck all, playing sublime football or whatever.
Every time a new sugardaddy comes along Wenger becomes more and more stubborn and more obsessed with bucking the trend. Ferguson must have hated having to hand over £30m for a lazy bastard like Berbatov, deal with primadonnas like Ronaldo and Nani and paying disgraceful amounts to players who had 2% of his value to the club. But he did it because it was a necessary evil and it continued to bring him huge success even with Chavs and Citeh throwing their cash about.
What he had was the extreme good fortune to arrive just as French football was becoming the best in the world, leading to a queue of quality players wanting to play for a French manager of a London club in the big-money Premier League. Ten years earlier or ten years later and he'd have been lucky to win a League Cup.
Are we allowed to be critical of Wenger again yet...? Now that we are no longer top of the league and look like having yet another disgraceful transfer window?
Dont want to give the #flipfloppers an excuse to wade in with the usual "just enjoy the moment" and "all you do is moan" crap.
Maybe we should reserve judgement until after the window closes and then when thats shit maybe we should judge him in May again....?
I've just unleashed the fury of an AKB army on Twitter by suggesting that the Ozil deal was pushed through by the board over Wenger's head Fucking hell, they didn't like that...
Dan_85 wrote:I've just unleashed the fury of an AKB army on Twitter by suggesting that the Ozil deal was pushed through by the board over Wenger's head Fucking hell, they didn't like that...
