THE WENGER THREAD

[Clash]

For me, Wenger should have gone 4 or 5 years ago but there's nothing we can do about that now. We can do something about the future though and I do not see any justification at all to offer him another deal. Not one thing he has done or achieved in recent seasons justifies a new 3 year contract.

The problem is that with Wenger, 3 more years will literally mean 3 more years. He wont resign no matter what humiliations we might suffer and he wont be sacked.

Not offering him a new deal is not the same as sacking him so his followers can at least take some comfort in that. Letting him go now also doesn't involve paying him compensation.

I'm stating the bleeding obvious I know but its just so obviously the right time to go our separate ways that I could tear my fucking hair out that we're not looking like taking this perfect opportunity to make a fresh start this summer.

[Block93]

I think Mr W seriously needs to bite the bullet and face ther press now to actually answer (not prevaricate) the questions that supporters (and media) have been asking for years and years....did we have money to spend, if so, how much, and if not, explain why not. If we have money, then Q2 is why haven't we spent some of it to help us genuinely compete for trophies? The argument that you only buy better than the players you have is a fallacy, as successful teams operate with a squad, and presumably some in that squad are better than others. When Aguero stubs his toe, you don't get a City supporter suggesting they play Milner up front (cf Oxlade-Chamberlain post), they just get Dzeko or Jovetic or Negredo to fill in. They're not as good as Aguero but they're better than an Aguero when Aguero is sitting at home watching Corrie with a bandage on his toe. At present, Giroud is that Aguero. He'll be back, but we need something now. Obviously Podolski's no good in Arsene's eyes, he's having a nice rest prior to 10 goals in the World Cup, with Ozil no doubt assisting on a few and Draxler playing lke the new Messi. Anyway, two big games coming up, and when we win them both comfortably then everything will go away again for a few days....

[DB10GOONER]

I just am at a loss to understand how fans refuse to see how dire we are ? Toothless, paceless and gutless is what sums up this team and fans see this and recognise the need for changing tactics but still defend wenker

We have been top for most of the season and have been told that we are much improved on last season but yet the facts say otherwise. We are told that it impossible to compare last seasons results against the same teams but yet we are meant to compare last seasons form to this season ? On what fcuking basis then ? Why is it unfair to compare last seasons results against the same teams this year cos it doesnt factor in line up changes/transfers/injuries etc, but at the same time it is deemed fair to proclaim that this season we have improved from where we were at this stage last season but no factoring in the differences in the fixture lists from last season ? These people need to make their fcuking mind up.....either it is ok to compare and if so accept that we are actually worse off points wise from the corresponding fixtures, or stick with the theory that it is impossible to accurately compare and if so stop claiming that we have improved until the season is over and when all the results are in

Not sure if this is addressed at me for my post yesterday but I'll assume it is. Augie, I never said we HAD improved. I'd always leave that final summation until the end of the season as it would be dictated by where we finish in each comp. I also absolutely stand by my belief that you cannot compare last season's fixtures with this season's as a qualifying (or even a quantifying) criteria because of all the variables involved.

Not aimed at you at all buddy (god ye short arsed people don't half get paranoid )

I understand those that say that you cant compare corresponding fixtures but my comment was directed at those who say that but still claim that we have improved based on a position in the table which has been influenced by a softer fixture list than last season - there has to be a level of consistency but those that try to radiate positivity seem to believe that it is ok to compare when it suggests that everything is rosy

Yeah, I think we were wires crossed there (but not in the prison cell love-in sense! ). I agree that it's silly to say we have improved without looking at the actual teams we have played. We've bullied the relegation fodder, been outclassed, outfought and outpassed by the top teams.

[rodders999]

5 years ago I said Arsenal would never win another trophy under Wenger. I am now going to upgrade that to say that Arsenal will never beat City, Chavs or United (who are absolute toilet ) home or away ever again while Le Turnip is in charge. The man is a bottle job,a gutless loser, a fraud and a disgrace

[augie]

5 years ago I said Arsenal would never win another trophy under Wenger. I am now going to upgrade that to say that Arsenal will never beat City, Chavs or United (who are absolute toilet ) home or away ever again while Le Turnip is in charge. The man is a bottle job,a gutless loser, a fraud and a disgrace

2009 ?? You are only a newbie rodders - you should have been on here in 2007 when I started questioning wenker......I got some interesting feedback I can tell you

[clockender1]

i think that when/if we get dicked again by Liverpool its time for the fans to protest outside the main entrance after the Game.

Wenger needs to go NOW.

[clockender1]

i think that when/if we get dicked again by Liverpool its time for the fans to protest outside the main entrance after the Game.

Wenger needs to go NOW.

[augie]

How soon will it be before it is announced that le cock has signed his new deal ? Siomebody should run a book on it

[Gunner Rob]

i think that when/if we get dicked again by Liverpool its time for the fans to protest outside the main entrance after the Game.

Wenger needs to go NOW.

there won't be protests whilst we are still 2nd.
when we drop down to 4th or 5th in March then I think the mood might start to turn a bit ugly though.

[Gunner Rob]

How soon will it be before it is announced that le cock has signed his new deal ? Siomebody should run a book on it

I reckon it will be the Monday after the historic victory at Norwich City when we will scrape into the top 4 for the 17th season in a row

[Ryanswannell]

i think that when/if we get dicked again by Liverpool its time for the fans to protest outside the main entrance after the Game.

Wenger needs to go NOW.

IF we lose that game I really do hope this happens. The fans seem to be much less tolerable this season (those boos after last nights game would never have happened last season or before, but (thankfully) more people are becoming aware that Wenger is a huge problem at this club.

However, I don't see a protest happening unless its another HUGE dicking like last week.

[rodders999]

5 years ago I said Arsenal would never win another trophy under Wenger. I am now going to upgrade that to say that Arsenal will never beat City, Chavs or United (who are absolute toilet ) home or away ever again while Le Turnip is in charge. The man is a bottle job,a gutless loser, a fraud and a disgrace

2009 ?? You are only a newbie rodders - you should have been on here in 2007 when I started questioning wenker......I got some interesting feedback I can tell you

I must have a look back through some old posts to see you getting owned

Boo's at full time last night and we're only 2 games into the collapse, I think my prediction of widespread angst by March is well on the cards

Try and offer him a contract then Gazidis you cretinous bastard

[augie]

How soon will it be before it is announced that le cock has signed his new deal ? Siomebody should run a book on it

I reckon it will be the Monday after the historic victory at Norwich City when we will scrape into the top 4 for the 17th season in a row

If he hasnt signed by easter then he is out the door in the summer imo

[rodders999]

How soon will it be before it is announced that le cock has signed his new deal ? Siomebody should run a book on it

I reckon it will be the Monday after the historic victory at Norwich City when we will scrape into the top 4 for the 17th season in a row

If he hasnt signed by easter then he is out the door in the summer imo

Welcome to the enlightened side Augie, his goose is cooked

[LDB]

Booing at full time was the epitome of pathetic. Thankfully it didn't seem too widespread.