THE WENGER THREAD

[Gunner Rob]

just reading the post match comments on the Arsenal website are enough to make you scream.

on playing with the handbrake...
Yes, tonight it was on, but I think it will [come off]. When you are hit like we were on Saturday, the players want not to lose the game and we could have lost it in the last five minutes.

well you useless turd why the fuck was the handbrake on against a side that have already lost 8 league matches this season and were there for the taking?????

why did he have 3 strikers left unused on the bench??
we settled for a 0-0 draw at home and we are apparenly trying to win the league!!!
it is unbelievable - we are not in a title race and never were. 4th place is our ultimate goal this season.
we just need to get eliminated from the FA Cup and CL to focus on that.

[goonertux]

Thanks for the early years Arsene, when your teams were built on strength, pace, desire, and quality strikers. Now we have none of that. The team is ambling along, lead by a disillusioned fool who just can't or won't let go. Directionless both on and off the pitch. I can't stomach any more. We are now also boring to watch. It's so predictable. For once, you have to see it! It is a disgrace, the contempt that is shown to the fans, both football-wise and financially. Your time has come, go now, before it gets really angry and ugly at the stadium. Please.

[augie]

I just am at a loss to understand how fans refuse to see how dire we are ? Toothless, paceless and gutless is what sums up this team and fans see this and recognise the need for changing tactics but still defend wenker

We have been top for most of the season and have been told that we are much improved on last season but yet the facts say otherwise. We are told that it impossible to compare last seasons results against the same teams but yet we are meant to compare last seasons form to this season ? On what fcuking basis then ? Why is it unfair to compare last seasons results against the same teams this year cos it doesnt factor in line up changes/transfers/injuries etc, but at the same time it is deemed fair to proclaim that this season we have improved from where we were at this stage last season but no factoring in the differences in the fixture lists from last season ? These people need to make their fcuking mind up.....either it is ok to compare and if so accept that we are actually worse off points wise from the corresponding fixtures, or stick with the theory that it is impossible to accurately compare and if so stop claiming that we have improved until the season is over and when all the results are in

[Clash]

There has been a lot of stuff said about Cardiff changing the colour of their shirts, the Hull City Tigers thing, what's happening to the Coventry fans etc. But nobody ever talks about how Arsenal have lost their true identity.

For me, far too much has changed since we left Highbury. I'd suggest the club would have been more recognisable in the 90s to someone who remembered how it was in the 30s, than what it is now compared to how it was less than 10 years ago.

Its not just the stadium we now play in that's different, its the whole ethos of the club. The lack of class. I don't feel I am following the same Arsenal anymore but I stick with them purely because the only alternative is to walk away completely.

Wenger has manipulated things in such a way that even when he croaks I cant see us being able to distance ourselves from the methods he has implemented. I fear future managers will be made to feel some obligation to remain true to the Wenger traditions rather than try to revert back to the Arsenal traditions that he has allowed to fade away.

In my opinion, Wenger has now done more harm than good. He is destroying what was England's finest club.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Yep, this is fucking sad. It's down to the manager that we perform like fucking monkeys. In games like pool and manu you would except to see real fighting spirit but all you have is a bunch lambs. There is no motivation, demanding, different tactics, no anything. He just sits there and moans to Bould. Watching that I sometimes wish that Bould would just stand up and tell the old fucker to just shut the fuck up and go home.

[DB10GOONER]

I just am at a loss to understand how fans refuse to see how dire we are ? Toothless, paceless and gutless is what sums up this team and fans see this and recognise the need for changing tactics but still defend wenker

We have been top for most of the season and have been told that we are much improved on last season but yet the facts say otherwise. We are told that it impossible to compare last seasons results against the same teams but yet we are meant to compare last seasons form to this season ? On what fcuking basis then ? Why is it unfair to compare last seasons results against the same teams this year cos it doesnt factor in line up changes/transfers/injuries etc, but at the same time it is deemed fair to proclaim that this season we have improved from where we were at this stage last season but no factoring in the differences in the fixture lists from last season ? These people need to make their fcuking mind up.....either it is ok to compare and if so accept that we are actually worse off points wise from the corresponding fixtures, or stick with the theory that it is impossible to accurately compare and if so stop claiming that we have improved until the season is over and when all the results are in

Not sure if this is addressed at me for my post yesterday but I'll assume it is. Augie, I never said we HAD improved. I'd always leave that final summation until the end of the season as it would be dictated by where we finish in each comp. I also absolutely stand by my belief that you cannot compare last season's fixtures with this season's as a qualifying (or even a quantifying) criteria because of all the variables involved.

[Leyton Gooner]

Decision made. No more games at the bowl after Sunderland (as already got my tickets for that one) until he fucks off. Should have made the decision a long time ago. I don't enjoy watching us anymore, all because of him and this boring as fuck "style" of football and I can meet my mates doing other things or in the pub. As others have said I can't understand how it's come to this as we played some exhilarating stuff for his first 8 years. I've read comments saying we've stood still as others have caught up but if anything we've gone backwards

Actually sod it not just home games but aways as well. Don't enjoy them as much as I used to

[Sam59]

I went last night and am going to my last game of the season vs Bayern. The only positives last night - Gibbs proved he should start, Ozil played much better (with no help), and the plentiful tourists sitting round me in the Clock End were of the opinion that £80 to watch this shower of the proverbial was a total waste of their money.
There's only one french top level striker worse at actually scoring goals than Giroud (and yes, OGL was once linked to him) - fat Gignac at Marseille.

Knew it would be 0-0 unless they scored, about 20 mins in. Was 100% sure that that was what OGL wanted when he didn't bring on either Bendtner or Podolski when the 70th minute ticked by. Either of them may well have scored at least one of Giroud's chances. Giroud's ordinary when he's fully fit. He's buggered so is now a total liability. Only Szczesny seemed to realise what was required.

Even allowing that Wenger's job is to manage the club as a business, he's mismanaging and should go. No genuine title contender club would tolerate this crap.

[defleppardisking]

1 win vs Man Utd in last 14 meetings

0 win vs Mourihno's Chelsea in last 10 meetings

40 points from a possible 114 vs Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool & Chelsea since 09/10 season


And he's rewarding with a new contract

[Ryanswannell]

I went last night and am going to my last game of the season vs Bayern...

I'd keep quiet about that mate, before some jobsworth blames you for ensuring Wenger gets a new contract

[rodders999]

The sight of him sitting there with his head in his hands like a gormless buffoon who couldn't motivate somobody with the trots to take a sh1te does my fcuking head in

[falkirk goon]

http://www.arsenal.com/home#

we couldve won 1-0 you know..loser with a loser mentality..we couldnt beat anycunt 1-0 with the pinball wizard/stargazer up top

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

The sight of him sitting there with his head in his hands like a gormless buffoon who couldn't motivate somobody with the trots to take a sh1te does my fcuking head in

[clockender1]

Good interview here :

http://www.givemesport.com/430652-arsen ... ul-display

[augie]

I just am at a loss to understand how fans refuse to see how dire we are ? Toothless, paceless and gutless is what sums up this team and fans see this and recognise the need for changing tactics but still defend wenker

We have been top for most of the season and have been told that we are much improved on last season but yet the facts say otherwise. We are told that it impossible to compare last seasons results against the same teams but yet we are meant to compare last seasons form to this season ? On what fcuking basis then ? Why is it unfair to compare last seasons results against the same teams this year cos it doesnt factor in line up changes/transfers/injuries etc, but at the same time it is deemed fair to proclaim that this season we have improved from where we were at this stage last season but no factoring in the differences in the fixture lists from last season ? These people need to make their fcuking mind up.....either it is ok to compare and if so accept that we are actually worse off points wise from the corresponding fixtures, or stick with the theory that it is impossible to accurately compare and if so stop claiming that we have improved until the season is over and when all the results are in

Not sure if this is addressed at me for my post yesterday but I'll assume it is. Augie, I never said we HAD improved. I'd always leave that final summation until the end of the season as it would be dictated by where we finish in each comp. I also absolutely stand by my belief that you cannot compare last season's fixtures with this season's as a qualifying (or even a quantifying) criteria because of all the variables involved.

Not aimed at you at all buddy (god ye short arsed people don't half get paranoid )

I understand those that say that you cant compare corresponding fixtures but my comment was directed at those who say that but still claim that we have improved based on a position in the table which has been influenced by a softer fixture list than last season - there has to be a level of consistency but those that try to radiate positivity seem to believe that it is ok to compare when it suggests that everything is rosy