As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
I sincerely hope that we get the toughest draw that we can possibly get and then get knocked out at the group stages by finishing bottom of our group - it appears that going 7 years without a trophy or setting a new club record for heaviest defeat in our history or losing a load of our top players has convinced the people running our club of the need for change so maybe hitting them where it hurts the most........in the pocket I don't feel good wishing bad results on our club but the bottom line is that we are now a club purely driven by profits and if the yank isnt getting the financial returns he expects then he will either realize that changes are needed or else he might bail out and allow an owner t.o take over with aspirations to bring success back to club. The akb used to claim that failing to make champs lge would severely weaken our ability to retain our best players and entice top players into the club well guess what, we can't hold onto our best players anyway and are never in the market for the top players so what is the point of this ?
"You dont get in pot A of the champions league by accident it takes consistancy, I dont hear anyone bitching about that"
When I read that I just died a little inside for the state of our fanbase now. So desparate are the AKB's they are now crowing about pots in defence of wenger. Ill tell you about a pot im thinking about, and its got piss in it.
The worst possible draw we could get would be getting Borussia Dortmund from Pot 4.
Nothing else we could end up with would be as bad as that outcome.
I fully expect to draw them later.
I will make my first positive comment of the season and say that it is an achievement for Arsenal to be in pot A.
The club has consistently proved to be one of the best clubs in Europe over the last 15 years and that is all down to Wenger.
The problem is that there have been no trophies to back this up in recent years and there are almost certainly going to be trophies for the forseeable future whilst Kroenke asset strips the club.
augie wrote:I sincerely hope that we get the toughest draw that we can possibly get and then get knocked out at the group stages by finishing bottom of our group - it appears that going 7 years without a trophy or setting a new club record for heaviest defeat in our history or losing a load of our top players has convinced the people running our club of the need for change so maybe hitting them where it hurts the most........in the pocket I don't feel good wishing bad results on our club but the bottom line is that we are now a club purely driven by profits and if the yank isnt getting the financial returns he expects then he will either realize that changes are needed or else he might bail out and allow an owner t.o take over with aspirations to bring success back to club. The akb used to claim that failing to make champs lge would severely weaken our ability to retain our best players and entice top players into the club well guess what, we can't hold onto our best players anyway and are never in the market for the top players so what is the point of this ?
Can't say I disagree with the 'keeping best players' bit. The thing is that Newcastle, Spuds and Liverpool are proof that you don't need CL footy to get good players.
For us, the CL is a giant marketplace where we can put our best players in the shop window. The problem with that is that once you run out of good product, then what?
augie wrote:I sincerely hope that we get the toughest draw that we can possibly get and then get knocked out at the group stages by finishing bottom of our group - it appears that going 7 years without a trophy or setting a new club record for heaviest defeat in our history or losing a load of our top players has convinced the people running our club of the need for change so maybe hitting them where it hurts the most........in the pocket I don't feel good wishing bad results on our club but the bottom line is that we are now a club purely driven by profits and if the yank isnt getting the financial returns he expects then he will either realize that changes are needed or else he might bail out and allow an owner t.o take over with aspirations to bring success back to club. The akb used to claim that failing to make champs lge would severely weaken our ability to retain our best players and entice top players into the club well guess what, we can't hold onto our best players anyway and are never in the market for the top players so what is the point of this ?
Can't say I disagree with the 'keeping best players' bit. The thing is that Newcastle, Spuds and Liverpool are proof that you don't need CL footy to get good players.
For us, the CL is a giant marketplace where we can put our best players in the shop window. The problem with that is that once you run out of good product, then what?
augie wrote:I sincerely hope that we get the toughest draw that we can possibly get and then get knocked out at the group stages by finishing bottom of our group - it appears that going 7 years without a trophy or setting a new club record for heaviest defeat in our history or losing a load of our top players has convinced the people running our club of the need for change so maybe hitting them where it hurts the most........in the pocket I don't feel good wishing bad results on our club but the bottom line is that we are now a club purely driven by profits and if the yank isnt getting the financial returns he expects then he will either realize that changes are needed or else he might bail out and allow an owner t.o take over with aspirations to bring success back to club. The akb used to claim that failing to make champs lge would severely weaken our ability to retain our best players and entice top players into the club well guess what, we can't hold onto our best players anyway and are never in the market for the top players so what is the point of this ?
Can't say I disagree with the 'keeping best players' bit. The thing is that Newcastle, Spuds and Liverpool are proof that you don't need CL footy to get good players.
For us, the CL is a giant marketplace where we can put our best players in the shop window. The problem with that is that once you run out of good product, then what?
Maybe not to get good players but certainly to sign the biggest names. We are in a far far far better position than those clubs to get the best players, we just don't exploit it.
George Weah pays tribute to Arsene, 'father figure', and thanks Wenger for bringing him to Monaco.
Those halcyon days when Wenger was good at being a football manager.