Wenger to spend more than £100 million on six top players? I refused to believe it unless this article is published on 1st Aprilfoxinthebox2001 wrote:Cant find a digital version of this article from todays Sun, but it looks like heavy spin from a pro Wenger source, intended to soften us supporters up before the new contract is made public.
Fools no one, we will hang on to fourth spot by winning our last 6 (easier) matches.
Then Wenger will endorse his faith in this group of players and when the injured players are back expects to be challenging for the title next season.
THE WENGER THREAD
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defleppardisking
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clockender1
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six for 15million each ? - six gervinho's then...
why can't we have 3 at 30/40m and buy real proven quality ?
why can't we have 3 at 30/40m and buy real proven quality ?
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defleppardisking
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Because it will kill some of his babiesclockender1 wrote:six for 15million each ? - six gervinho's then...
why can't we have 3 at 30/40m and buy real proven quality ?
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VAVAVOOM 14
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Just to gather a general consensus, how would you lot feel if Wenger was succeeded by Bould as manager?
Would you be willing to give him the reins?
Would you be willing to give him the reins?
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foxinthebox2001
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The very same journalist who wrote that piece today published another article last July.
No good linking it because of the Sun pay wall, but this is what he wrote.
MY VIEW
By MARK IRWIN
Football correspondent
WHEN I woke up in my Japanese hotel this morning there were three text messages from Arsenal fans on my phone.
Two were asking for news of any possible signings, the other was already calling for the heads of Arsene Wenger and Ivan Gazidis.
And so it begins. The annual Emirates tap-dance. In which the club promises the earth then delivers Andre Santos and Maraoune Chamakh.
We have been here so many times before that even the most optimistic Gunners fans have stopped allowing their hopes to be raised.
Except this time it feels somehow different. A line has been crossed and Wenger will no longer be allowed to backtrack.
He has promised stellar signings this summer and he has to deliver them. If he breaks his word again, no-one will trust Arsene.
Travelling with the club these past two weeks on their pre-season tour of the Far East, it is evident that it is not just the supporters demanding proper, big-name buys.
Everyone within the club is also convinced that Wenger is about to break the habits of a lifetime and spend some money as though it is not coming out of his own pocket.
Even the players are asking what we have heard. They are every bit as eager for an injection of new blood.
All these expectations have been raised by an interview which chief executive Gazidis gave last month, when he spoke of the club’s new ‘financial firepower’ and their ability to compete for the very best players in the world.
Many believe his words were deliberately chosen to apply some pressure to the cautious Wenger.
It is why Arsenal have been heavily linked with the likes of Luis Suarez, Wayne Rooney and Gonzalo Higuain in recent weeks.
But there is only so many times that we can write ‘Arsenal are set to make a new bid for Suarez’ before a sceptical public switch off.
For if Arsenal were serious about buying the Liverpool striker, they would have gone straight in with an offer which Brendan Rodgers could not refuse rather than submitting a bid which they knew was certain to be rejected.
Now it appears Wenger is relying on Suarez throwing his toys out of the pram and forcing his way through the Anfield exit. Though whether he could be any more objectionable is open to debate.
Wenger is certainly not giving anything away right now. He refuses to discuss any potential targets and seemed to take great delight in knocking down reports that he was about to sign Brazilian midfielder Bernard the other day.
Gazidis, too, has gone strangely quiet in recent days. We keep hearing rumours that he is flying back to London to seal this or that deal, but he is still out here in Japan and feels he has already said more than enough.
It is a good job for him that Manchester United have also failed to land any of their big-time targets so far this summer while Chelsea have yet to prise Rooney from Old Trafford.
And maybe Arsenal will yet surprise us all by unveiling a new superstar in the next few days.
But I wouldn’t hold your breath if I were you.
A week on Saturday, Arsenal face Napoli in the Emirates Cup. If Yaya Sonogo is the only new face on show for the Gunners, expect fireworks.
Wenger is already into the final year of his £7.5million-a-year contract and has stretched the supporters’ loyalty to its limit.
A storm is brewing and Wenger had better get his brolly out.
He basically goes against this whole viewpoint today.
No good linking it because of the Sun pay wall, but this is what he wrote.
MY VIEW
By MARK IRWIN
Football correspondent
WHEN I woke up in my Japanese hotel this morning there were three text messages from Arsenal fans on my phone.
Two were asking for news of any possible signings, the other was already calling for the heads of Arsene Wenger and Ivan Gazidis.
And so it begins. The annual Emirates tap-dance. In which the club promises the earth then delivers Andre Santos and Maraoune Chamakh.
We have been here so many times before that even the most optimistic Gunners fans have stopped allowing their hopes to be raised.
Except this time it feels somehow different. A line has been crossed and Wenger will no longer be allowed to backtrack.
He has promised stellar signings this summer and he has to deliver them. If he breaks his word again, no-one will trust Arsene.
Travelling with the club these past two weeks on their pre-season tour of the Far East, it is evident that it is not just the supporters demanding proper, big-name buys.
Everyone within the club is also convinced that Wenger is about to break the habits of a lifetime and spend some money as though it is not coming out of his own pocket.
Even the players are asking what we have heard. They are every bit as eager for an injection of new blood.
All these expectations have been raised by an interview which chief executive Gazidis gave last month, when he spoke of the club’s new ‘financial firepower’ and their ability to compete for the very best players in the world.
Many believe his words were deliberately chosen to apply some pressure to the cautious Wenger.
It is why Arsenal have been heavily linked with the likes of Luis Suarez, Wayne Rooney and Gonzalo Higuain in recent weeks.
But there is only so many times that we can write ‘Arsenal are set to make a new bid for Suarez’ before a sceptical public switch off.
For if Arsenal were serious about buying the Liverpool striker, they would have gone straight in with an offer which Brendan Rodgers could not refuse rather than submitting a bid which they knew was certain to be rejected.
Now it appears Wenger is relying on Suarez throwing his toys out of the pram and forcing his way through the Anfield exit. Though whether he could be any more objectionable is open to debate.
Wenger is certainly not giving anything away right now. He refuses to discuss any potential targets and seemed to take great delight in knocking down reports that he was about to sign Brazilian midfielder Bernard the other day.
Gazidis, too, has gone strangely quiet in recent days. We keep hearing rumours that he is flying back to London to seal this or that deal, but he is still out here in Japan and feels he has already said more than enough.
It is a good job for him that Manchester United have also failed to land any of their big-time targets so far this summer while Chelsea have yet to prise Rooney from Old Trafford.
And maybe Arsenal will yet surprise us all by unveiling a new superstar in the next few days.
But I wouldn’t hold your breath if I were you.
A week on Saturday, Arsenal face Napoli in the Emirates Cup. If Yaya Sonogo is the only new face on show for the Gunners, expect fireworks.
Wenger is already into the final year of his £7.5million-a-year contract and has stretched the supporters’ loyalty to its limit.
A storm is brewing and Wenger had better get his brolly out.
He basically goes against this whole viewpoint today.
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id be happy cos Wenker was gone,bouldy short term tho not long termVAVAVOOM 14 wrote:Just to gather a general consensus, how would you lot feel if Wenger was succeeded by Bould as manager?
Would you be willing to give him the reins?
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falkirk goon
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I still havent watched le bumholes latest jobby filled rantings 
can anyone remember the press conference ballotelli gatecrashed a few years back ? it would be good if he would gatecrash one of wengers 
maybe with some tape to wrap round his coupon.
can anyone remember the press conference ballotelli gatecrashed a few years back ? it would be good if he would gatecrash one of wengers maybe with some tape to wrap round his coupon.-
northbank123
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Personally no. Not really a current regime thing, just wouldn't take a punt on Bould at this level (although I'd be wary about promoting an old head from within).
I think if you're going to have a punt on a manager completely unproven at this level it's hard to overlook Martinez.
I think if you're going to have a punt on a manager completely unproven at this level it's hard to overlook Martinez.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ly-3296771Arsene Wenger last night claimed Arsenal have only “really been beaten” once this season.
Wenger said: “The only game for me where we were really beaten was at Liverpool. The rest is a bit more coincidence going negatively together.
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VAVAVOOM 14
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^ That's made me want to destroy something - never have I seen such prattle spouted. That's denial in the extreme and borderline lunacy.
Going by his logic, Wenger probably thinks we've only "really been beaten" 10 times during his whole tenure here.
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officepest
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Yeah I've read this interview in The Gorbachev. The bloke is beyond parody now and just seems more deluded with every turd that slips from his mouth.Dan_85 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ly-3296771Arsene Wenger last night claimed Arsenal have only “really been beaten” once this season.
Wenger said: “The only game for me where we were really beaten was at Liverpool. The rest is a bit more coincidence going negatively together.
He (Wenger) also suggests that he'll probably stay too. So, unless we spectacularly collapse, we've 3 more years of "accidents" and "special circumstances" to look forward to.
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TurnipMasher
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It would be laughable if it wasn't so frigging tragic. Gives an interesting insight to his mindset that as soon as he has an excuse (eg a red card, penalty decision etc) then the result doesn't matter as we have the 'moral victory', despite the 6-0 brownholing that follows.Dan_85 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ly-3296771Arsene Wenger last night claimed Arsenal have only “really been beaten” once this season.
Wenger said: “The only game for me where we were really beaten was at Liverpool. The rest is a bit more coincidence going negatively together.
I've said this time and again but surely even his most ardent disciples can't defend this shit, can they?
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officepest
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Yes, yes they can. I think it's some kind of collective mania.TurnipMasher wrote:It would be laughable if it wasn't so frigging tragic. Gives an interesting insight to his mindset that as soon as he has an excuse (eg a red card, penalty decision etc) then the result doesn't matter as we have the 'moral victory', despite the 6-0 brownholing that follows.Dan_85 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ly-3296771Arsene Wenger last night claimed Arsenal have only “really been beaten” once this season.
Wenger said: “The only game for me where we were really beaten was at Liverpool. The rest is a bit more coincidence going negatively together.
I've said this time and again but surely even his most ardent disciples can't defend this shit, can they?
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mcdowell42
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Ive said it before and ill say it again he really should stop talking,6-3 5-1 and 6-0 to me are real beatens,but wht would i know ive never managed a soccerball team. 
