PAT RICE

[QuartzGooner]

Respect to Pat Rice who was a true Arsenal man, a genuine legend for the club.

Pleased with Bould's appointment, but significant doubt as to how much input he will be allowed to have by Wenger.

[richie]

Pat Rice is Arsenal through and through and has served the club fantastically in my opinion.Steve Bould has the potential to move things forward but i get the feeling we could have fergie,guardiola and mourinho as our backroom staff and still Wenger wouldn't listen to them much........lets hope i'm wrong.

[StuartL]

Happy retirement to Pat after many years dedicated to our club.

My abiding memory is of him in the dug out at Anfield 89 with those awful glasses on, out of his seat in the last few seconds awaiting the final whistle.

[spid]

Announced this afternoon. Can't believe it's not being discussed 12 hours later.

What does it mean?

Is he there because he is being a good boy, or does Wenger realise he needs to start teaching defenders how to defend?

I can't imagine Bould is a yes man and just wants the cash.

Does this mean we might actually start preparing for when we don't have the ball? Will he introduce a little discipline to our free spirited, spineless, pampered, pompus, cowardly, pressure fearing bunch of overpaid underacheivers?

He has a lot of work to do. This culture of self-satisfaction has to go.

[1989]

Steve Bould is the new assistant manager, just heard from a very reliable source.

[DB10GOONER]

According to some of the idiots on here that obviously know fucking nothing about the game, the reason Wenger has failed to win fuck all over the last 7 seasons is now leaving the club, so Arsene will be delivering a good old Treble next year now, huh?! Yippee!!

[arseofacrow]

According to some of the idiots on here that obviously know fucking nothing about the game, the reason Wenger has failed to win fuck all over the last 7 seasons is now leaving the club, so Arsene will be delivering a good old Treble next year now, huh?! Yippee!!

finally, wenger's handcuffs have been taken off.

[OneBardGooner]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... rs-at-club

44 years and all he got was a fairwell BBQ, well thanks a bloody lot!!

If they'd have given him anything shiny, Wenger and the board would have counted it as a trophy.

I just hope he is able to enjoy his retirement with his family etc,and that his retirement has nothing to do with ill health....Thank-You Ricey!!

[augie]

The very fact that he has appointed his own assistant doesnt give Gooners like me who want shot of wenger much encouragement

[DB10GOONER]

The very fact that he has appointed his own assistant doesnt give Gooners like me who want shot of wenger much encouragement

Historically, the manager nearly always does, but I take your point and agree with it, augie. I hope Bouldy will bring his own thinking to the job but my gut feeling is he wouldn't have been given the job if he did...

Still, we'll have to give the man (a legend) the chance to prove us both wrong, huh?

[franksav63]

Yep, every team at our club from the first team down to the woman's team play in the same one dimensional way, we'll see no difference with Bouldy as his number 2 just a continution of the same shit, with just a smattering of the occasional good results and performances, we'll see no significant change until Wenger has gone and the whole club has been rid of his antiquated and out of date ways.

[mikeyb772001]

Yep, every team at our club from the first team down to the woman's team play in the same one dimensional way, we'll see no difference with Bouldy as his number 2 just a continution of the same shit, with just a smattering of the occasional good results and performances, we'll see no significant change until Wenger has gone and the whole club has been rid of his antiquated and out of date ways.

This is right. The youth team play the same way, with THE SAME DEFENSIVE PROBLEMS, IF NOT WORSE.

Bould is already a yes man. Nothing will change if anything its worse than pat rice

[g88ner]

Yep, every team at our club from the first team down to the woman's team play in the same one dimensional way, we'll see no difference with Bouldy as his number 2 just a continution of the same shit, with just a smattering of the occasional good results and performances, we'll see no significant change until Wenger has gone and the whole club has been rid of his antiquated and out of date ways.

This is right. The youth team play the same way, with THE SAME DEFENSIVE PROBLEMS, IF NOT WORSE.

Bould is already a yes man. Nothing will change if anything its worse than pat rice

worse? is that even posisble?

I'm surprised you say that, as I thought you'd be in the camp that doubts whether Pat Rice had much or ANY influence on tactics at all.

And as I doubt Rice has much influence, I can only really see Bould either being an improvement or having no impact whatsoever. It can't possibly make the players less committed? or less tactically aware, surely??

And when you listen to ex-players, they always seem to talk about what a great bloke Rice is, but never seem to praise his amazing tactical brain or anything, so the worst thing I can imagine happening is that the players lose a "friend", and that's probably not a bad thing as they look too comfortable to me.

[mikeyb772001]

Yep, every team at our club from the first team down to the woman's team play in the same one dimensional way, we'll see no difference with Bouldy as his number 2 just a continution of the same shit, with just a smattering of the occasional good results and performances, we'll see no significant change until Wenger has gone and the whole club has been rid of his antiquated and out of date ways.

This is right. The youth team play the same way, with THE SAME DEFENSIVE PROBLEMS, IF NOT WORSE.

Bould is already a yes man. Nothing will change if anything its worse than pat rice

worse? is that even posisble?

I'm surprised you say that, as I thought you'd be in the camp that doubts whether Pat Rice had much or ANY influence on tactics at all.

And as I doubt Rice has much influence, I can only really see Bould either being an improvement or having no impact whatsoever. It can't possibly make the players less committed? or less tactically aware, surely??

And when you listen to ex-players, they always seem to talk about what a great bloke Rice is, but never seem to praise his amazing tactical brain or anything, so the worst thing I can imagine happening is that the players lose a "friend", and that's probably not a bad thing as they look too comfortable to me.

good point. But i worry as i have watched the youth team and they seem worse defensively than the first team. Hard to imagine bould coaches that team with his vast background!

Tippy tappy non productive football. Not a hint of GG back 4 in that team at all.

[g88ner]

Yep, every team at our club from the first team down to the woman's team play in the same one dimensional way, we'll see no difference with Bouldy as his number 2 just a continution of the same shit, with just a smattering of the occasional good results and performances, we'll see no significant change until Wenger has gone and the whole club has been rid of his antiquated and out of date ways.

This is right. The youth team play the same way, with THE SAME DEFENSIVE PROBLEMS, IF NOT WORSE.

Bould is already a yes man. Nothing will change if anything its worse than pat rice

worse? is that even posisble?

I'm surprised you say that, as I thought you'd be in the camp that doubts whether Pat Rice had much or ANY influence on tactics at all.

And as I doubt Rice has much influence, I can only really see Bould either being an improvement or having no impact whatsoever. It can't possibly make the players less committed? or less tactically aware, surely??

And when you listen to ex-players, they always seem to talk about what a great bloke Rice is, but never seem to praise his amazing tactical brain or anything, so the worst thing I can imagine happening is that the players lose a "friend", and that's probably not a bad thing as they look too comfortable to me.

good point. But i worry as i have watched the youth team and they seem worse defensively than the first team. Hard to imagine bould coaches that team with his vast background!

Tippy tappy non productive football. Not a hint of GG back 4 in that team at all.

Yeah, I think that's fair. The youth team is even worse defensively than the first team, so I think we're all a little concerned about whether Bould can make an impact on that front.

And for that reason, I think I would have preferred an assistant who hadn't been brainwashed by Wenger.

BUT Bould was one of Graham's men, so HOPEFULLY he's been like an assassin, conforming to Wenger's tippy tappy shite until he'd gained Wenger's confidence.... and now he has that, he'll unleash his full defensive assault on this club and get that back four tied together with rope like back in the old days!

Fingers crossed he can, but I'm not holding my breath.