OZIL - Merged Thread

[GoonerMuzz]

Whilst I have no doubt there are questions over the treatment of Uighers in China i wonder why Ozil fails to bring up the treatment of other religious minorities in some Muslim run countries around the world.

Much as we bemoan the loss of our clubs to foreign investment and fans we have a very large fan base in China and this could be potentially very damaging to the club financially, and as noted above can I assume that Ozil will stop accepting his £300,000 or so a week as part of his protest, the sooner we get rid of this knob the better.

Too many people fail to realise how intrinsically intertwined economically the West is with China these days and no matter how we feel about the practices of the nation and its rulers, openly criticising them is a very dangerous game.

[nut flush gooner]

Whilst I have no doubt there are questions over the treatment of Uighers in China i wonder why Ozil fails to bring up the treatment of other religious minorities in some Muslim run countries around the world.

Much as we bemoan the loss of our clubs to foreign investment and fans we have a very large fan base in China and this could be potentially very damaging to the club financially, and as noted above can I assume that Ozil will stop accepting his £300,000 or so a week as part of his protest, the sooner we get rid of this knob the better.

Too many people fail to realise how intrinsically intertwined economically the West is with China these days and no matter how we feel about the practices of the nation and its rulers, openly criticising them is a very dangerous game.

Not only that, Ozil has a relationship with the Prime Minister of Turkey who lets face isn't exactly squeaky clean when it comes to the treatment of the Kurds in Syria and Turkey.

[OneBardGooner]

Whilst I have no doubt there are questions over the treatment of Uighers in China i wonder why Ozil fails to bring up the treatment of other religious minorities in some Muslim run countries around the world.

Much as we bemoan the loss of our clubs to foreign investment and fans we have a very large fan base in China and this could be potentially very damaging to the club financially, and as noted above can I assume that Ozil will stop accepting his £300,000 or so a week as part of his protest, the sooner we get rid of this knob the better.

Too many people fail to realise how intrinsically intertwined economically the West is with China these days and no matter how we feel about the practices of the nation and its rulers, openly criticising them is a very dangerous game.

You mean like Women.


The thing is Ozil does have a valid point, China invaded Tibet because they knew they could and no fuckker was going to try and stop them. There is video and written / recorded evidence of what they have done and are still doing to the uighers population/people. Not just the those associated with (so called) terrorist based political agenda's, but they have taken a scorched earth policy to them killing, imprisoning and torturing anyone who is of that faith/belief system.


The FACTS of that invasion are on par with what the Nazi's did to ethnic minorities in World War 2. They tortured and killed "Millions" of everyday peace loving people, women were gang raped, pregnant women and their children aborted, the Buddhist Temples were destroyed and 'toilets' built on where they once stood.

And why did China do such things? Simply because they wanted to expand their domination of the land (a country on their border) and knew that none of the world powers would do Nothing, why? because it is all about trade balance, money and profit.


Ozil's comments are however in conflict with his friendship and association with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who was best man at his wedding, has ordered and overseen all kinds of violations against his own people, again this is Fact, not just allegations.
The laws regarding the safety and well being of certain peoples within his own country have been flouted in order to maintain a vice like grip on his power.

We all know that Opinion of Ozil amongst Gooners is divided to say the least, he may be earning £1Million+ a month...But he is still entitled to have an opinion and express that opinion, even though he has turned a blind eye to what is happening to many people in the country of his birth.

As Edmund Burke stated" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

[Nos89]

What's the HR department doing about this at the club? Surely, he's committed Gross Misconduct by making this statement.

Hypocrisy at its best. Club distance itself from a political statement about China whilst having Rwanda plastered all over their kit.

[augie]

Whilst I have no doubt there are questions over the treatment of Uighers in China i wonder why Ozil fails to bring up the treatment of other religious minorities in some Muslim run countries around the world.

Much as we bemoan the loss of our clubs to foreign investment and fans we have a very large fan base in China and this could be potentially very damaging to the club financially, and as noted above can I assume that Ozil will stop accepting his £300,000 or so a week as part of his protest, the sooner we get rid of this knob the better.

Too many people fail to realise how intrinsically intertwined economically the West is with China these days and no matter how we feel about the practices of the nation and its rulers, openly criticising them is a very dangerous game.

You mean like Women.


The thing is Ozil does have a valid point, China invaded Tibet because they knew they could and no fuckker was going to try and stop them. There is video and written / recorded evidence of what they have done and are still doing to the uighers population/people. Not just the those associated with (so called) terrorist based political agenda's, but they have taken a scorched earth policy to them killing, imprisoning and torturing anyone who is of that faith/belief system.


The FACTS of that invasion are on par with what the Nazi's did to ethnic minorities in World War 2. They tortured and killed "Millions" of everyday peace loving people, women were gang raped, pregnant women and their children aborted, the Buddhist Temples were destroyed and 'toilets' built on where they once stood.

And why did China do such things? Simply because they wanted to expand their domination of the land (a country on their border) and knew that none of the world powers would do Nothing, why? because it is all about trade balance, money and profit.


Ozil's comments are however in conflict with his friendship and association with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who was best man at his wedding, has ordered and overseen all kinds of violations against his own people, again this is Fact, not just allegations.
The laws regarding the safety and well being of certain peoples within his own country have been flouted in order to maintain a vice like grip on his power.

We all know that Opinion of Ozil amongst Gooners is divided to say the least, he may be earning £1Million+ a month...But he is still entitled to have an opinion and express that opinion, even though he has turned a blind eye to what is happening to many people in the country of his birth.

As Edmund Burke stated" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

Cannot agree with that at all - he is a professional footballer not a political or religious activist or protestor, and professional footballers should not be allowed interfere in area's away from football. I wonder if the club could use this as a means to terminate his contract - there can be no doubt that this will affect the AFC brand globally, which would surely be in conflict of our players contracts which insists that they do events to raise the popularity and profile of the club
Maybe I am clutching at straws here, but there should be some sort of repercussions for our players when they do shit like this, and the club distancing themselves from his comments is not enough

[SydneyGooner]

Not a good look for the club.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/there-no-room-racism

There is no room for racism*

*Except if it's state wide racism at a gigantic scale, and in conflict with our commercial interests. In that case, racism is ok.

[northbank123]

It's a bit of a tricky one because calling out this sort of behaviour is admirable in some ways. It's all a bit of an embarrassment for the club, who were happy for that hipster twat Bellerin to spout off about politics as long as it doesn't impact on a sponsor.

That said, it is painfully evident that the bloke has eminently less interest in his football career than being a mouthpiece for his Turkish / Muslim brothers. There are probably 60-80 Muslim players in the Premier League, but no surprise that it is this guy who considers it necessary to take to social media. Why bother grafting with charity work for a cause close to his heart like other passionate PL players when he can just lazily post shit on Instagram?

All this shit hanging out with Erdogan and hitting out at China is because he isn't interested in being an Arsenal player or a footballer any more.

[OneBardGooner]

Whilst I have no doubt there are questions over the treatment of Uighers in China i wonder why Ozil fails to bring up the treatment of other religious minorities in some Muslim run countries around the world.

Much as we bemoan the loss of our clubs to foreign investment and fans we have a very large fan base in China and this could be potentially very damaging to the club financially, and as noted above can I assume that Ozil will stop accepting his £300,000 or so a week as part of his protest, the sooner we get rid of this knob the better.

Too many people fail to realise how intrinsically intertwined economically the West is with China these days and no matter how we feel about the practices of the nation and its rulers, openly criticising them is a very dangerous game.

You mean like Women.


The thing is Ozil does have a valid point, China invaded Tibet because they knew they could and no fuckker was going to try and stop them. There is video and written / recorded evidence of what they have done and are still doing to the uighers population/people. Not just the those associated with (so called) terrorist based political agenda's, but they have taken a scorched earth policy to them killing, imprisoning and torturing anyone who is of that faith/belief system.


The FACTS of that invasion are on par with what the Nazi's did to ethnic minorities in World War 2. They tortured and killed "Millions" of everyday peace loving people, women were gang raped, pregnant women and their children aborted, the Buddhist Temples were destroyed and 'toilets' built on where they once stood.

And why did China do such things? Simply because they wanted to expand their domination of the land (a country on their border) and knew that none of the world powers would do Nothing, why? because it is all about trade balance, money and profit.


Ozil's comments are however in conflict with his friendship and association with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who was best man at his wedding, has ordered and overseen all kinds of violations against his own people, again this is Fact, not just allegations.
The laws regarding the safety and well being of certain peoples within his own country have been flouted in order to maintain a vice like grip on his power.

We all know that Opinion of Ozil amongst Gooners is divided to say the least, he may be earning £1Million+ a month...But he is still entitled to have an opinion and express that opinion, even though he has turned a blind eye to what is happening to many people in the country of his birth.

As Edmund Burke stated" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

Cannot agree with that at all - he is a professional footballer not a political or religious activist or protestor, and professional footballers should not be allowed interfere in area's away from football. I wonder if the club could use this as a means to terminate his contract - there can be no doubt that this will affect the AFC brand globally, which would surely be in conflict of our players contracts which insists that they do events to raise the popularity and profile of the club
Maybe I am clutching at straws here, but there should be some sort of repercussions for our players when they do shit like this, and the club distancing themselves from his comments is not enough

So whatever your 'profession' is, you should be default of your statement not be allowed to 'interfere' away from whatever it is you do for a living, which of course unless you are are a Professional Football Pundit or Commentator you shouldn't be allowed any opinions about football or anything to do with said subject.

That is what your statement is saying.

[OneBardGooner]

double click need a new mouse

[augie]

Whilst I have no doubt there are questions over the treatment of Uighers in China i wonder why Ozil fails to bring up the treatment of other religious minorities in some Muslim run countries around the world.

Much as we bemoan the loss of our clubs to foreign investment and fans we have a very large fan base in China and this could be potentially very damaging to the club financially, and as noted above can I assume that Ozil will stop accepting his £300,000 or so a week as part of his protest, the sooner we get rid of this knob the better.

Too many people fail to realise how intrinsically intertwined economically the West is with China these days and no matter how we feel about the practices of the nation and its rulers, openly criticising them is a very dangerous game.

You mean like Women.


The thing is Ozil does have a valid point, China invaded Tibet because they knew they could and no fuckker was going to try and stop them. There is video and written / recorded evidence of what they have done and are still doing to the uighers population/people. Not just the those associated with (so called) terrorist based political agenda's, but they have taken a scorched earth policy to them killing, imprisoning and torturing anyone who is of that faith/belief system.


The FACTS of that invasion are on par with what the Nazi's did to ethnic minorities in World War 2. They tortured and killed "Millions" of everyday peace loving people, women were gang raped, pregnant women and their children aborted, the Buddhist Temples were destroyed and 'toilets' built on where they once stood.

And why did China do such things? Simply because they wanted to expand their domination of the land (a country on their border) and knew that none of the world powers would do Nothing, why? because it is all about trade balance, money and profit.


Ozil's comments are however in conflict with his friendship and association with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who was best man at his wedding, has ordered and overseen all kinds of violations against his own people, again this is Fact, not just allegations.
The laws regarding the safety and well being of certain peoples within his own country have been flouted in order to maintain a vice like grip on his power.

We all know that Opinion of Ozil amongst Gooners is divided to say the least, he may be earning £1Million+ a month...But he is still entitled to have an opinion and express that opinion, even though he has turned a blind eye to what is happening to many people in the country of his birth.

As Edmund Burke stated" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

Cannot agree with that at all - he is a professional footballer not a political or religious activist or protestor, and professional footballers should not be allowed interfere in area's away from football. I wonder if the club could use this as a means to terminate his contract - there can be no doubt that this will affect the AFC brand globally, which would surely be in conflict of our players contracts which insists that they do events to raise the popularity and profile of the club
Maybe I am clutching at straws here, but there should be some sort of repercussions for our players when they do shit like this, and the club distancing themselves from his comments is not enough

So whatever your 'profession' is, you should be default of your statement not be allowed to 'interfere' away from whatever it is you do for a living, which of course unless you are are a Professional Football Pundit or Commentator you shouldn't be allowed any opinions about football or anything to do with said subject.

That is what your statement is saying.

What I am saying is that he is a footballer with AFC who is being paid 350k per week, and part of his job is to boost the AFC brand and not do anything that drags the club into trouble. I don't think that anyone can dispute that fact, and there can be no doubt that his comments/rant will absolutely have a negative effect on the image of the club in that part of the world, and it is that commercial income which contributes significantly to his and every other players wages
Let me say straight up that, whilst a commercially driven agenda by the club totally fcuks me off, I do still recognise how important merchandise etc is to the revenue coffers. As others have said, if ozil was at least consistant and berated the turkish pm for human rights violations, then he might not come out of this with some respect, but the reality is that he is another selfish cuntbag player whose personal agenda is all that matters to him, so if the club finances are hit by this, then it should land squarely on his doorstep

[The Arsenal Way]

I'm done with Ozil now.
Get him out. Pay him off or cancel his contract but just get him gone.
He's a disgrace to the club.
Not just because of social media stuff, but also his petulance today.
I used to forgive his no shows, but now even I am pissed off at him

[DB10GOONER]

Sorry lads but 3 Ozil threads all basically saying the same thing is a no go. Gonna merge them all.

[augie]

A comment (and part of a bigger statement) from china's state broadcaster yesterday -

"Ozil's move has ruined his image among Chinese fans and will have serious implications for Arsenal."

Enough reason to sack the c.unt ?

[SydneyGooner]

A comment (and part of a bigger statement) from china's state broadcaster yesterday -

"Ozil's move has ruined his image among Chinese fans and will have serious implications for Arsenal."

Enough reason to sack the c.unt ?

Him being a semi-retired footballer on mammoth wages is why we should get rid of him. Could care less if he's pissed off the insecure Chinese.

[NickF]

professional footballers should not be allowed interfere in area's away from football.

I really hope you are joking, but sadly I don't think you are...

They have as much right as anyone to speak up on things they feel strongly about.