As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
TeeCee wrote:I think De Bruyne is an excellent player......but he's a midfield playmaker, just about the LAST position we need to fill so can't believe we'll go for him........oh....hang on though.....
Can he play right back? If he joins us he soon will
mcdowell42 wrote:It's very rarely I ever hear of other teams having problems with getting work permits ,why do we always seem to have problems, we had it with Campbell and Wellington Silva(is he still on our books and if so where the fuck is he).
Wellington Boot was a nobody & Campbell played for (then) nobody, so they had to be loaned out. If we present the FA with a strong case; demonstrating that he will be a first-team player, then we won't have any problems.
As long as he has been playing regularly for his previous teams in Europe then we'll get him, even if it means an appeal.
That, plus the obvious brown envelope we will slide over the table at Soho Square.
The FA doesn't issue the permit it is the government. It is all part of these immigration laws you all want tightening!
On one of the papers it said the FA advise the Home Office on such work permits. If the FA believe the player is of such a level that he enhances the game in England they recommend granting permit. Not being an international may be a stumbling block in that case. Arsene could explain that by saying "he was a little jaded for the World Cup " or that "he was a little short"
They can just do what Chelsea did when signing Willian, by saying would have played more games had he not been Brazilian, and therefore competing against better players. Then again someone might point out David Luiz plays for Brazil in that position
rigsby wrote:They can just do what Chelsea did when signing Willian, by saying would have played more games had he not been Brazilian, and therefore competing against better players. Then again someone might point out David Luiz plays for Brazil in that position
How did he get into team of the year ? Did judges not watch the World Cup ?
rigsby wrote:They can just do what Chelsea did when signing Willian, by saying would have played more games had he not been Brazilian, and therefore competing against better players. Then again someone might point out David Luiz plays for Brazil in that position
How did he get into team of the year ? Did judges not watch the World Cup ?
Yes they did - the reason he got voted in coz he was blubbering like a bitch on a TV show.
rigsby wrote:They can just do what Chelsea did when signing Willian, by saying would have played more games had he not been Brazilian, and therefore competing against better players. Then again someone might point out David Luiz plays for Brazil in that position
How did he get into team of the year ? Did judges not watch the World Cup ?
Yes they did - the reason he got voted in coz he was blubbering like a bitch on a TV show.
Probably because some berks woke up and saw that Paris had spent the GDP of Central African Republic to sign him and thought "He'll do".
Le cock has confirmed that talks are ongoing and that there is a chance of signing paulista. He has also complained about the work permit issues complicating any potential deal.......maybe if he hadn't bought so much foreign crap (wellington, santos, denilson, Campbell etc) in the past, the regulations wouldn't be as tight as they are
augie wrote:Le cock has confirmed that talks are ongoing and that there is a chance of signing paulista. He has also complained about the work permit issues complicating any potential deal.......maybe if he hadn't bought so much foreign crap (wellington, santos, denilson, Campbell etc) in the past, the regulations wouldn't be as tight as they are
Augie you're not saying Wenger influences the laws of this land regarding employment? that's a babatunde type rant
Work permit rules are due to change this summer, with players costing more than £10 million not requiring a work permit and Wenger admits it could have a bearing on the deal for Paulista.
“First of all I don’t really understand the logic of this rule,” he said. “[I don’t understand] the logic that the availability of the work permit is linked exactly with the amount of money you spend. It should be linked with the quality of the players only.
Sorry I thought the quality of player and amount paid went hand in hand. Unless its David Luiz
Although it does seem crazy that skilled individuals who are moving for vast fees to earn vast wages and contribute massive amounts in terms of taxes whilst imposing a relatively minuscule burden on public services encounter such difficulties in getting a work permit (considering immigration figures), football already has preferential status compared to other sports under immigration laws.
Wenger made a huge deal of personally attending a hearing for Ryo Myaichi's work permit hearing and arguing what a tremendously valuable player he would become... And he has done the square root of fuck all for us (and never will). Whilst I don't state Wenger's influence on immigration policy as highly as Augie it rather undermines his complaining.
Work permit rules are due to change this summer, with players costing more than £10 million not requiring a work permit and Wenger admits it could have a bearing on the deal for Paulista.
“First of all I don’t really understand the logic of this rule,” he said. “[I don’t understand] the logic that the availability of the work permit is linked exactly with the amount of money you spend. It should be linked with the quality of the players only.
Sorry I thought the quality of player and amount paid went hand in hand. Unless its David Luiz
Not really, a player with 5 years left on his contract might cost £10m whereas theyd sell him for £6m if he was in his final year; the cost there is to do with the value of the player to the club financially and nothing to do with ability. You might get a class Brazilian footballer for £9m with 1 year left and a worse one with 5 years could be valued at 10m, the work permit (assuming no caps etc) would go to the worse player as a matter of course under this new system whereas the good player might be turned down. Wenger's right, it sounds stupid.
Equally a player with huge potential in Portugal would naturally cost more than a similarly talented player in the Slovenian league, if the club has done its scouting right and decided theyre as good as each other you could again find the one in portugal valued at 10m who would get a work permit where the one in slovenia might be available for 5m and wouldnt, its crazy (obviously im referring to non EU players in these leagues)
A good friend of mine who watches the Spanish league closely and whos opinion I trust described Gabriel Paulista as a raw talent. He also said he is a bit error prone but definitely has the capabilities to play for Arsenal but you wouldnt want him to slot straight in and play every week just yet. He has the potential to be superb.
Sounds like a decent signing on the face of it but to be honest we need someone who can just slot in straight away. Especially considering this guy has never played in the Premier League before and is likely to have to play every game he is fit for with our injury record!
Arsene doing Diamond Club Q&A now has just said that Paulista deal virtually done, then tried to backtrack after giving too much away
8:50pm - 22 Jan 15
i havent really seen much of him but maybe seems a little bit like Kos when he was new to us. And I think most of us can agree that Kos has been a really good signing despite sometimes giving away dumb pens.
it rather undermines his complaining.
