Realistic Replacements for Wenger

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Our Board will never appoint Simeone because they'd know he won't pander to them and furthermore they'd be shit scared of him.

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:Our Board will never appoint Simeone because they'd know he won't pander to them and furthermore they'd be shit scared of him.
Exactly this... it'll be some no mark wanker recommended by Mr Know's himself! :banghead:

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augie wrote:
gp543 wrote:Simeone celebrating Atleti scoring against Real in the cup today with his son. I know it doesn't mean much in the long run, but it only increases my respect and admiration for the man.

https://vine.co/v/Oph5XLwFOln


Maybe but it does show the absolute passion of the man - we have a manager that mostly sits on his arse during the game, and I would love to have a manager on the sidelines constantly communicating with his players and issuing instruction. I dont know how much of what he is shouting can be classed as tactical changes etc, but I do know that his constant cajoling of his players demands and gets 100% effort for every minute of the game. We have maybe four players (sanchez, debouchy, kos and flamoney :oops: ) who could fit seemlessly into his team structure such is the laissez faire attitude that runs through this squad, and a change of manager to a simeone or klopp would at least see a major improvement in our team regardless of any player recruitment
Agreed 100%.

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arseofacrow wrote:
gp543 wrote:Simeone celebrating Atleti scoring against Real in the cup today with his son. I know it doesn't mean much in the long run, but it only increases my respect and admiration for the man.

https://vine.co/v/Oph5XLwFOln
Why does it increase your respect and admiration?

Fair play to the ball boy though...didn't let go of that ball. Very professional. 8)
That he cares enough about his kid to celebrate with him after his side score a goal in arguably one of Atleti's biggest matches all season. His passion is great and a welcome departure from our manager.

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I heard talk this morning of Remi Garde being on the shortlist for the Newcastle post. There seemed to be a thought that if he performs well, he'd be a candidate for us when Wengers contract runs out.

I don't know enough about his management abilities to agree or disagree

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Could you ever see our board appointing a loose cannon/lunatic like Simeone?

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gp543 wrote:
arseofacrow wrote:
gp543 wrote:Simeone celebrating Atleti scoring against Real in the cup today with his son. I know it doesn't mean much in the long run, but it only increases my respect and admiration for the man.

https://vine.co/v/Oph5XLwFOln
Why does it increase your respect and admiration?

Fair play to the ball boy though...didn't let go of that ball. Very professional. 8)
That he cares enough about his kid to celebrate with him after his side score a goal in arguably one of Atleti's biggest matches all season. His passion is great and a welcome departure from our manager.
Fair enough.

On the other hand, perhaps excessive passion can lead to a loss of focus.

:rubchin:

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northbank123 wrote:Could you ever see our board appointing a loose cannon/lunatic like Simeone?
We have more chance of getting Nina Simone as our next manager,can you honestly see Kim Jun Wenger interviewing his replacement with Ivan and employing someone like Simeone?

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He should be the absolute #1 first choice replacement.

Arsenal would see a tactical revolution, and we won't have to fear the worst at OT and Stamford Bridge anymore.

If we don't get him, in 2 years you'll be calling him a *unt as he destroys us with his new team in the PL.

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My worry is that a Wenger recommendation as a replacement could lead to a 'Moyes' situation, and that didn't work out to well for the Manc scum.

More to the point should we end up with a situation like they had i'm not so sure that our board will react in the same way theirs did, it could lead to a lot of prevarication and time wasting which could be even more disastrous in terms of how long it takes to recover as a club.

I really think we need someone with passion, yes it can be an issue but to be honest i'm sick of the boring management at this club currently.

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GoonerMuzz wrote:My worry is that a Wenger recommendation as a replacement could lead to a 'Moyes' situation, and that didn't work out to well for the Manc scum.

More to the point should we end up with a situation like they had i'm not so sure that our board will react in the same way theirs did, it could lead to a lot of prevarication and time wasting which could be even more disastrous in terms of how long it takes to recover as a club.

I really think we need someone with passion, yes it can be an issue but to be honest i'm sick of the boring management at this club currently.



Are you suggesting that their board have acted in a positive way by bringing in the botoxed dutch c.unt ? I would suggest that he has done NOTHING to date that has suggested that he was a good appointment

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I was actually suggesting that at least they replaced their failing manager relatively quickly, i don't think our board will act anywhere near as quickly, and if they do god knows who we'd end up with in a panic.

Lets just say if he goes at the end of his contract and if his replacement comes from one of his own proteges and things go badly 2017/18 could be an interesting time for us fans :rubchin:

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arseofacrow wrote:
gp543 wrote:
arseofacrow wrote:
gp543 wrote:Simeone celebrating Atleti scoring against Real in the cup today with his son. I know it doesn't mean much in the long run, but it only increases my respect and admiration for the man.

https://vine.co/v/Oph5XLwFOln
Why does it increase your respect and admiration?

Fair play to the ball boy though...didn't let go of that ball. Very professional. 8)
That he cares enough about his kid to celebrate with him after his side score a goal in arguably one of Atleti's biggest matches all season. His passion is great and a welcome departure from our manager.
Fair enough.

On the other hand, perhaps excessive passion can lead to a loss of focus.

:rubchin:
I'm sure my mum told me something similar in my youth

Or was it to do with going blind ?

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augie wrote:
GoonerMuzz wrote:My worry is that a Wenger recommendation as a replacement could lead to a 'Moyes' situation, and that didn't work out to well for the Manc scum.

More to the point should we end up with a situation like they had i'm not so sure that our board will react in the same way theirs did, it could lead to a lot of prevarication and time wasting which could be even more disastrous in terms of how long it takes to recover as a club.

I really think we need someone with passion, yes it can be an issue but to be honest i'm sick of the boring management at this club currently.



Are you suggesting that their board have acted in a positive way by bringing in the botoxed dutch c.unt ? I would suggest that he has done NOTHING to date that has suggested that he was a good appointment
Agree with Muzz. They acted. That's the key. There is no guarantee with any managerial appointment. They saw that Moyes was a disaster and they flicked him. Appointing Beavis was a calculated risk (as is any appointment really). He has a winners pedigree. But of course that's no guarantee of success in the PL and with hindsight it's looking like Beavis Features might be shit too. Which is nice. :D

My fear is that (as Muzz says) our Board fuck about for years as Wenger gets worse and worse. And then when Wenger appoints his own successor (and let's be honest, we all know he will), the Board then also fuck about with another useless fucker for years because they are afraid to cross or upset Wenger by sacking his protégé. :|

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DB10GOONER wrote:
augie wrote:
GoonerMuzz wrote:My worry is that a Wenger recommendation as a replacement could lead to a 'Moyes' situation, and that didn't work out to well for the Manc scum.

More to the point should we end up with a situation like they had i'm not so sure that our board will react in the same way theirs did, it could lead to a lot of prevarication and time wasting which could be even more disastrous in terms of how long it takes to recover as a club.

I really think we need someone with passion, yes it can be an issue but to be honest i'm sick of the boring management at this club currently.



Are you suggesting that their board have acted in a positive way by bringing in the botoxed dutch c.unt ? I would suggest that he has done NOTHING to date that has suggested that he was a good appointment
Agree with Muzz. They acted. That's the key. There is no guarantee with any managerial appointment. They saw that Moyes was a disaster and they flicked him. Appointing Beavis was a calculated risk (as is any appointment really). He has a winners pedigree. But of course that's no guarantee of success in the PL and with hindsight it's looking like Beavis Features might be shit too. Which is nice. :D

My fear is that (as Muzz says) our Board fuck about for years as Wenger gets worse and worse. And then when Wenger appoints his own successor (and let's be honest, we all know he will), the Board then also fuck about with another useless fucker for years because they are afraid to cross or upset Wenger by sacking his protégé. :|


I absolutely agree with the willingness to act bit BUT, maybe they should have acted during moyes reign and given him all the shiny new toys (di maria, shaw, rojo, falcao etc) that they gave van gaal to play with ? Moyes fought with one hand tied behind his back because those above him didn't do their job and recruit players - the real irony in that is that it is generally accepted that they sacked him because they didn't trust him to spend the money wisely, but it was those above him that were tasked with buying the players in the first place :roll:
The contrast to our situation is that in our club wenker decides who we buy, who we sell, the transfer fee's paid and received, the contracts they are awarded, the type of mineral water used etc etc so he cannot say that anybody within the club has prevented him from doing his job properly

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