THE WENGER THREAD

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At 0-4, with a rare chance to cross, only Giroud is in the middle v 4 red shirts.
We could be playing Cardiff or Barcelona, 4 up or 4 down, Wenger will always stubbornly stick to his same formation and tactics.

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At 0-4, with a rare chance to cross, only Giroud is in the middle v 4 red shirts.
We could be playing Cardiff or Barcelona, 4 up or 4 down, Wenger will always stubbornly stick to his same formation and tactics.

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the proof that we don't tailor our tactics depending on who our opposition is was blindingly obvious today. so much naivety in defence and lack of cohesion in midfield. THATS why I laugh when I hear some of our deluded support thinking we had a shout for the title. It was always a false position in the table

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Henry Norris 1913 wrote:the proof that we don't tailor our tactics depending on who our opposition is was blindingly obvious today. so much naivety in defence and lack of cohesion in midfield. THATS why I laugh when I hear some of our deluded support thinking we had a shout for the title. It was always a false position in the table
When I dared to suggest that The Calendar Year Trophy 2013 was a quirk of the fixture lists from the end of last season and start of this apparently I was "stubborn as a mule" and daft for not thinking we'd progressed

I'll say now what I dared to then. End of season will see us finish 4th and having exited the CL in the round of 16 and the cup we could win in Round 5. So where's the fucking progress in that?

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SteveO 35 wrote: When I dared to suggest that The Calendar Year Trophy 2013 was a quirk of the fixture lists from the end of last season and start of this apparently I was "stubborn as a mule" and daft for not thinking we'd progressed

I'll say now what I dared to then. End of season will see us finish 4th and having exited the CL in the round of 16 and the cup we could win in Round 5. So where's the fucking progress in that?
That's the majority view, SteveO. What do you mean "say now what you dared to then"?? :? you're views are in line with most on here so rather than "dare" I'd say it's comfortable to say we'll finish 4th and exit cups early. Most would agree and did so in August too.

Even those who think we've progressed (like me) agree that a trophy is unlikely and also agree that early cup exits are likely to follow.

Only a handful of people "dare" be more optimistic, but lets not gloat. I'm sure we'll all be sad if they're wrong. :(

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g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote: When I dared to suggest that The Calendar Year Trophy 2013 was a quirk of the fixture lists from the end of last season and start of this apparently I was "stubborn as a mule" and daft for not thinking we'd progressed

I'll say now what I dared to then. End of season will see us finish 4th and having exited the CL in the round of 16 and the cup we could win in Round 5. So where's the fucking progress in that?
That's the majority view, SteveO. What do you mean "say now what you dared to then"?? :? you're views are in line with most in here so rather than "dare" I'd say it's comfortable to say we'll finish 4th and exit cups early. Most would agree and do so in August too.

Even those who think we've progressed (like me) agree that a trophy is unlikely and also agree that early cup exits are likely to follow.

Only a handful of people "dare" be more optimistic, but lets not gloat. I'm sure we'll all be sad if they're wrong. :(
Mate....with the greatest respect you were one of those imploring me to think that a corner had been turned ! In fact the quote was from you. You said I was incredibly prudent to suggest a 4th placed finish. Are you now being equally prudent?

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SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote: When I dared to suggest that The Calendar Year Trophy 2013 was a quirk of the fixture lists from the end of last season and start of this apparently I was "stubborn as a mule" and daft for not thinking we'd progressed

I'll say now what I dared to then. End of season will see us finish 4th and having exited the CL in the round of 16 and the cup we could win in Round 5. So where's the fucking progress in that?
That's the majority view, SteveO. What do you mean "say now what you dared to then"?? :? you're views are in line with most in here so rather than "dare" I'd say it's comfortable to say we'll finish 4th and exit cups early. Most would agree and do so in August too.

Even those who think we've progressed (like me) agree that a trophy is unlikely and also agree that early cup exits are likely to follow.

Only a handful of people "dare" be more optimistic, but lets not gloat. I'm sure we'll all be sad if they're wrong. :(
Mate....with the greatest respect you were one of those imploring me to think that a corner had been turned ! In fact the quote was from you. You said I was incredibly prudent to suggest a 4th placed finish. Are you now being equally prudent?
eh??

My view hasn't changed. Neither has yours.

I do think we're progressed. And as I've stated before, 2013 has been undoubtedly better than 2012 and 2011 (in my opinion).

But as you know, I don't think Wenger is the man to take us forward so I won't be attending the BBQ.

But saying you "dared" to think we'd finish 4th and have early cup exists makes it sound like you're being brave when, in truth, that's the view shared by the vast majority. :o

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The power is in the hands of the supporters.
Arsenal fans keep propping up Wenger. FACT

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Without even bothering to check, I bet Steve O's been all over this like a pig in shit, barely able to conceal his boner over finally getting a big defeat to roll out his "I told you so" routine. Altogether now! :-

:barscarf: :barscarf: ONE ARSENE WENGER :barscarf: :barscarf:

:barscarf: :barscarf: THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER :barscarf: :barscarf:

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g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote: When I dared to suggest that The Calendar Year Trophy 2013 was a quirk of the fixture lists from the end of last season and start of this apparently I was "stubborn as a mule" and daft for not thinking we'd progressed

I'll say now what I dared to then. End of season will see us finish 4th and having exited the CL in the round of 16 and the cup we could win in Round 5. So where's the fucking progress in that?
That's the majority view, SteveO. What do you mean "say now what you dared to then"?? :? you're views are in line with most in here so rather than "dare" I'd say it's comfortable to say we'll finish 4th and exit cups early. Most would agree and do so in August too.

Even those who think we've progressed (like me) agree that a trophy is unlikely and also agree that early cup exits are likely to follow.

Only a handful of people "dare" be more optimistic, but lets not gloat. I'm sure we'll all be sad if they're wrong. :(
Mate....with the greatest respect you were one of those imploring me to think that a corner had been turned ! In fact the quote was from you. You said I was incredibly prudent to suggest a 4th placed finish. Are you now being equally prudent?
eh??

My view hasn't changed. Neither has yours.

I do think we're progressed. And as I've stated before, 2013 has been undoubtedly better than 2012 and 2011 (in my opinion).

But saying you "dared" to think we'd finish 4th and have early cup exists makes it sound like you're being brave when, in truth, that's the view shared by the vast majority. :o
Why do people quote calendar years? If you play all the shite at the back end of one season and the start of another it will inevitably produce that outcome. You said I was incredibly prudent to say we would finish 4th when we were top.....now you say it's the view of the many. So why was it prudent a few weeks ago if you always agreed ?

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Robin_L wrote:Without even bothering to check, I bet Steve O's been all over this like a pig in shit, barely able to conceal his boner over finally getting a big defeat to roll out his "I told you so" routine. Altogether now! :-

:barscarf: :barscarf: ONE ARSENE WENGER :barscarf: :barscarf:

:barscarf: :barscarf: THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER :barscarf: :barscarf:
Don't get your Mesut Ozil knickers in a twist sweetie. Nice to see you've managed a whole post without using the 'c' word. Maybe you should stay off the shandy for good. Who knows....maybe long division and joined up writing next week?

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SteveO 35 wrote: Why do people quote calendar years? If you play all the shite at the back end of one season and the start of another it will inevitably produce that outcome. You said I was incredibly prudent to say we would finish 4th when we were top.....now you say it's the view of the many. So why was it prudent a few weeks ago if you always agreed ?
Maybe I'm wrong and your prediction of us finishing 4th stands out more than I thought.

Didn't a poll on here in August end with most saying we'd finish 4th or 5th???

I think I said 4th. I'll check.

Either way, I'm not sure your prediction is that different to most on here?

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Nice to see you managed to go a whole post without calling Wenger a nasty name. :lol: Maybe you're even starting to bore yourself at last

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g88ner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote: Why do people quote calendar years? If you play all the shite at the back end of one season and the start of another it will inevitably produce that outcome. You said I was incredibly prudent to say we would finish 4th when we were top.....now you say it's the view of the many. So why was it prudent a few weeks ago if you always agreed ?
Maybe I'm wrong and your prediction of us finishing 4th stands out more than I thought.

Didn't a poll on here in August end with most saying we'd finish 4th or 5th???

I think I said 4th. I'll check.

Either way, I'm not sure your prediction is that different to most on here?
4th in August perhaps. As I said - how many including you were saying that a few weeks back?

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Robin_L wrote:Nice to see you managed to go a whole post without calling Wenger a nasty name. :lol: Maybe you're even starting to bore yourself at last
Mate don't upset yourself. I don't want to be responsible for you screwing up your GCSEs now. Have a nice night and dream of Arsene.

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