You're living in fantasy land. If Barca want Bellerin they will buy him whether he is on 30k a week or 300k a week, and the club will cave in and sell him no matter how long is left on his deal.Wilson wrote:If we dont pay Bellerin 100k a week, nor Ozil and Sanchez 200-250k a week, others clubs will.
This is one of the great mysteries - why some fans are so reluctant to see our better players pen big deals, yet at the same time criticize the club for a lack of ambition. The reason Bellerin was tied up to a 6 year deal on 100k a week, is because the interest from Barcelona and Man City was genuine.
About time the club started to take a proactive approach to keep our better players, whilst also paying wages that are competitive relative to clubs like Barcelona and Man City.
Ozil and Sanchez want £250k a week
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But they did want him, yet Bellerin wanted to stay.northbank123 wrote:You're living in fantasy land. If Barca want Bellerin they will buy him whether he is on 30k a week or 300k a week, and the club will cave in and sell him no matter how long is left on his deal.Wilson wrote:If we dont pay Bellerin 100k a week, nor Ozil and Sanchez 200-250k a week, others clubs will.
This is one of the great mysteries - why some fans are so reluctant to see our better players pen big deals, yet at the same time criticize the club for a lack of ambition. The reason Bellerin was tied up to a 6 year deal on 100k a week, is because the interest from Barcelona and Man City was genuine.
About time the club started to take a proactive approach to keep our better players, whilst also paying wages that are competitive relative to clubs like Barcelona and Man City.
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Wilson wrote:But they did want him, yet Bellerin wanted to stay.northbank123 wrote:You're living in fantasy land. If Barca want Bellerin they will buy him whether he is on 30k a week or 300k a week, and the club will cave in and sell him no matter how long is left on his deal.Wilson wrote:If we dont pay Bellerin 100k a week, nor Ozil and Sanchez 200-250k a week, others clubs will.
This is one of the great mysteries - why some fans are so reluctant to see our better players pen big deals, yet at the same time criticize the club for a lack of ambition. The reason Bellerin was tied up to a 6 year deal on 100k a week, is because the interest from Barcelona and Man City was genuine.
About time the club started to take a proactive approach to keep our better players, whilst also paying wages that are competitive relative to clubs like Barcelona and Man City.
And got a very hefty payrise into the bargain

Can anyone remember if cesc or rvp put in a written transfer request when they wanted to leave ? Transfer rules states that, IF they don't put in an official written transfer request, we have to pay up the remainder of their contracts should we sell them - personally I doubt that either of the players I mentioned above needed to put in a transfer request because good old arsene has always allowed his players to leave if they want to do so



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Neither put in a transfer request.Cesc Fabregas spent the last 18 months of his Arsenal career wanting to leave the last two pre-seasons he wanted to go and was surly not disruptive the old 'head had been turned' BS.RVP was slightly different he made his wanting to leave far more open he had asked the summer before would we be strengthening the team Wenger said he could not guarantee we would,contract talks stopped at that point and were never seriously revisited.augie wrote:Wilson wrote:But they did want him, yet Bellerin wanted to stay.northbank123 wrote:You're living in fantasy land. If Barca want Bellerin they will buy him whether he is on 30k a week or 300k a week, and the club will cave in and sell him no matter how long is left on his deal.Wilson wrote:If we dont pay Bellerin 100k a week, nor Ozil and Sanchez 200-250k a week, others clubs will.
This is one of the great mysteries - why some fans are so reluctant to see our better players pen big deals, yet at the same time criticize the club for a lack of ambition. The reason Bellerin was tied up to a 6 year deal on 100k a week, is because the interest from Barcelona and Man City was genuine.
About time the club started to take a proactive approach to keep our better players, whilst also paying wages that are competitive relative to clubs like Barcelona and Man City.
And got a very hefty payrise into the bargain![]()
Can anyone remember if cesc or rvp put in a written transfer request when they wanted to leave ? Transfer rules states that, IF they don't put in an official written transfer request, we have to pay up the remainder of their contracts should we sell them - personally I doubt that either of the players I mentioned above needed to put in a transfer request because good old arsene has always allowed his players to leave if they want to do so![]()
The point I am making is that bellerin is sitting pretty on a mega contract that we will have to pony up for if/when he goes back to barca
All a contract does is preserve and increase the transfer value of the player in the case of a player Bellerin's age.
With regards transfers and request's a lot of the paying up of contract's now actually refer to the bonuses in the contract....don't laugh generally worded as loyalty payments!
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It's not right that you have to pay the rest of their contract if they don't hand in a request - ultimately the contracts are being terminated by mutual consent.
It is relevant to the loyalty bonus clause which seems to be a feature of modern contracts though. And neither Fabregas nor van Persie fancied throwing away a few million pounds so th just engineered a move away whilst the club stood back and let our captain(s) do it.
The van Persie situation was especially unpalatable, as whilst his frustrations were shared by many he came out and took a swipe at the club, manufactured a move to a rival and presumably was paid a few million quid in return for this loyalty. Didn't Fabregas agree to waive a five million quid bonus though to push his deal through?
It is relevant to the loyalty bonus clause which seems to be a feature of modern contracts though. And neither Fabregas nor van Persie fancied throwing away a few million pounds so th just engineered a move away whilst the club stood back and let our captain(s) do it.
The van Persie situation was especially unpalatable, as whilst his frustrations were shared by many he came out and took a swipe at the club, manufactured a move to a rival and presumably was paid a few million quid in return for this loyalty. Didn't Fabregas agree to waive a five million quid bonus though to push his deal through?
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Also, if any player had owed the club some loyalty it'd be VanJudasCunt - and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about that.northbank123 wrote:It's not right that you have to pay the rest of their contract if they don't hand in a request - ultimately the contracts are being terminated by mutual consent.
It is relevant to the loyalty bonus clause which seems to be a feature of modern contracts though. And neither Fabregas nor van Persie fancied throwing away a few million pounds so th just engineered a move away whilst the club stood back and let our captain(s) do it.
The van Persie situation was especially unpalatable, as whilst his frustrations were shared by many he came out and took a swipe at the club, manufactured a move to a rival and presumably was paid a few million quid in return for this loyalty. Didn't Fabregas agree to waive a five million quid bonus though to push his deal through?


I think Fabregas did waive a serious bonus to go, but didn't he also threaten to strike if he didn't get his move...?

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100% Correct on both counts..VanJudasCunt spent more time on the treatment table than on the pitch for Arsenal - But when manure came a calling he was off like a shot....loyalty means nothing...DB10GOONER wrote:Also, if any player had owed the club some loyalty it'd be VanJudasCunt - and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about that.northbank123 wrote:It's not right that you have to pay the rest of their contract if they don't hand in a request - ultimately the contracts are being terminated by mutual consent.
It is relevant to the loyalty bonus clause which seems to be a feature of modern contracts though. And neither Fabregas nor van Persie fancied throwing away a few million pounds so th just engineered a move away whilst the club stood back and let our captain(s) do it.
The van Persie situation was especially unpalatable, as whilst his frustrations were shared by many he came out and took a swipe at the club, manufactured a move to a rival and presumably was paid a few million quid in return for this loyalty. Didn't Fabregas agree to waive a five million quid bonus though to push his deal through?![]()
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I think Fabregas did waive a serious bonus to go, but didn't he also threaten to strike if he didn't get his move...?
Fabregas used his old ties with barcawhores as an excuse - yes, he waived the bonus he was due to receive, but only so that the 'negotiatins' would be sped up....who can forget his laughs & high 5's with all his barca bumchums whilst he was still an Arsenal player and that bit of carelessness - a back heel - that gave them the ball to put the nail in our coffin....
Both extremely good players both cun.ts.
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Yep both can do one......how Fabregas is pictured on the outside of the stadiumOneBardGooner wrote:100% Correct on both counts..VanJudasCunt spent more time on the treatment table than on the pitch for Arsenal - But when manure came a calling he was off like a shot....loyalty means nothing...DB10GOONER wrote:Also, if any player had owed the club some loyalty it'd be VanJudasCunt - and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about that.northbank123 wrote:It's not right that you have to pay the rest of their contract if they don't hand in a request - ultimately the contracts are being terminated by mutual consent.
It is relevant to the loyalty bonus clause which seems to be a feature of modern contracts though. And neither Fabregas nor van Persie fancied throwing away a few million pounds so th just engineered a move away whilst the club stood back and let our captain(s) do it.
The van Persie situation was especially unpalatable, as whilst his frustrations were shared by many he came out and took a swipe at the club, manufactured a move to a rival and presumably was paid a few million quid in return for this loyalty. Didn't Fabregas agree to waive a five million quid bonus though to push his deal through?![]()
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I think Fabregas did waive a serious bonus to go, but didn't he also threaten to strike if he didn't get his move...?
Fabregas used his old ties with barcawhores as an excuse - yes, he waived the bonus he was due to receive, but only so that the 'negotiatins' would be sped up....who can forget his laughs & high 5's with all his barca bumchums whilst he was still an Arsenal player and that bit of carelessness - a back heel - that gave them the ball to put the nail in our coffin....
Both extremely good players both cun.ts.

With the CL game he declared himself fit,he wasn't he could hardly run IIRC?
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All this talk about Sanchez won't sign but I think it's probably the right time to sell anyway. He's run into the ground and won't get a proper rest now until the 2020 or something with the international tournaments so will be like a busted coach soon enough. I'm also starting to find him very frustrating to watch, he tries the same shit time and time again. If we do have to sell ten it has to be a club outside of England but Wenger will probably bend over for city again
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some truth in this,its no coincidence our poor run of form in last years run in came at the exact time Sanchez returned to the team,i think we are no worse without him than with,of course it would be nice to keep him but if he wants to go let himIW8Goalmachine wrote:All this talk about Sanchez won't sign but I think it's probably the right time to sell anyway. He's run into the ground and won't get a proper rest now until the 2020 or something with the international tournaments so will be like a busted coach soon enough. I'm also starting to find him very frustrating to watch, he tries the same shit time and time again. If we do have to sell ten it has to be a club outside of England but Wenger will probably bend over for city again
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Cant believe what im hearing - the casual sentient with regards to Sanchez, and the 'if he wants to leave let him' talk.
Ozil is supposedly nearing 200k a week, now Sanchez needs to be offered something similar.
Lets face it, Ozil and Sanchez are our best two players, and losing either, let alone both is a disaster.
Ozil is supposedly nearing 200k a week, now Sanchez needs to be offered something similar.
Lets face it, Ozil and Sanchez are our best two players, and losing either, let alone both is a disaster.
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Wilson wrote:Cant believe what im hearing - the casual sentient with regards to Sanchez, and the 'if he wants to leave let him' talk.
Ozil is supposedly nearing 200k a week, now Sanchez needs to be offered something similar.
Lets face it, Ozil and Sanchez are our best two players, and losing either, let alone both is a disaster.
I like sanchez cos he plays with a fire and passion that very few in our club do nowadays, and I would obviously prefer if he stayed, but at the same time if he left it wouldn't break my heart as much as some player departures have in recent years. Lets be rational here and acknowledge that so far his best goalscoring season with us has seen him bag 16 league goals - don't we rightly hammer giroud for not being a 20 league goals per season striker ? If we are to be really critical we will also admit that his link up play is nothing short of shocking for any top quality striker

Of course on the flip side of that we have to acknowledge that at the mo he is on course to break the 20 league goals per season mark, if he stays fit and continues scoring at his present rate. We also should say that he has spent most of his time stranded on the wing, in a team that largely plays slow tippy tappy football - now that he has moved centrally he does appear to be more of a threat, but at the same time he didn't score against the victims or Leicester, and never looked like scoring against the scum (in other words his goals have come against shit teams and a chav team that wasn't going well at that time)
Anyway in summation, I would rather keep him because of the attitude and winning passion he brings to the team, plus I always think that it looks better if a club can keep their star players, but at the same time he isn't an henry/wrighty/anelka quality striker and could probably be replaced by a proper manager with an ambitious club (which I know that we have neither)
Re: Ozil and Sanchez want £250k a week
augie wrote:Wilson wrote:Cant believe what im hearing - the casual sentient with regards to Sanchez, and the 'if he wants to leave let him' talk.
Ozil is supposedly nearing 200k a week, now Sanchez needs to be offered something similar.
Lets face it, Ozil and Sanchez are our best two players, and losing either, let alone both is a disaster.
I like sanchez cos he plays with a fire and passion that very few in our club do nowadays, and I would obviously prefer if he stayed, but at the same time if he left it wouldn't break my heart as much as some player departures have in recent years. Lets be rational here and acknowledge that so far his best goalscoring season with us has seen him bag 16 league goals - don't we rightly hammer giroud for not being a 20 league goals per season striker ? If we are to be really critical we will also admit that his link up play is nothing short of shocking for any top quality striker![]()
Of course on the flip side of that we have to acknowledge that at the mo he is on course to break the 20 league goals per season mark, if he stays fit and continues scoring at his present rate. We also should say that he has spent most of his time stranded on the wing, in a team that largely plays slow tippy tappy football - now that he has moved centrally he does appear to be more of a threat, but at the same time he didn't score against the victims or Leicester, and never looked like scoring against the scum (in other words his goals have come against shit teams and a chav team that wasn't going well at that time)
Anyway in summation, I would rather keep him because of the attitude and winning passion he brings to the team, plus I always think that it looks better if a club can keep their star players, but at the same time he isn't an henry/wrighty/anelka quality striker and could probably be replaced by a proper manager with an ambitious club (which I know that we have neither)
He hasnt scored 20 in all competitions because he previously played on the left wing.
Its not even a discussion - he must be kept at all costs and losing him would be an unmitigated disaster.
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I agree entirely both need to be kept whatever it takesWilson wrote:augie wrote:Wilson wrote:Cant believe what im hearing - the casual sentient with regards to Sanchez, and the 'if he wants to leave let him' talk.
Ozil is supposedly nearing 200k a week, now Sanchez needs to be offered something similar.
Lets face it, Ozil and Sanchez are our best two players, and losing either, let alone both is a disaster.
I like sanchez cos he plays with a fire and passion that very few in our club do nowadays, and I would obviously prefer if he stayed, but at the same time if he left it wouldn't break my heart as much as some player departures have in recent years. Lets be rational here and acknowledge that so far his best goalscoring season with us has seen him bag 16 league goals - don't we rightly hammer giroud for not being a 20 league goals per season striker ? If we are to be really critical we will also admit that his link up play is nothing short of shocking for any top quality striker![]()
Of course on the flip side of that we have to acknowledge that at the mo he is on course to break the 20 league goals per season mark, if he stays fit and continues scoring at his present rate. We also should say that he has spent most of his time stranded on the wing, in a team that largely plays slow tippy tappy football - now that he has moved centrally he does appear to be more of a threat, but at the same time he didn't score against the victims or Leicester, and never looked like scoring against the scum (in other words his goals have come against shit teams and a chav team that wasn't going well at that time)
Anyway in summation, I would rather keep him because of the attitude and winning passion he brings to the team, plus I always think that it looks better if a club can keep their star players, but at the same time he isn't an henry/wrighty/anelka quality striker and could probably be replaced by a proper manager with an ambitious club (which I know that we have neither)
He hasnt scored 20 in all competitions because he previously played on the left wing.
Its not even a discussion - he must be kept at all costs and losing him would be an unmitigated disaster.
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Yeah that boils my piss too.Topside Northbank wrote:Yep both can do one......how Fabregas is pictured on the outside of the stadiumOneBardGooner wrote:100% Correct on both counts..VanJudasCunt spent more time on the treatment table than on the pitch for Arsenal - But when manure came a calling he was off like a shot....loyalty means nothing...DB10GOONER wrote:Also, if any player had owed the club some loyalty it'd be VanJudasCunt - and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about that.northbank123 wrote:It's not right that you have to pay the rest of their contract if they don't hand in a request - ultimately the contracts are being terminated by mutual consent.
It is relevant to the loyalty bonus clause which seems to be a feature of modern contracts though. And neither Fabregas nor van Persie fancied throwing away a few million pounds so th just engineered a move away whilst the club stood back and let our captain(s) do it.
The van Persie situation was especially unpalatable, as whilst his frustrations were shared by many he came out and took a swipe at the club, manufactured a move to a rival and presumably was paid a few million quid in return for this loyalty. Didn't Fabregas agree to waive a five million quid bonus though to push his deal through?![]()
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I think Fabregas did waive a serious bonus to go, but didn't he also threaten to strike if he didn't get his move...?
Fabregas used his old ties with barcawhores as an excuse - yes, he waived the bonus he was due to receive, but only so that the 'negotiatins' would be sped up....who can forget his laughs & high 5's with all his barca bumchums whilst he was still an Arsenal player and that bit of carelessness - a back heel - that gave them the ball to put the nail in our coffin....
Both extremely good players both cun.ts.![]()


I find it offensive that a player currently visiting our stadium as part of a rival club is emblazoned on the stadium wall.



