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Midz wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:38 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:33 pm
Brighton are playing hardball with Arsenal over Ben White and demanding £50million plus add-ons. Arsenal, whose first bid was £40m, are discussing a potential offer of £45m plus £5m in add-ons. But Brighton still insist they want even more. [@CharlieWyett]
Tell them to fuck off and bid for someone else.
This ^^

I'm sure there are a few non English centre halves out there that are better value for £50m+.

Play hardball back. Tell them to throw Matt Ryan into the deal.

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Midz wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:38 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:33 pm
Brighton are playing hardball with Arsenal over Ben White and demanding £50million plus add-ons. Arsenal, whose first bid was £40m, are discussing a potential offer of £45m plus £5m in add-ons. But Brighton still insist they want even more. [@CharlieWyett]
Tell them to fuck off and bid for someone else.
100%

I don't doubt there are CB's out there that are a) better than White and b) cheaper.

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Trust the Process.


Yeah ! Sure Okay - waste the money and keep us mid-table for yet another season..

Trust the Process/?? FUCkTHAT and Fuckk ArtetatheWank :banghead:

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:33 pm
Midz wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:38 pm
mcdowell42 wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:33 pm
Brighton are playing hardball with Arsenal over Ben White and demanding £50million plus add-ons. Arsenal, whose first bid was £40m, are discussing a potential offer of £45m plus £5m in add-ons. But Brighton still insist they want even more. [@CharlieWyett]
Tell them to fuck off and bid for someone else.
100%

I don't doubt there are CB's out there that are a) better than White and b) cheaper.
I imagine there a quite a few Welsh defenders going cheap after this game :lol:

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gooner265 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
The signing of Ben White is expected to be followed by that of Anderlecht midfielder Albert Sambi Lokonga, with player sales to take priority afterwards. Mikel Arteta & Edu are focused on adding Premier League proven players to the squad. [@ChrisWheatley_] #afc https://t.co/wPuFGcsAbe
Been saying this for years. Although Willian and Luiz are Premier League proven players and they didn't work out too well, however, given our current status against the chavs it was a step down for them. At least for Ben White it will be a step up if all goes through. Personally, I'd like us to sign Pope from Burnley. Germany's no.4 keeper for England's no.2. Also, if we are after a winger I have liked the look of Wales's Dan James from Manure during the Euros. Barely gets a look in under ole.
I would normally look up and across europe for players but given our current meandering in 8th, no european football, it is hard to see us getting top players to come to us. Whilst a lot of people wouldn't think this would be a great signing, if we got Sterling from Man City, that would be a major coup. Apparently, Arteta had an excellent relationship with Sterling and was able to get the best out of him, so it may not be totally out of reach for us, if the player wants to work with Arteta again. Sterling, Martinelli, Saka with ESR as a front four would be something worth shouting about. I still think Auba will be sold.

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Nos89 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:33 pm
gooner265 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
The signing of Ben White is expected to be followed by that of Anderlecht midfielder Albert Sambi Lokonga, with player sales to take priority afterwards. Mikel Arteta & Edu are focused on adding Premier League proven players to the squad. [@ChrisWheatley_] #afc https://t.co/wPuFGcsAbe
Been saying this for years. Although Willian and Luiz are Premier League proven players and they didn't work out too well, however, given our current status against the chavs it was a step down for them. At least for Ben White it will be a step up if all goes through. Personally, I'd like us to sign Pope from Burnley. Germany's no.4 keeper for England's no.2. Also, if we are after a winger I have liked the look of Wales's Dan James from Manure during the Euros. Barely gets a look in under ole.
I would normally look up and across europe for players but given our current meandering in 8th, no european football, it is hard to see us getting top players to come to us. Whilst a lot of people wouldn't think this would be a great signing, if we got Sterling from Man City, that would be a major coup. Apparently, Arteta had an excellent relationship with Sterling and was able to get the best out of him, so it may not be totally out of reach for us, if the player wants to work with Arteta again. Sterling, Martinelli, Saka with ESR as a front four would be something worth shouting about. I still think Auba will be sold.
I just don't think there is another club out there that would pay Aubameyang s wages.We are stuck with him and Willian.I was reading (mirror online)that Arteta has an issue about putting Tierney and Martinelli in the same side due to Tierney wanting to bomb forward and Martinelli s defensive frailties.This makes little sense to me when he has often played Aub a out wide.Martinelli works a lot harder then Aub a does.

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I am convinced Martinelli needs to be the preferred first choice striker and given extended time in the team . Apparently we are also after Isak from Sociedad but even if we pull that off, Martinelli needs to be given time upfront. I hope the Ben White deal goes through. I would pair him with Holding & see if two English centre halfs can offer some stability. Sign Sterling if City want to offload him, I think it would be worthwhile. City like their new toys and Grealish is the new shiny object on the shelf. Just because City want to offload Sterling mean he is a 'reject'.

For us, the difference between 10th and top 4 is about the same. Man United managed by Ole finished 2nd last year & there is no way we should surrender to Man United. Sure Man City will finish above us & I would concede that before a ball is kicked. But there is no way Arteta shouldn't be told a top 4 is manageable. Its up to him to make the signings and make the tough calls to make that happen, & if he cant then he gets binned.

Dump Xhaka FFS & sort out Saliba, Torreira, Willock, Geundozi - are they being sold or called back to our first team. Is it also worthwhile expecting a WIllian resurgence to his Chelsea days? May as well as he isnt leaving given what we are paying him.

We have a squad to salvage a good team. To often often the baby gets tossed with the bathwater & our players are written off as not good enough. When I would attest if we were more organized & better managed many of these players would perform & results would follow.

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Arteta needs to be bold, first thing he needs to do is take leadership away from the 'captains' PEA, Laca and Xhaka (who should & will be sold), and give Tierney the armband and tell Holding, Saka and ESR to assume more responsibility. The last time the leadership was right at this club was when Vieira was captain and realistically Cole, Campbell, Henry, Lehmann, Lauren could have all captained the team. Henry was the obvious choice following Paddy leaving but then the captaincy was all wrong, going to Gilberto who wasnt in the first team, then to Cesc as a means to keep him at the club, then was it Vermaelen who was always injured and overlooked for Kosicleny, & Mertesacker, then I think it was RVP to keep him , then it was Arteta then was it Mertesacker after? Who fucking keeps track. We have had that many captains and mostly all for the wrong reasons.

A club should have no more than 3 captains in 10 years. You have a captain and core leadership group and they set the standard and players who step out of line get hit. This club hasn't taken the captaincy seriously since in over 10 years & it shows. Thats why a young AOC used to dance in the tunnels before games - who was there to tell him not to?

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Nos89 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:33 pm
gooner265 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
The signing of Ben White is expected to be followed by that of Anderlecht midfielder Albert Sambi Lokonga, with player sales to take priority afterwards. Mikel Arteta & Edu are focused on adding Premier League proven players to the squad. [@ChrisWheatley_] #afc https://t.co/wPuFGcsAbe
Been saying this for years. Although Willian and Luiz are Premier League proven players and they didn't work out too well, however, given our current status against the chavs it was a step down for them. At least for Ben White it will be a step up if all goes through. Personally, I'd like us to sign Pope from Burnley. Germany's no.4 keeper for England's no.2. Also, if we are after a winger I have liked the look of Wales's Dan James from Manure during the Euros. Barely gets a look in under ole.
I would normally look up and across europe for players but given our current meandering in 8th, no european football, it is hard to see us getting top players to come to us. Whilst a lot of people wouldn't think this would be a great signing, if we got Sterling from Man City, that would be a major coup. Apparently, Arteta had an excellent relationship with Sterling and was able to get the best out of him, so it may not be totally out of reach for us, if the player wants to work with Arteta again. Sterling, Martinelli, Saka with ESR as a front four would be something worth shouting about. I still think Auba will be sold.



I say this with absolute conviction buddy, but that highlighted line deserves to have your account on here permanently suspended - the guy is absolute, absolute dogshit :roll:

Re the goalkeepers remark, can I suggest that putting on your cv that you are back up to jordan pickford isnt the greatest selling point to future employers who would/should be interested in better - let's be honest, how many people on here would be begging the club to sign pickford if he was available in the morning ? I know that I for one wouldnt be, and pope isnt even considered to be better than pickford :roll:

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John F wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:25 am
Nos89 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:33 pm
gooner265 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
The signing of Ben White is expected to be followed by that of Anderlecht midfielder Albert Sambi Lokonga, with player sales to take priority afterwards. Mikel Arteta & Edu are focused on adding Premier League proven players to the squad. [@ChrisWheatley_] #afc https://t.co/wPuFGcsAbe
Been saying this for years. Although Willian and Luiz are Premier League proven players and they didn't work out too well, however, given our current status against the chavs it was a step down for them. At least for Ben White it will be a step up if all goes through. Personally, I'd like us to sign Pope from Burnley. Germany's no.4 keeper for England's no.2. Also, if we are after a winger I have liked the look of Wales's Dan James from Manure during the Euros. Barely gets a look in under ole.
I would normally look up and across europe for players but given our current meandering in 8th, no european football, it is hard to see us getting top players to come to us. Whilst a lot of people wouldn't think this would be a great signing, if we got Sterling from Man City, that would be a major coup. Apparently, Arteta had an excellent relationship with Sterling and was able to get the best out of him, so it may not be totally out of reach for us, if the player wants to work with Arteta again. Sterling, Martinelli, Saka with ESR as a front four would be something worth shouting about. I still think Auba will be sold.
I just don't think there is another club out there that would pay Aubameyang s wages.We are stuck with him and Willian.I was reading (mirror online)that Arteta has an issue about putting Tierney and Martinelli in the same side due to Tierney wanting to bomb forward and Martinelli s defensive frailties.This makes little sense to me when he has often played Aub a out wide.Martinelli works a lot harder then Aub a does.



Wind back to the manure home game at the end of January when (after lots of questions from reporters), pep's water boy finally gave martinelli a start in the team - martinelli worked his nuts off in the first half of that game as he continually helped soares out (one brilliant last ditch back post interception stands out), and then at ht this stupid c.unt subs him :roll:

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Two things:


James IS a good player - when he first went to manure he showed how good he was he was skinning defenders for fun then the hobbit came in and since then his game has declined due to lack of match time.

From what I have seen Martinelli is one of the few Arsenal forward players who does track back AND his defensive skills are decent - far better than Auba & Willian at any rate - I just think Arteta has a problem full stop with Martinelli - and that shows his lack of man management skills etc

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Apparently according to the Athletic, Villa upped the offer for ESR to £30m. I know I have stuck up for Arteta in the past, but if they sell ESR then to me that proves they don't understand Arsenal and its history. Our great teams have always been built on a core of local English lads.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:53 am
Apparently according to the Athletic, Villa upped the offer for ESR to £30m. I know I have stuck up for Arteta in the past, but if they sell ESR then to me that proves they don't understand Arsenal and its history. Our great teams have always been built on a core of local English lads.
Yeah, if it’s true that Villa are coming in with a second bid then that may suggest they’ve been given some encouragement? :?

Nah, surely not… seems very hard to believe we’d sell ESR….

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augie wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:58 am
John F wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:25 am
Nos89 wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:33 pm
gooner265 wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
The signing of Ben White is expected to be followed by that of Anderlecht midfielder Albert Sambi Lokonga, with player sales to take priority afterwards. Mikel Arteta & Edu are focused on adding Premier League proven players to the squad. [@ChrisWheatley_] #afc https://t.co/wPuFGcsAbe
Been saying this for years. Although Willian and Luiz are Premier League proven players and they didn't work out too well, however, given our current status against the chavs it was a step down for them. At least for Ben White it will be a step up if all goes through. Personally, I'd like us to sign Pope from Burnley. Germany's no.4 keeper for England's no.2. Also, if we are after a winger I have liked the look of Wales's Dan James from Manure during the Euros. Barely gets a look in under ole.
I would normally look up and across europe for players but given our current meandering in 8th, no european football, it is hard to see us getting top players to come to us. Whilst a lot of people wouldn't think this would be a great signing, if we got Sterling from Man City, that would be a major coup. Apparently, Arteta had an excellent relationship with Sterling and was able to get the best out of him, so it may not be totally out of reach for us, if the player wants to work with Arteta again. Sterling, Martinelli, Saka with ESR as a front four would be something worth shouting about. I still think Auba will be sold.
I just don't think there is another club out there that would pay Aubameyang s wages.We are stuck with him and Willian.I was reading (mirror online)that Arteta has an issue about putting Tierney and Martinelli in the same side due to Tierney wanting to bomb forward and Martinelli s defensive frailties.This makes little sense to me when he has often played Aub a out wide.Martinelli works a lot harder then Aub a does.

Wind back to the manure home game at the end of January when (after lots of questions from reporters), pep's water boy finally gave martinelli a start in the team - martinelli worked his nuts off in the first half of that game as he continually helped soares out (one brilliant last ditch back post interception stands out), and then at ht this stupid c.unt subs him :roll:
yes true....

Really think by these actions and lack of faith in Martinelli, Arteta has managed to stop Martinelli establishing himself, he is holding him back
Hes 20 now he should be in the first team...what with that and stories about looking for a striker, its totally demoralising
His family or agent must be telling him to try and move on to somewhere hes appreciated, and can grow into a world class player

Dont trust or believe a single word Arteta says when talikng about Martinelli, hes a snidey yes man....fits in well with Venai and Edu

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Arsenal had offered Eddie Nketiah a new contract to protect his value. That has not been accepted so a decision on his future now becomes more urgent. They may adopt a similar strategy with Reiss Nelson, offering him a new contract before sending him out on loan. [@TheAthleticUK] https://t.co/rOfcm18fBn

Arsenal already have a ‘principle of agreement’ with Benfica for the transfer of left-back Nuno Tavares. The player will sign a five-year contract. Arsenal are ‘very close’ to securing the transfer. [@JornalNoticias] #afc https://t.co/gKxiCOYGe9


Arsenal are edging closer to an agreement with Anderlecht over Albert Sambi Lokonga’s acquisition. Garlick has been in consistent contact with the Belgian side. Arsenal have connections that have enabled them to learn more about the player’s character & ability. [@TheAthleticUK] https://t.co/JtkodFFRMT

🚨 EXCL: Aston Villa make 2nd bid to sign Emile Smith Rowe from Arsenal. After ~£25m offer rejected, new ~£30m proposal also rebuffed. #AFC adamant 20yo midfielder not for sale but new contract not agreed + #AVFC don’t seem to be going away @TheAthleticUK https://t.co/jWL7jIKJVk

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