The Banner

[QuartzGooner]

jesus. 50 pages. is this a forum record?

Transfer thread in the summer went to over 200 pages.

This one might catch it up.

[Rosie_titters]

Good move putting it up whilst Arsne is still in the changing room........NOT
Would have been great to of seen in when Sunderland drew back to one all.
Good idea badly carried out. Epic fail!!!

So was the banner actually shown?

from the quiet response, i presume it didn't

[frankbutcher]

No it didn't. It never was going to after the Club's stance was made clear. Didn't see LadyArse's one go up, but good to hear it was taken straight down. Sounds like the Club are being even-handed if she was asked to take it straight down. That would be a first if true!

The flag will be seen this season. You don't need to have any doubt about that!

[DUFFMAN]

FrustratedLongtimeGooner wrote: Morning all. First time poster who needs to get this off his chest.

I'm done, finished, I can stand no more of 'Arsenes Arsenal'.

I guess, if I'm honest, the end for me came when we lost to Birmingham in the Cup final. Since that day I've wanted to believe in him but in reality that was the day I lost all hope.

Even before that point though I'd always been slightly critical of the way we never retained titles-blaming it on Arsene tactics etc-and always felt under him we'd never win a european trophy. In those days though the 'trade off' was seeing us really compete donestically with some great players playing some genuinely great football. Since 2004 though each passing season has seen a little more of a decline, missed opportunities, and world-class players starting to leave in their prime.

Yet even up to that Birmingham game I always looked forward to Arsenal games and celebrated every goal like a loon! Since that Cup final though I've just not been the same. I don't get half as excited any more, the only goal I've really celebrated was Chamberlains the other night (he's going to be some player!) and sadly there's a very VERY small part of me that wants to see us concede and even lose games! Can you believe that? I feel terrible for even discussing it but I know its the ONLY way there's any chance that Arsene Wenger will leave the Club-which is now what I want more than anything. Because with him in charge there is no hope that we'll ever really compete or win trophies again. He's a poor man-manager, terrible at tactics, and will not admit he's ever wrong. I hate listening to him and everything he now says irritates the *%^@ out of me And the board can't escape criticism here by effectively giving him a job for life. Ridiculous-absolutely ridiculous.

As for the fans! What the hell is wrong with them? We're one of the biggest most famous clubs in world football yet even now some can't see how bad we've become. Its their fawning over Wenger and willingness to accept anything he or the Club does that's caused some of this. No other supporters of a big Club would accept this apart from us and it maddens and frustrates the life out of me. I mean just how bad does it have to get? 8-2, 4-3, 4-4....no problem, 'in Wenger we trust.....'

Their ambitions for this Club are simply pathetic yet sadly its their support the Club tends to hear most (witness the 'one Arsene Wenger' chants at recent games). Even the falling crowds are blamed on the economical difficulties surrounding the world rather than the fact we're just not that good any more.

The only way I'll start to enjoy Arsenal games again is if were to go on a fantastic run over twelve months culminating in a second place finish and a super run in the Champions league. I'd have to admit I was wrong and take the flak that comes my way. That wont happen though so I'll have to wait until Wenger AND/OR the board (hopefully both as they're all culpable to some extent) leave the Club. Get owners in who think about the football first and the finances second. And get a manager who does defending, does tactics, and doesn't make endless excuses for his own shortcomings.

So whilst I can't deny I feel a little uncomfortable abut this banner I totally understand and agree with the sentiments behind it. I also thought Frank Butcher spoke really well on the radio and made some great points the other day.

Let's hope that this is not only your first but your last.

So did it go up today? Was in block 3, looked around all game.

You absolute fucking moron.

You are exactly the sort of arsene fc wanker that this fella is talking about.
Most of us can understand the pain which he's talking about and want change for the good of the CLUB we support but you fucking sheep are so fucking blind.

I bet when the deluded old *word censored* fucks off to PSG after he's rightfully sacked, you'll all suddenly start supporting them.

The leader is good, the leader is great.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas

[Gunnersaurus]

Yeah because I said the leader was great.

Did it get a showing today or did you melt?

[ThomasMitchell]

Morning all. First time poster who needs to get this off his chest.

I'm done, finished, I can stand no more of 'Arsenes Arsenal'.

I guess, if I'm honest, the end for me came when we lost to Birmingham in the Cup final. Since that day I've wanted to believe in him but in reality that was the day I lost all hope.  

Even before that point though I'd always been slightly critical of the way we never retained titles-blaming it on Arsene tactics etc-and always felt under him we'd never win a european trophy. In those days though the 'trade off' was seeing us really compete donestically with some great players playing some genuinely great football. Since 2004 though each passing season has seen a little more of a decline, missed opportunities, and world-class players starting to leave in their prime.

Yet even up to that Birmingham game I always looked forward to Arsenal games and celebrated every goal like a loon! Since that Cup final though I've just not been the same. I don't get half as excited any more, the only goal I've really celebrated was Chamberlains the other night (he's going to be some player!) and sadly there's a very VERY small part of me that wants to see us concede and even lose games! Can you believe that? I feel terrible for even discussing it but I know its the ONLY way there's any chance that Arsene Wenger will leave the Club-which is now what I want more than anything. Because with him in charge there is no hope that we'll ever really compete or win trophies again. He's a poor man-manager, terrible at tactics, and will not admit he's ever wrong. I hate listening to him and everything he now says irritates the *%^@ out of me And the board can't escape criticism here by effectively giving him a job for life. Ridiculous-absolutely ridiculous.

As for the fans! What the hell is wrong with them? We're one of the biggest most famous clubs in world football yet even now some can't see how bad we've become. Its their fawning over Wenger and willingness to accept anything he or the Club does that's caused some of this. No other supporters of a big Club would accept this apart from us and it maddens and frustrates the life out of me. I mean just how bad does it have to get? 8-2, 4-3, 4-4....no problem, 'in Wenger we trust.....'

Their ambitions for this Club are simply pathetic yet sadly its their support the Club tends to hear most (witness the 'one Arsene Wenger' chants at recent games). Even the falling crowds are blamed on the economical difficulties surrounding the world rather than the fact we're just not that good any more.

The only way I'll start to enjoy Arsenal games again is if were to go on a fantastic run over twelve months culminating in a second place finish and a super run in the Champions league. I'd have to admit I was wrong and take the flak that comes my way. That wont happen though so I'll have to wait until Wenger AND/OR the board (hopefully both as they're all culpable to some extent) leave the Club. Get owners in who think about the football first and the finances second. And get a manager who does defending, does tactics, and doesn't make endless excuses for his own shortcomings.

So whilst I can't deny I feel a little uncomfortable abut this banner I totally understand and agree with the sentiments behind it. I also thought Frank Butcher spoke really well on the radio and made some great points the other day.

Excellent and heart felt post. I understand exactly how you feel. Hope to hear more of you on here. Arsenal FC, not Arsene FC!

[ThomasMitchell]

Yeah because I said the leader was great.

Did it get a showing today or did you melt?

Frankbutcher already answered that didn't he Not a question of melting, more a question of timing.

[Eboue-Why?]

Given the coverage this has received during the week, it was good that 'One Arsene Wenger' wasn't sung today. Maybe, just maybe people are coming to their senses

[Gunnersaurus]

The timing was today, if we get a result against Marseille and Stoke then the boat has sailed without the banner on it regardless of what happens at Chelsea.

It's a results business so to speak.

[frankbutcher]

The timing was today, if we get a result against Marseille and Stoke then the boat has sailed without the banner on it regardless of what happens at Chelsea.

It's a results business so to speak.

I don't think you could be more wrong. This has achieved exactly what we set out to do.....raise awareness and put pressure on the GIC. Mission Part I accomplished. Part II to be confirmed....

[scfc64]

I've got my Banner ready for next week. It says.........................

Arsene-
Thanks for the memories.
So its time to.......Sign a 15 year deal !

Only joking Goonies,looking forwad to it,staying in Whetstone,same place as we did for the Cup final. I won't say the exact whereabouts (as one of you may set fire to the travelodge,DOH !) but its 5 mins down the hill from the tube and cheap to park there on a Sunday too as we have to leave check-out at 12pm. There are some nice places to eat on the High St too,had a great time there last May,hope we enjoy it just as much.

Yes indeedy,I love the London away games,it is a quality place and I always do my best to get down to them. Londoners,on the whole, I find are very easy to get on with and very chatty,although 5 minutes into a conversation they always try and sell you fruit ?

Good win today BTW. I'm sure there'll be a thread on here about next Sundays game,I'm sure also you'll be talking about our free-flowing pass and move Rugby type Football or maybe not ! TTFN .

[frankbutcher]

I've got my Banner ready for next week. It says.........................

Arsene-
Thanks for the memories.
So its time to.......Sign a 15 year deal !

Only joking Goonies,looking forwad to it,staying in Whetstone,same place as we did for the Cup final. I won't say the exact whereabouts (as one of you may set fire to the travelodge,DOH !) but its 5 mins down the hill from the tube and cheap to park there on a Sunday too as we have to leave check-out at 12pm. There are some nice places to eat on the High St too,had a great time there last May,hope we enjoy it just as much.

Yes indeedy,I love the London away games,it is a quality place and I always do my best to get down to them. Londoners,on the whole, I find are very easy to get on with and very chatty,although 5 minutes into a conversation they always try and sell you fruit ?

Good win today BTW. I'm sure there'll be a thread on here about next Sundays game,I'm sure also you'll be talking about our free-flowing pass and move Rugby type Football or maybe not ! TTFN .

scfc - I'll be waiting outside your hotel eating a prawn sarnie from the Marks and Spencers next door.

Enjoy your stay!

[ThomasMitchell]

The timing was today, if we get a result against Marseille and Stoke then the boat has sailed without the banner on it regardless of what happens at Chelsea.

It's a results business so to speak.

There are a lot of people asking (in a critical way it seems to me) if/why the banner was not shown. If people felt so strongly that it should have been displayed, why didn't they do something about it themselves? Seems to me that the likes of SWL, Frankbutcher, and Mikey etc are at least prepared to take some action. As they are willing to put their head above the parapet, and take all the stick that may come with it, then they should be left to deal with it as they see fit. They have collectively done a great job up to now in raising the profile of this campaign. It's so easy to pike from the side-lines but do nothing oneself.

[scfc64]

I've got my Banner ready for next week. It says.........................

Arsene-
Thanks for the memories.
So its time to.......Sign a 15 year deal !

Only joking Goonies,looking forwad to it,staying in Whetstone,same place as we did for the Cup final. I won't say the exact whereabouts (as one of you may set fire to the travelodge,DOH !) but its 5 mins down the hill from the tube and cheap to park there on a Sunday too as we have to leave check-out at 12pm. There are some nice places to eat on the High St too,had a great time there last May,hope we enjoy it just as much.

Yes indeedy,I love the London away games,it is a quality place and I always do my best to get down to them. Londoners,on the whole, I find are very easy to get on with and very chatty,although 5 minutes into a conversation they always try and sell you fruit ?

Good win today BTW. I'm sure there'll be a thread on here about next Sundays game,I'm sure also you'll be talking about our free-flowing pass and move Rugby type Football or maybe not ! TTFN .

scfc - I'll be waiting outside your hotel eating a prawn sarnie from the Marks and Spencers next door.

Enjoy your stay!

Thanks. Yes,forgot about the M&S! There's a newsagents that does the Lottery right on the corner I remember. Going to that Pizza place a bit further up on the same side on the Friday night when we arrive,you're welcome to come and have a beer with us. You won't miss us,we'll be the family who all have six fingers! !

[frankbutcher]

I've got my Banner ready for next week. It says.........................

Arsene-
Thanks for the memories.
So its time to.......Sign a 15 year deal !

Only joking Goonies,looking forwad to it,staying in Whetstone,same place as we did for the Cup final. I won't say the exact whereabouts (as one of you may set fire to the travelodge,DOH !) but its 5 mins down the hill from the tube and cheap to park there on a Sunday too as we have to leave check-out at 12pm. There are some nice places to eat on the High St too,had a great time there last May,hope we enjoy it just as much.

Yes indeedy,I love the London away games,it is a quality place and I always do my best to get down to them. Londoners,on the whole, I find are very easy to get on with and very chatty,although 5 minutes into a conversation they always try and sell you fruit ?

Good win today BTW. I'm sure there'll be a thread on here about next Sundays game,I'm sure also you'll be talking about our free-flowing pass and move Rugby type Football or maybe not ! TTFN .

scfc - I'll be waiting outside your hotel eating a prawn sarnie from the Marks and Spencers next door.

Enjoy your stay!

Thanks. Yes,forgot about the M&S! There's a newsagents that does the Lottery right on the corner I remember. Going to that Pizza place a bit further up on the same side on the Friday night when we arrive,you're welcome to come and have a beer with us. You won't miss us,we'll be the family who all have six fingers! !

Nice part of the world! That's where Wenger lives.. I hope you have a great stay, but leave with nil points!