THE WENGER THREAD

[falkirk goon]

Arsene Wenger says Arsenal can still win title ahead of Manchester City game

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... -city-game

The doctors have let him out again... what a loony

In his deluded mind we still can..its the top4 title though..the sneaky fucker

[clockender1]

Why the fuck is Paul Scholes relevant all of a sudden?

Wouldn't have been such a fuss if it wasn't for Wenger's utterly arrogant and disrespectful response.

This.

Why can't Wenger just say that he's entitled to his opinion.

I hope scholes calls him out and asks him how many European titles he's won

[augie]

I love going to Arsenal games and seeing parents bring their kids to the games and keep up their family traditions. When we had our 2 boys I swore that they were gonna be brought up as fully fledged Gooners - many people around here slated me claiming that the kids should be let make up their own minds but I stood firm cos for me it is just a natural progression and should be as natural as breathing air When my youngest wanted to support citeeh a couple of years ago I told him that he could but that I would no longer bring him over to games and myself and his brother would go to the Arsenal games on our own - blackmail ? Of course it was but I didnt give a fcuk because for me he was gonna follow in my footsteps and hopefully his kids in years to come would follow in his and so on and so on

If wenker is allowed sign a new contract at my club then those rules are gone out the window for me - not alone will I allow my boys to support a different club but I will actually encourage it. That may well be seen as treachery by many but what kind of parent would allow their kids commit themselves to a life of despair following a club who are no longer committed to winning trophies and whose priority is financial gain ? I will have had it with this two bob small time shithole club and wankers that are running it and while it will be too late for me to change allegiances, it isnt too late for my kids

I really hope he fcuks off this summer cos I really cannot take another minute, day or week with this pr*ck in charge of my club

I see your point augie. But to me it's bollocks. You earn the good times through the pain and misery of the bad times. My kids are Gooners. And Gooners they stay, unless they fancy being homeless at 8 and 9 years old. They can come home at any stage in their life and tell me they are gay, or they have murdered someone, or they are having a sex change op, and I will still love them as my kids. But if thay walk in that door and tell me they are now Manure or Scum fans then they are fucking getting shot.

(and no, PC arseholes, I'm not equating being gay with being a criminal. And yes, I do realise that entire sentence describes all of SPUDMASHER's current traits)

DB10 you can say it is bollocks but to me it is totally justified - for me it doesn't come down to the winning or losing of a game/league or cup but is something far more basic than that......it is down to the ambition to win and we simply do not have that as a club anymore

Unlike most of you I don't have a hang up on losing in paris in 2006 - when I came out of the stadium that night I was of course disappointed, but I still felt total respect and admiration with everyone associated with the club for the massive effort that night. Maybe now, because we have fallen so far from that position, the defeat hurts more but all you can do is your best and I felt that by and large our players gave their all that night (average al was of course shit and henry bottled his chances of course).

My kids are now 9 and 11 and obviously they are playing football themselves - I have tried to instill into them, that the minimum requirement from them is that they give absolutely everything they have every single time they put on their boots. It is very hard to preach that to your kids and still show our club, the club we have grown up supporting, do less than their best to achieve success. We all have a major dislike towards bendtner for his attitude to his wages and his motivation in the game, but tell me how wenger and our club are any different ? Wenker (and the board) want us, actually change that to expect us, to continue paying top dollar towards their wages, to accept 4th place as successful and then to be happy and silent with our lot - that is not what I signed up for. I have said it a million times on here that failing to win a trophy for x number of years I can accept cos there are only a small number of trophies available - what I will not accept however, is a lack of ambition and commitment to try and achieve that success and that is where we are now and by the looks of things it will be where we are for many years to come (unless either kroenke or wenker pops their clogs and personally I would be totally ok with occurring)

Right now I don't feel a connection to Arsenal Football Club - this isn't the same club that I grew up with and I don't like what it has become Maybe this is just a phase that I am going through (and it would disappear if wenker fcuked off) but I have never ever felt as sad and upset as a Gooner as I do now

[rodders999]

Only for 12:45pm kicks offs we'd be bigger than Barca and Bayern combined

[rodders999]

On the Liverpool and Chelsea maulings -

"The only common thing I see is that maybe we were a bit too cautious or a bit on the back foot"

Cautious????? On the back foot??? Combined we lost those two games 11-1, thank Christ we weren't on the front foot or it would have been a cricket score

[Offside]

On the Liverpool and Chelsea maulings -

"The only common thing I see is that maybe we were a bit too cautious or a bit on the back foot"

Cautious????? On the back foot??? Combined we lost those two games 11-1, thank Christ we weren't on the front foot or it would have been a cricket score

Worse still, he actually believes all the crap he says.

[EC3]

Arsenal FC ‏@Arsenal 59s
Boss: "People who have managed zero games have opinions and we have to accept that"


Wenger never played football at a top or international level, so by the same token what is he doing managing a team of internationals.

When he is on the defensive he spouts nonsense

[OneBardGooner]

The *word censored* spouts nonsense full stop.

[clockender1]

On the Liverpool and Chelsea maulings -

"The only common thing I see is that maybe we were a bit too cautious or a bit on the back foot"

so being two down in a few minutes - both by breakaway goals in both matches, is not a common thing ?

[kiwomya]

Why the fuck is Paul Scholes relevant all of a sudden?

Wouldn't have been such a fuss if it wasn't for Wenger's utterly arrogant and disrespectful response. From what I saw Scholes wasn't launching a personal attack on Wenger and he wasn't second guessing or dissecting Wenger's management. He gave his opinion that we are miles away from winning the league.

It's one thing belittling the average fan's opinion but it's unbelievably disrespectful and bollocks to suggest a bloke who has won 11 PL titles has no idea of a team's title credentials. Given that Scholes won 8 more titles than Wenger has I'm inclined to think he has a good idea about what it takes to win the league, more than Wenger does.

In Wenger's mind the only people who can criticise him are fellow experienced managers - and if they comment on his record it's disrespectful. I honestly think this is every bit as disrespectful as the 'specialist in failure' comments and not provoked like in that case. I hate Scholes and I imagine he makes a terrible pundit as he's notorious for shying away from the camera but Wenger's comment reflects extremely badly on the club.

I understand what you're saying but I don't think it takes Paul Scholes to point out the clear deficiencies at the club. What I don't understand is why Arsenal fans are apparently happy to see (and defend) the words of a bitter United player. Are we going to stop and listen to Teddy Sheringham because he won the league as many times as Wenger?

[northbank123]

4 down in 20 mins at Anfield and 3 down in 17 mins at Chelsea. How worrying is it that the one theme he's highlighted is caution?

[kiwomya]

From what i've read, Arsenal should have probably cancelled this press conference too. Any talk of us "responding" has a high chance of looking stupid when the final whistle blwos on Saturday.

[Theoperator]

From what i've read, Arsenal should have probably cancelled this press conference too. Any talk of us "responding" has a high chance of looking stupid when the final whistle blwos on Saturday.

AFC should cancel all press conferences until our manager departs, its totally embarassing now, same old same old, .

[clockender1]

I understand what you're saying but I don't think it takes Paul Scholes to point out the clear deficiencies at the club. What I don't understand is why Arsenal fans are apparently happy to see (and defend) the words of a bitter United player. Are we going to stop and listen to Teddy Sheringham because he won the league as many times as Wenger?

i'm not happy to see it - if anything it makes the frustration worse - that others, many others even thickie football players can see the terrible job that wenger is doing, but the man and the board can't.

if you read the whole piece Scholes actually says its us he feels sorry for - we get promised the earth every summer then fail badly when we meet the big clubs.

its also partly the piss poor football media in this country - no-one has the balls to ask wenger or call him out on his BS - like for example a very simple question " Arsene, one win against the top 4 in 14 games. why ?"

[foxinthebox2001]

Cant find a digital version of this article from todays Sun, but it looks like heavy spin from a pro Wenger source, intended to soften us supporters up before the new contract is made public.
Fools no one, we will hang on to fourth spot by winning our last 6 (easier) matches.
Then Wenger will endorse his faith in this group of players and when the injured players are back expects to be challenging for the title next season.