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Post by Babatunde »

Question of the day: name a single PL club that would have Park or Chamakh anywhere near their starting 11?

LOL

If the answer is NONE (and it is), then the question that needs asking is what the fuck these two clowns are doing starting matches for a club of Arsenal's size. Kroenke hinted at it today: we could have so much better, but it's down to AW and his lack of ambition. How much did Jose Enrique cost again?

Arsene Knows (fuck all).

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Who said it would be quite on here this week :wink:

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arsenalmorris wrote:
Chippy wrote:
arsenalmorris wrote:
Chippy wrote:Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Andre Santos, Song, Ramsey, Arteta, Walcott, Gervinho, Park.

Apart from RVP prob our strongest available. but that's a massive "apart". Not worth the gamble IMO.
im happy with the change, think we will qualify easy and save him for the weekend which is just as important game, can always bring him on if all not gonig to plan
Did you copy and paste this from last season? I'd have put RVP on and as soon as we were a couple in front take him off. Bringing him on to turn it round in the last 20 mins is very risky.
haha i no its risky, i think we will be ok, we will see in about 2 hours wnt we if it paid off, lets hope i am right :D
you win chippy

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Babatunde wrote:Wow. Judging by the post-Chelski reaction I was expecting to see a brilliant free-flowing destructive attacking machine.
why? :? I get you're being sarcastic, but I don't get why... we're doing ok for an ok side... we're not the Arsenal of old, we all know that. Why keep punishing yourself by expecting Henry to burst through the middle from a Dennis pass.... it ain't going to happen, mate. Thank God we had those great days.

This was an average performance but no disgrace in the context of the group. We're top of our CL group and that's the main thing. I'm confident we'll qualify and after our recent run of results, I see no need to overreact with more endless negativity.

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Post by piresistible »

errm yeh Wenger really should play the 11 that played on saturday and when one of them gets injured i wonder who'll be to blame :roll:

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g88ner wrote:
Babatunde wrote:Wow. Judging by the post-Chelski reaction I was expecting to see a brilliant free-flowing destructive attacking machine.
why? :? I get you're being sarcastic, but I don't get why... we're doing ok for an ok side... we're not the Arsenal of old, we all know that. Why keep punishing yourself by expecting Henry to burst through the middle from a Dennis pass.... it ain't going to happen, mate. Thank God we had those great days.

This was an average performance but no disgrace in the context of the group. We're top of our CL group and that's the main thing. I'm confident we'll qualify and after our recent run of results, I see no need to overreact with more endless negativity.

How this team play and perform from one game to the next shouldn't surprise you that much. It really shouldn't.
This.

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g88ner wrote:
Babatunde wrote:Wow. Judging by the post-Chelski reaction I was expecting to see a brilliant free-flowing destructive attacking machine.
why? :? I get you're being sarcastic, but I don't get why... we're doing ok for an ok side... we're not the Arsenal of old, we all know that. Why keep punishing yourself by expecting Henry to burst through the middle from a Dennis pass.... it ain't going to happen, mate. Thank God we had those great days.

This was an average performance but no disgrace in the context of the group. We're top of our CL group and that's the main thing. I'm confident we'll qualify and after our recent run of results, I see no need to overreact with more endless negativity.
Yeah you're right but the thing is that we SHOULD be that good. We let class players go without replacing them. Good players were available in the summer - the likes of Mata and Jose Enrique who would have signed for us, and yet he went for Arteta and Santos. Everyone knows we're fucked if RVP gets injured, so he signs Park... I mean what kind of signing is that? And then they say the money is there? It defies rational thought.

There's no reason this team should have fallen from the heights of 2004 and yet year by year the team has been dismantled. We've brought in one or two good players but generally it's been getting weaker season after season and there's no excuse for it.

Tonight's game simply highlights how weak the squad is IMO.

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Ok I get it. I'm being ambitious, and that's not what Arsenal is about anymore these days. I need to be content with Jenkinson, Park and Chamakh and if I'm not contented with watching those lot then I should piss off down the Lane. Yep.
Also, it's obviously silly to mention the point that Wenger took a stupid, unnecessary gamble by resting RVP instead of starting him, and playing an experimental side. Still. You're not allowed to be critical after a poor result (it's a poor result), and you're never allowed to be critical after a win either.
So in short, you're never allowed to be critical. Right ok thanks....
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Do you ever get sick of whining :)

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worthing_gooner wrote:
g88ner wrote:
Babatunde wrote:Wow. Judging by the post-Chelski reaction I was expecting to see a brilliant free-flowing destructive attacking machine.
why? :? I get you're being sarcastic, but I don't get why... we're doing ok for an ok side... we're not the Arsenal of old, we all know that. Why keep punishing yourself by expecting Henry to burst through the middle from a Dennis pass.... it ain't going to happen, mate. Thank God we had those great days.

This was an average performance but no disgrace in the context of the group. We're top of our CL group and that's the main thing. I'm confident we'll qualify and after our recent run of results, I see no need to overreact with more endless negativity.
Yeah you're right but the thing is that we SHOULD be that good. We let class players go without replacing them. Good players were available in the summer - the likes of Mata and Jose Enrique who would have signed for us, and yet he went for Arteta and Santos. Everyone knows we're fucked if RVP gets injured, so he signs Park... I mean what kind of signing is that? And then they say the money is there? It defies rational thought.

There's no reason this team should have fallen from the heights of 2004 and yet year by year the team has been dismantled. We've brought in one or two good players but generally it's been getting weaker season after season and there's no excuse for it.

Tonight's game simply highlights how weak the squad is IMO.
Well said. THIS.

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Predicted a 0-0 and was not surprised in the least.

I figured the team would be a little dull after the Chelsea game, both from tiredness and from overconfidence. How many games have we seen under Wenger where we see a committed, brilliant performance against a top team, followed by 3-7 days later a game where we play like the same old mediocre Arsenal?

I have no fault with the team today, but it is certain that this team gets complacent easily. Hopefully that doesn't cost us first place in the CL group this year, or a trophy at Wembley.

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mcdowell42 wrote:Do you ever get sick of whining :)
And do you ever get sick of tinting?

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Dont think i am a rosetinter i want wenger out but with you its non stop whinging you couldnt whinge at the weekend because us beating chelsea fucked up your plans.

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Babatunde wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Do you ever get sick of whining :)
And do you ever get sick of tinting?
he's not tiniting dumdum...you're quick to run off when we win and spring back all of a sudden when the stciks are down

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Babatunde wrote:
worthing_gooner wrote:
g88ner wrote:
Babatunde wrote:Wow. Judging by the post-Chelski reaction I was expecting to see a brilliant free-flowing destructive attacking machine.
why? :? I get you're being sarcastic, but I don't get why... we're doing ok for an ok side... we're not the Arsenal of old, we all know that. Why keep punishing yourself by expecting Henry to burst through the middle from a Dennis pass.... it ain't going to happen, mate. Thank God we had those great days.

This was an average performance but no disgrace in the context of the group. We're top of our CL group and that's the main thing. I'm confident we'll qualify and after our recent run of results, I see no need to overreact with more endless negativity.
Yeah you're right but the thing is that we SHOULD be that good. We let class players go without replacing them. Good players were available in the summer - the likes of Mata and Jose Enrique who would have signed for us, and yet he went for Arteta and Santos. Everyone knows we're fucked if RVP gets injured, so he signs Park... I mean what kind of signing is that? And then they say the money is there? It defies rational thought.

There's no reason this team should have fallen from the heights of 2004 and yet year by year the team has been dismantled. We've brought in one or two good players but generally it's been getting weaker season after season and there's no excuse for it.

Tonight's game simply highlights how weak the squad is IMO.
Well said. THIS.
But that's all well established, isn't it? - doesn't the endless negativity get a bit boring after a while? it just seems that every post has to remind us all we're shit and it's all Wenger's fault.

We get it. Can't we just put it in our signatures that we think Wenger should go and that the team isn't very good, and then try and climb out of this bottomless pit of negativity?

Surely some things are so well established now that they don't need endlessly repeating, that's all.

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