Unai Emery

[clockender1]

he is awful, but I do like him

I wonder if the opening line "with the new manager we started from scratch" means as much as we think it does.

[DB10GOONER]

he is awful, but I do like him

I wonder if the opening line "with the new manager we started from scratch" means as much as we think it does.

[clockender1]

the Beeb did a first six games comparison :

Arsenal are two points better off than this time last year and have earned five more points in the corresponding fixtures (Stoke have been replaced by Cardiff for comparison purposes). The Gunners lost at Newcastle and the Potters last season.



Points after six games in 2018-19 - 12

Points after six games in 2017-18 - 10

Points from corresponding fixtures 2017-18 - 7

[goonersid]

good comments from cech on the old and new regime :

'We started off with the new manager from scratch and we’re trying to get a mentality of winning every game, progressing every game, working every day and hopefully we can build this up and win the title sooner rather than later.'

It was often suggested that Arsenal lacked the necessary steel to win the league under former manager Wenger, who won three titles in his first six years before failing to win the title again.

They showed some resilience against an Everton side that started Sunday's game brightly, giving Unai Emery a fifth straight win in all competitions.

And Cech suggested the team had been too focused on what was viewed as the ex-manager's philosophy to the detriment of picking up results.


He continued: 'The Arsenal way was more important than getting the points sometimes. This is not sometimes how you win the league.

'Sometimes you need to make sure you win ugly games when you are not completely playing well and you just dig deep and you just closed the back door and win 1-0 no matter how.

'I think this is what we lacked since I arrived in the last three years.

'We had gone through difficult moments in this game and we managed to get the win and keep a clean sheet. This is very important.'

So you like Dick too, huh?

Yep, never would have believed I’d take dick ahead of c u n t

[DB10GOONER]

good comments from cech on the old and new regime :

'We started off with the new manager from scratch and we’re trying to get a mentality of winning every game, progressing every game, working every day and hopefully we can build this up and win the title sooner rather than later.'

It was often suggested that Arsenal lacked the necessary steel to win the league under former manager Wenger, who won three titles in his first six years before failing to win the title again.

They showed some resilience against an Everton side that started Sunday's game brightly, giving Unai Emery a fifth straight win in all competitions.

And Cech suggested the team had been too focused on what was viewed as the ex-manager's philosophy to the detriment of picking up results.


He continued: 'The Arsenal way was more important than getting the points sometimes. This is not sometimes how you win the league.

'Sometimes you need to make sure you win ugly games when you are not completely playing well and you just dig deep and you just closed the back door and win 1-0 no matter how.

'I think this is what we lacked since I arrived in the last three years.

'We had gone through difficult moments in this game and we managed to get the win and keep a clean sheet. This is very important.'

So you like Dick too, huh?

Yep, never would have believed I’d take dick ahead of c u n t

I see what you did there.....

[Gunner Rob]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

[AkneyGooner]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

That is a fair point, and would reflect that he is making tactical changes and / or putting a rocket up thier arses at half time.

[augie]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

I would agree with that BUT it always seems to follow a fairly poor first half performance when you ask yourself what the fcuk is going on ? Most of the training and tactics are done in the days leading up to a game so there should be absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be flying in the first half of games, but the players seem flat and hesitant in the first half of games and I dont understand who

[Gunner Rob]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

I would agree with that BUT it always seems to follow a fairly poor first half performance when you ask yourself what the fcuk is going on ? Most of the training and tactics are done in the days leading up to a game so there should be absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be flying in the first half of games, but the players seem flat and hesitant in the first half of games and I dont understand who

you might well be right, on the other hand we have kept a clean sheet in each of the last 3 games in the first half.
still early days though - we will know more after the next few games.

[Jock Gooner]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

I would agree with that BUT it always seems to follow a fairly poor first half performance when you ask yourself what the fcuk is going on ? Most of the training and tactics are done in the days leading up to a game so there should be absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be flying in the first half of games, but the players seem flat and hesitant in the first half of games and I dont understand who

Just thinking the same thing. Vorska was irrelevant to a point and the entire Everton game was one of the most boring nothing 90 minutes I have sat through for a long time. Everton are always there for the taking at our place but we really had a good go at chucking the match away in the first half. Tbf to Cech he made some decent saves to keep us in it and we could have easily found ourselves having to chase the game in the second half.

Dick really needs to get the Ozil question sorted out and quick. I assume Blade doesn't venture far from his thread so I think I'm safe to comment here. I watched Ozil closely on Sunday and there was just nothing much coming from him which unfortunately is all too frequent an occurence. If we are going to start playing from the first minute then we need him to be on his game and up for it in order to kick start things. Can see Watford who have some big lumps giving him a pretty rough time on Saturday - fingers crossed he responds.

[DB10GOONER]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

I would agree with that BUT it always seems to follow a fairly poor first half performance when you ask yourself what the fcuk is going on ? Most of the training and tactics are done in the days leading up to a game so there should be absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be flying in the first half of games, but the players seem flat and hesitant in the first half of games and I dont understand who

Just thinking the same thing. Vorska was irrelevant to a point and the entire Everton game was one of the most boring nothing 90 minutes I have sat through for a long time. Everton are always there for the taking at our place but we really had a good go at chucking the match away in the first half. Tbf to Cech he made some decent saves to keep us in it and we could have easily found ourselves having to chase the game in the second half.

Dick really needs to get the Ozil question sorted out and quick. I assume Blade doesn't venture far from his thread so I think I'm safe to comment here. I watched Ozil closely on Sunday and there was just nothing much coming from him which unfortunately is all too frequent an occurence. If we are going to start playing from the first minute then we need him to be on his game and up for it in order to kick start things. Can see Watford who have some big lumps giving him a pretty rough time on Saturday - fingers crossed he responds.

Hmmm.... except for putting one on a plate for Ramsey to fuck up.

Ozil was quiet against the Toffees but if you watched him closely then you'd have seen that the only 5 or 6 half decent passes we managed to put together - before the goals - came from him and (shock horror ) Xhaka.

Even without the BladeMong it seems the agenda is still strong on here. Ramsey Xhaka Boomerang and Lacazette all played worse than Ozil but he's still the one you point at..... I would qualify that with "up until the two strikers scored" but tbh both did fuck all really before or after they scored.

The whole team were flat and looked nervy. I honestly think that nervy vibe starts with Cech making the defenders nervous, who in turn make the midfielders nervous, which makes the strikers play within themselves as they are not getting enough service.

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

Ozil miles better than Ramsey. Ramsey should just fuck off.

[clockender1]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

I believe its Garcedo who hands out the bollackings but good point.

also, against the chavs we started slowly then grew into it and mullered them for the last 20 of the 1st half and first 20 of the 2nd.

I think its lack of confidence and belief - they are not confidant that they can play a disciplined organized game. its no coincidence that the best performers are the recent additions - Sokratis, Guendozi, Torreira, lichtsteiners - all who are unweighed by the ex-managers legacy of no focus on positional awareness, defending as a team, set pieces, man to man marking etc

its very difficult to break ingrained habits and being caught in two minds is disastrous for the back four and midfield- for example "do I go with the man, or do I stay" etc is always in your mind when you play at a decent level. you have to have the belief that whatever you do is going to be right and do it assertively.

I do think we missed Guendozi first half and although I want him to do well, Ramsay has to be dropped in favour of a Ozil-Guendozi-Torreira- Xhaka midfield.

[TeeCee]

I can’t understand why he doesn’t play Doozi and Torreira in the middle, that would give a great defence for our shitty......defence! Maybe he won’t drop Rambo because he thinks he may sign a new contract? I’d drop him, Ozil on the left and muckytarragon on the right if it’s a weaker team we’re playing, if it’s a stronger team I’d be tempted to play welwide on the right as he will track back and cover Bellend at right back!

[Jock Gooner]

what has impressed me the most in the last 3 games is that in each game we have gone 2-0 up inside an hour.
when did that happen in the latter years of the Wenger reign??! it makes me think does Emery actually give a decent team talk at half time ?

v Newcastle United 2-0 in the 58th minute
v Vorska 2-0 in the 48th minute
v Everton 2-0 in the 59th minute

That first period in the 2nd half is where we have been doing all the damage, and it is a time which barely used to exist under Wenger as he would be too busy fiddling with his zip and waiting for the 70th minute to bring on his sub

I would agree with that BUT it always seems to follow a fairly poor first half performance when you ask yourself what the fcuk is going on ? Most of the training and tactics are done in the days leading up to a game so there should be absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be flying in the first half of games, but the players seem flat and hesitant in the first half of games and I dont understand who

Just thinking the same thing. Vorska was irrelevant to a point and the entire Everton game was one of the most boring nothing 90 minutes I have sat through for a long time. Everton are always there for the taking at our place but we really had a good go at chucking the match away in the first half. Tbf to Cech he made some decent saves to keep us in it and we could have easily found ourselves having to chase the game in the second half.

Dick really needs to get the Ozil question sorted out and quick. I assume Blade doesn't venture far from his thread so I think I'm safe to comment here. I watched Ozil closely on Sunday and there was just nothing much coming from him which unfortunately is all too frequent an occurence. If we are going to start playing from the first minute then we need him to be on his game and up for it in order to kick start things. Can see Watford who have some big lumps giving him a pretty rough time on Saturday - fingers crossed he responds.

Hmmm.... except for putting one on a plate for Ramsey to fuck up.

Ozil was quiet against the Toffees but if you watched him closely then you'd have seen that the only 5 or 6 half decent passes we managed to put together - before the goals - came from him and (shock horror ) Xhaka.

Even without the BladeMong it seems the agenda is still strong on here. Ramsey Xhaka Boomerang and Lacazette all played worse than Ozil but he's still the one you point at..... I would qualify that with "up until the two strikers scored" but tbh both did fuck all really before or after they scored.

The whole team were flat and looked nervy. I honestly think that nervy vibe starts with Cech making the defenders nervous, who in turn make the midfielders nervous, which makes the strikers play within themselves as they are not getting enough service.

I'm not sure that you can say that all four played worse than Ozil, that's quite a statement given that you're dealing with very fine margins of shitness against Everton But we're still not getting enough from a player of his ability. That is why the finger gets pointed at him because we know he can do it whereas we don't have any expectation of Xhaka playing a blinder or of twirly not falling over his own feet. But if Ozil can't take a home match against Everton by the scruff of the neck then what can we expect from him. I'm not slating him, I would just like to see him take charge of a game more often but it just doesn't seem to happen.

I think the nervy vibe thing was a bit better on Sunday as on a couple of occasions Cech just got rid of it up the park. Also Torreira's natural positional sense helped as he was always available deep to help the defence play out which in addition to Xhaka gave them more options. It's still an awkward watch but it was a bit better. Torreira is like a breathe of fresh air though - somebody who understands his responsibilities and doesn't just go wandering aimlessly up the park like some of them. There was just no spark to the game though that was the disappointing thing - it was like watching an end of season game with nothing to play for. Maybe the players are fed up with Thursday / Sunday football too Also, where was that pressing game that all the talk was about recently - very little sign of any of that on Sunday!

Fingers crossed that they have got things out of their system after Sunday and Dick gives them all a bit of a rocket so they are up for it on Saturday - a proper match on a Saturday with a 3pm kick off