THE WENGER THREAD

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Maybe we could make a joint bid from Dortmund

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/03/19 ... placement/

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The burning question though is who Mrs W will be laying out with :shock:

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QuartzGooner wrote: With that in mind, who would people have as their top three realistic replacements?


Remi Garde
Marco Van Basten
De Boer
Paulo Bento

or we could go for another old woman - Hope Powell ?

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Ryanswannell wrote:
northbank123 wrote:
remigardeshair wrote: 1. Klopp: Don't think it's unrealistic. He built a great team at Dortmund, last year saw Bayern beat them to the post on all 3 fronts and now like previous Bundesliga champions Bayern have muscled them into submission. Bayern have won the title by November the last two seasons and have poached their two best players (with one seemingly making his mind up to screw Dortmund over and go on a free 18-24 months before his contract ended). How pissed off must he be? Certainly seems it judging by how often he's pulled up for his touchline behaviour. Imo he must be pretty fucked off at being unable to really challenge Bayern and would love a chance to manage in the PL where - despite what some would tell you - the competition is a lot fairer than Germany. He would be the most difficult of the three to get and it would depend who else was looking for a manager at the time but I think if we offered him a deal on the sort of money Wenger trousers from the club it would seriously tempt him to leave Dortmund. Especially if Bayern beat them on all three fronts again this season.
Whenever father or brother AKB churn out the old "who would be get?" load of bollox, this mans name is first of several that comes out of my mouth.

It's entirely possible we could land Klopp after Wengers rein for reasons others have said (large, prestigious club, high salary etc.) He certainly wouldn't stick with buying crocks and is aware that substitutions can be made off the cuff, amongst other benefits.

On a slightly different note, brother AKB came out with a cracker. I was complaining about Giroud after he fell on his arse and said that it's unbelievable Wenger didn't buy a better striker, to which my brother said "there's no point in complaining because the transfer window is closed and that your complaining won't change anything".

Retard :lol:
Haven't you heard?!?? We spend 24 hours per day scouting every player in the world. We compete with Europe's best. :barscarf:

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Any British manager you feel would be up to the task?

Can't think of many :?

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Chips and Chocolate wrote:Any British manager you feel would be up to the task?

Can't think of many :?
Redknapp / Sherwood dream team, managing the team they support.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
remigardeshair wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:I think nearly every manager in world football would be interested in the job, though a small group such as Pellegrini, Mourinho, Klopp, Rodgers and Guardiola would be very unlikely to take it at present.
With that in mind, who would people have as their top three realistic replacements?

Simeone
Benitez
Martinez
Northbank123 makes a point that Simeone has not had Premier League experience.
Good point.
So, if Wenger signs for two or three more years this summer, I would like to throw another name out there for if Wenger leaves in 2016 or 2017.

Klopp would have to be considered, but if we are looking for experience of managing here and probable availability in two or three years time -

Carlo Ancelotti.

A double winning manager in this country, very experienced, plays good football, Real Madrid contract expires summer 2016, would be 57 years old.

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That reference to Redknapp made me think, this season isn't entirely unlike his last at Spurs. Found a successful formula early on in the season and played it every week, running players into the ground. Second half of the season teams wise up a bit, players get knackered/injured, loss of form and confidence and no idea how to change it and the season starts to stall.

Obviously we are a much better team than they were, we are in a better position and a we're not a scummy club. But imo there are some parallels.

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northbank123 wrote:That reference to Redknapp made me think, this season isn't entirely unlike his last at Spurs. Found a successful formula early on in the season and played it every week, running players into the ground. Second half of the season teams wise up a bit, players get knackered/injured, loss of form and confidence and no idea how to change it and the season starts to stall.

Obviously we are a much better team than they were, we are in a better position and a we're not a scummy club. But imo there are some parallels.
Also, the majority of our fans aren't impacted cuntwounds. :rubchin:

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QuartzGooner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
remigardeshair wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:I think nearly every manager in world football would be interested in the job, though a small group such as Pellegrini, Mourinho, Klopp, Rodgers and Guardiola would be very unlikely to take it at present.
With that in mind, who would people have as their top three realistic replacements?

Simeone
Benitez
Martinez
Northbank123 makes a point that Simeone has not had Premier League experience.
Good point.
So, if Wenger signs for two or three more years this summer, I would like to throw another name out there for if Wenger leaves in 2016 or 2017.

Klopp would have to be considered, but if we are looking for experience of managing here and probable availability in two or three years time -

Carlo Ancelotti.

A double winning manager in this country, very experienced, plays good football, Real Madrid contract expires summer 2016, would be 57 years old.
What Premier League experience did Maureen have when he took over at the chavs?
What Premier League experience did Wenger have when he took over here?
What Premier League experience did Fergie have when he took over at Manure?

If we want someone with Premier League experience, let's get Big Fat Sam, he's got plenty! :lol:

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I think Simeone has proved he can handle pressure, and to achieve what he has with Atletico is highly impressive. Make no mistake even though it has been a two horse race for many years Atletico have made a big impact in La Liga and the trophies won domestically and continental as well as the league challenges would convince me he has what it takes, Premier League experience or not.

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1989 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
remigardeshair wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:I think nearly every manager in world football would be interested in the job, though a small group such as Pellegrini, Mourinho, Klopp, Rodgers and Guardiola would be very unlikely to take it at present.
With that in mind, who would people have as their top three realistic replacements?

Simeone
Benitez
Martinez
Northbank123 makes a point that Simeone has not had Premier League experience.
Good point.
So, if Wenger signs for two or three more years this summer, I would like to throw another name out there for if Wenger leaves in 2016 or 2017.

Klopp would have to be considered, but if we are looking for experience of managing here and probable availability in two or three years time -

Carlo Ancelotti.

A double winning manager in this country, very experienced, plays good football, Real Madrid contract expires summer 2016, would be 57 years old.
What Premier League experience did Maureen have when he took over at the chavs?
What Premier League experience did Wenger have when he took over here?
What Premier League experience did Fergie have when he took over at Manure?

If we want someone with Premier League experience, let's get Big Fat Sam, he's got plenty! :lol:
I'm not saying it's a prerequisite, just something to consider. I don't watch a ton of foreign football but I've seen enough down the years to know that the tactics and moreover philosophy of Spanish + South American football teams is very different. The lesser teams are a lot more cavalier than they are in the PL, where title challengers can expect more than half the teams they face to show no real endeavour and will just try and bully and cheat their way to a result.

Would Simeone deal with that effectively week in week out? Given his personality as a player and his managerial background (Argentinian managing in Argentina and Spain) combined with his young age for a manager I would have reservations.

On the other hand maybe he'd be tactically brilliant and his bold approach would more often than not prove just what was needed against sides we would normally have difficulty breaking down. I can't say, but it would be foolish not to consider it as an important factor.
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1989 wrote:
What Premier League experience did Fergie have when he took over at Manure?
None.
It did not exist until eight seasons later.

OK, I am nitpicking with that one.

But whilst the three managers you mention have done well without top flight experience in England, I will name three overseas managers who have floundered when confronted by the speed of the game here and the mind-set of some of the players:

Christian Gross
Jacques Santini
Juande Ramos

Oh wait, they all had something else in common :D

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QuartzGooner wrote: But whilst the three managers you mention have done well without top flight experience in England, I will name three overseas managers who have floundered when confronted by the speed of the game here and the mind-set of some of the players:

Christian Gross
Jacques Santini
Juande Ramos


Oh wait, they all had something else in common :D
Ah yes, the Holy Trinity. We should thank God every day for providing them. 8) :barscarf:

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What time is the big announcement today then lads? :barscarf:

Because if not today, when? Believe :barscarf:

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QuartzGooner wrote:
1989 wrote:
What Premier League experience did Fergie have when he took over at Manure?
None.
It did not exist until eight seasons later.

OK, I am nitpicking with that one.D
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