Barcelona Second Leg Football Thread

[MK Gould]

Can we stop all this zero shots on target guff? Inter milan had zero shots on target at the nou camp last year and the amount of mourinho cock-sucking going on on this forum at the time was incredible.

There is no shame in not seeing much of the ball at the nou camp, how many teams that play there do?

We scored a goal. FACT.

Inter milan and chelsea both failed to score at the nou camp. FACT.

We were ahead in the tie after 150 minutes of football, level on the night and on the way up at the time of the sending off. FACT.

I think people are trying to convince themselves that the sending off didnt change the course of the game to avoid facing up to the fact that we were fucking robbed by a corrupt ref last night. Put your obsessions for slagging this team off to one side for a second and realise what actually happened last night.

Absolutely agree on every point!

[Eboue-Why?]

Can we stop all this zero shots on target guff? Inter milan had zero shots on target at the nou camp last year and the amount of mourinho cock-sucking going on on this forum at the time was incredible.

There is no shame in not seeing much of the ball at the nou camp, how many teams that play there do?

We scored a goal. FACT.

Inter milan and chelsea both failed to score at the nou camp. FACT.

We were ahead in the tie after 150 minutes of football, level on the night and on the way up at the time of the sending off. FACT.

I think people are trying to convince themselves that the sending off didnt change the course of the game to avoid facing up to the fact that we were fucking robbed by a corrupt ref last night. Put your obsessions for slagging this team off to one side for a second and realise what actually happened last night.

Absolutely agree on every point!

LDB, you were doing well up to the point in bold. What the fuck are you on about? Oh so the penalty Messi should have got was all part of UEFA's masterplan not to make the corrupt ref look obvious was it? Ref was shit, Wenger's tactics were shit, Cesc, Diaby, Rosciky had shit games.
Shit happens, corruption is a great excuse for Wenger's failure AGAIN against Barcelona

[xDAVEYx]

corrupt? don't be daft. embarrassing? very much so. good points otherwise squire

[franksav63]

Can we stop all this zero shots on target guff? Inter milan had zero shots on target at the nou camp last year and the amount of mourinho cock-sucking going on on this forum at the time was incredible.

There is no shame in not seeing much of the ball at the nou camp, how many teams that play there do?

We scored a goal. FACT.

Inter milan and chelsea both failed to score at the nou camp. FACT.

We were ahead in the tie after 150 minutes of football, level on the night and on the way up at the time of the sending off. FACT.

I think people are trying to convince themselves that the sending off didnt change the course of the game to avoid facing up to the fact that we were fucking robbed by a corrupt ref last night. Put your obsessions for slagging this team off to one side for a second and realise what actually happened last night.

Absolutely agree on every point!

LDB, you were doing well up to the point in bold. What the fuck are you on about? Oh so the penalty Messi should have got was all part of UEFA's masterplan not to make the corrupt ref look obvious was it? Ref was shit, Wenger's tactics were shit, Cesc, Diaby, Rosciky had shit games.
Shit happens, corruption is a great excuse for Wenger's failure AGAIN against Barcelona

I sort of understand where LDB is coming from, but Inter and the Chavs play a totally different game to us, and it's not the first time we've played and had no shots on target, I think the 2-0 loss at Chelski was another example.

Whilst you can argue that the sending off was harsh, it was a brainless thing for RVP to do, to carry on and shoot, just don't give the *word censored* of a ref an excuse to show red, also RVP must have seen the flag go up, the pass leading up to it, was on that linemans side, thickness in the extreme, and also another ready made excuse for Wenger.

[Arsenal 1991]

I think the big difference between how Inter approached their particular game at the Nou Camp and ourselves is that they went through over the two legs and we didn't.

Do you think that Inter would've gone through if they'd had a player sent off in the 55th minute. I seriously doubt it.

[LDB]

I think the big difference between how Inter approached their particular game at the Nou Camp and ourselves is that they went through over the two legs and we didn't.

Do you think that Inter would've gone through if they'd had a player sent off in the 55th minute. I seriously doubt it.

Inter had a player sent off after 27 minutes in that game

But, the point isnt to compare the games other then to dismiss the idea that having no shots on target at the nou camp equates to having played poorly. What inter did was incredible but that doesnt mean that every team should be expected to cope against a side like barca with only 10 players - especially if the sending off comes just as we were getting into the game and fundamentally altered the way the game was going.

[Robsy]

Can we stop all this zero shots on target guff? Inter milan had zero shots on target at the nou camp last year and the amount of mourinho cock-sucking going on on this forum at the time was incredible.

There is no shame in not seeing much of the ball at the nou camp, how many teams that play there do?

We scored a goal. FACT.

Inter milan and chelsea both failed to score at the nou camp. FACT.

We were ahead in the tie after 150 minutes of football, level on the night and on the way up at the time of the sending off. FACT.

I think people are trying to convince themselves that the sending off didnt change the course of the game to avoid facing up to the fact that we were fucking robbed by a corrupt ref last night. Put your obsessions for slagging this team off to one side for a second and realise what actually happened last night.

Absolutely agree on every point!

I agree on all points.

Not sure how many people were at the game yesterday. I was.

In my opinion, something very strange was going on with the ref and linesman on the dugout side. Within the first half hour all our key players in each area of the field had been booked (Kos - defence; Wilshere - midfield; RVP - up front) Personally it felt that he was very quick to book us and very slow, to the point of not booking any Barca, to pull them up on anything. The lino missed some obvious offsides that may have been missed on camera as they never resulted in a goal, but they did serve to wind up the team who became increasingly angry and frustrated at what was going on. We committed 18 fouls and picked up four bookings; they committed 9 fouls and picked up no bookings.

There was a strange drop ball situation, where the ref not only gave it straight to Barca, but gave it to them in a better position and 'on the run'.

I think if you asked most people who were there last night they would all suggest something dodgy was going on.

Yet, up until the last half hour we were going through. Whatever the final result, the way we were playing - no matter how ugly and simplistic - was actually sending us through until the sending off.

Oh and the Nou Camp atmosphere was shit. All they do is whistle or clap and only actually got behind the team when they scored or 1 minute until the final whistle. Like their team - who didn't want to give the ball back after injuries to our players - their support was classless.

[Arsenal 1991]

I think the big difference between how Inter approached their particular game at the Nou Camp and ourselves is that they went through over the two legs and we didn't.

Do you think that Inter would've gone through if they'd had a player sent off in the 55th minute. I seriously doubt it.

Inter had a player sent off after 27 minutes in that game

But, the point isnt to compare the games other then to dismiss the idea that having no shots on target at the nou camp equates to having played poorly. What inter did was incredible but that doesnt mean that every team should be expected to cope against a side like barca with only 10 players - especially if the sending off comes just as we were getting into the game and fundamentally altered the way the game was going.

Oops.

[LDB]

I think the big difference between how Inter approached their particular game at the Nou Camp and ourselves is that they went through over the two legs and we didn't.

Do you think that Inter would've gone through if they'd had a player sent off in the 55th minute. I seriously doubt it.

Inter had a player sent off after 27 minutes in that game

But, the point isnt to compare the games other then to dismiss the idea that having no shots on target at the nou camp equates to having played poorly. What inter did was incredible but that doesnt mean that every team should be expected to cope against a side like barca with only 10 players - especially if the sending off comes just as we were getting into the game and fundamentally altered the way the game was going.

Oops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwfZwdP66og

The inter sending off pretty much sums barca up

[FrenchGun]

Some people clearly need to take a grip!!!

Has Wenger got so much inside your heads that you also start to believe that we were robbed???!!!

If anything, RVP's red card gave us just the perfect excuse for our loss. The truth is barca are millions miles away from us, and regardless RVP incident, we were going to go down, even at 11vs11...

No need to look at the ref at all. We are just not good enough. We're good enough to win the PL, as we can dispose of most of the teams in the PL and this year the PL general level is quite average. But we're not good enough at EUropean level. Barca, Real, Man U, Chavs, Inter... All these teams would beat us 9 times out of 10 on the European stage. Why? We all know why... Better tactics, bigger squad, more athletic players, more experienced players, less bottlers, less passengers, less chocolate body players...

Wenger has kept going backwards since 2006 and one good example is to see how far we have gotten from a team like barca since the CL final. (Barca team in 2006 had Roni, Eto'o, Deco, Puyol, Xavi so they were already quite good)

[Robsy]

[quote="FrenchGun]If anything, RVP's red card gave us just the perfect excuse for our loss. [/quote]

...yeah, because we were winning! We were going through. If you think that with 11 people it would have been as one-sided as it turned out then you're the one who needs to get a grip.

I'm not happy with AW, but don't muddle you're hatred of him with the facts.

FACT when RVP was sent off we were ahead with 30minutes to play.

FACT they only one the two-legged match by 1 goal, scored after RVP was sent off - infact they scored 2 goals after the sending off.

[FrenchGun]

[quote="FrenchGun]If anything, RVP's red card gave us just the perfect excuse for our loss.

...yeah, because we were winning! We were going through. If you think that with 11 people it would have been as one-sided as it turned out then you're the one who needs to get a grip.

I'm not happy with AW, but don't muddle you're hatred of him with the facts.

FACT when RVP was sent off we were ahead with 30minutes to play.

FACT they only one the two-legged match by 1 goal, scored after RVP was sent off - infact they scored 2 goals after the sending off.[/quote][/quote]

Seriously? yeah i think that with 11 people it would've been as one sided as it was... Since that was already happening!!! We didn't have more occasions when RVP was there, since we had 0 OCCASSIONS! ZERO! Even before RVP was sent off, we were being openly and officialy RAPED, and the only reason we were still in for the win was that strangely, Aluminium Al was having the game of his life!

And if you want to use fact:

FACT We draw 4-4 at 11vs11 against Newcastle while leading by 4 goals 15 min before FT so 1-1 vs Barca at Nou camp with 30 min to go... what did you expect?

FACT Barca woul've raped us despite the RVP incident. Or, if you think we could've kept them at bay until the end of the game, then I suggest you start watching Arsenal Seasons reviews since 2006 and watch us give up a lead times and times again....

[Robsy]

[Arsenal 1991]

[quote="FrenchGun]If anything, RVP's red card gave us just the perfect excuse for our loss.

...yeah, because we were winning! We were going through. If you think that with 11 people it would have been as one-sided as it turned out then you're the one who needs to get a grip.

I'm not happy with AW, but don't muddle you're hatred of him with the facts.

FACT when RVP was sent off we were ahead with 30minutes to play.

FACT they only one the two-legged match by 1 goal, scored after RVP was sent off - infact they scored 2 goals after the sending off.

Seriously? yeah i think that with 11 people it would've been as one sided as it was... Since that was already happening!!! We didn't have more occasions when RVP was there, since we had 0 OCCASSIONS! ZERO! Even before RVP was sent off, we were being openly and officialy RAPED, and the only reason we were still in for the win was that strangely, Aluminium Al was having the game of his life!

And if you want to use fact:

FACT We draw 4-4 at 11vs11 against Newcastle while leading by 4 goals 15 min before FT so 1-1 vs Barca at Nou camp with 30 min to go... what did you expect?

FACT Barca woul've raped us despite the RVP incident. Or, if you think we could've kept them at bay until the end of the game, then I suggest you start watching Arsenal Seasons reviews since 2006 and watch us give up a lead times and times again....[/quote][/quote][/quote]

I'll say it again, they had TWO clear cut chances before the goal. TWO! in 55 mins.

[Robsy]

And if you want to use fact:

FACT Barca woul've raped us despite the RVP incident. Or, if you think we could've kept them at bay until the end of the game, then I suggest you start watching Arsenal Seasons reviews since 2006 and watch us give up a lead times and times again....

That's not fact, that is opinion.

For all their possession, before RVP was sent off, it was 1-1.

They only won by 1 goal.

I think that with 11 players the game could have gone into extra time and even penalties.

It's all irrelevant as we lost, but I think that with a better ref it would have been a completely different game.