THE WENGER THREAD

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DB10GOONER wrote:
augie wrote:I put a bet on with my good wife a few years ago that we would win a league again before the victims do.......am beginning to seriously worry now. It's not the money you know, but I don't ever want her to think that she was/ie right :lol:
Imagine your wife knowing more about football than you do? :oops: :shock: What's that like, augie? :rubchin:

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Oh! come off it Everyone knows more about football than Augie - Even Wenger! :D :wink:

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augie wrote:I put a bet on with my good wife a few years ago that we would win a league again before the victims do.......am beginning to seriously worry now. It's not the money you know, but I don't ever want her to think that she was/ie right :lol:
Augie let her be right once in a while, it works wonders..ask her about real football issues like "illusionary domination " or "accidental defeats "...see how she likes that ?

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In a typical April week where the big clubs in Europe are playing in the interesting knock out phase of the CL and we are sweating on 4th ahead of moneybags Everton, it just makes me want to scream from the rooftops....


ONE ARSENE WENGER.......THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

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http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/st ... MP=OTC-RSS
Wenger backing youth despite £100m transfer fund
I also want to develop a spirit inside the club that makes the young players be faithful to this club.
Are you surprised? £100m transfer fund? Didn't he say he'd hand that straight back?

Maybe you'd be better off applying for a job running the academy Arsene if you're so concerned with youth development? Then bring in someone who's concerned with building the strongest first team squad possible with our resources. But then I guess the youth academy role doesn't pay you £8m a year....

It makes me laugh when people trot out the "we don't want Arsene to leave, we just want him to adapt his philosophy" line. Absolute bollocks. Can you not see that the man is incapable of change? It's like saying the zebra just has to adjust his philosophy a little to stop being repeatedly eaten by the lions.

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Dan_85 wrote:http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/st ... MP=OTC-RSS
Wenger backing youth despite £100m transfer fund
I also want to develop a spirit inside the club that makes the young players be faithful to this club.
Are you surprised? £100m transfer fund? Didn't he say he'd hand that straight back?

Maybe you'd be better off applying for a job running the academy Arsene if you're so concerned with youth development? Then bring in someone who's concerned with building the strongest first team squad possible with our resources. But then I guess the youth academy role doesn't pay you £8m a year....

It makes me laugh when people trot out the "we don't want Arsene to leave, we just want him to adapt his philosophy" line. Absolute bollocks. Can you not see that the man is incapable of change? It's like saying the zebra just has to adjust his philosophy a little to stop being repeatedly eaten by the lions.
He's just a time machine away from being a great manager. If he could be transported back to the late 90s when mistrust of Johnny Foreigner was widespread and before the nasty Russians & Arabs with their 'financial doping' came along he'd be fine

Sadly the man is living by principles that were outdated 10 years ago

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" I also want to develop a spirit inside the club that makes the young players be faithful to this club"

That's easily done, win trophies and pay top dollar, you then get the loyalty. Any other way is pure fantasy.

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Wenger has effectively bought loyalty from so many players by over-valuing them and giving them far more playing time than they've earned.

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Why doesn't Arsene just coach the youth team?

Why are we endlessly chasing kids when there is quality in the market now, for a price.

This was his plan all along, when they said we'd have restricted finances he knew he would be able to carry out project youth.

Now it's set to continue? There is no hope for us. Incredible arrogance to think, he can redefine what Arsenal FC represents.

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northbank123 wrote:Wenger has effectively bought loyalty from so many players by over-valuing them and giving them far more playing time than they've earned.
And the good ones disappear to win trophies elsewhere after giving up on Wenger. Meanwhile we find it hard to shift the dross. Djourou and Bendtner are two of our longest-serving players! His youth project is just pure vanity and it works out as a good finishing school before the young stars leave to win their medals. Wenger has not won a single thing with a team that he has "grown" and developed through young players.

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Offside wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Wenger has effectively bought loyalty from so many players by over-valuing them and giving them far more playing time than they've earned.
And the good ones disappear to win trophies elsewhere after giving up on Wenger. Meanwhile we find it hard to shift the dross. Djourou and Bendtner are two of our longest-serving players! His youth project is just pure vanity and it works out as a good finishing school before the young stars leave to win their medals. Wenger has not won a single thing with a team that he has "grown" and developed through young players.
All jokes aside Djourou joined the club as a professional in 2003 and made his first-team debut over 9 and a half years ago. He's due a testimonial.

And we've got the pleasure of paying most of his wages for another season after this one. Thank God Wenger had the foresight to offer our distant 4th-choice central defender a lucrative 3 and a half year deal in the middle of that utter farce of a season. Would hate for him not to feel so financially rewarded for offering nothing to the club that he will run down his contract on loan. At least Wenger had learned from the mistakes of Bendtner, Almunia and Denilson which had all become painfully obvious by that point.

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The fact that our longest serving player is an overpaid waster like Djourou, rather than a club legend, tells us everything you need to know about Wenger's vanity and his failed 'project'.

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I reckon the club won't announce anything because Wonga may well have put a caveat on his signing. If he finishes outside the top 4 I think he will walk away. Next year will be incredibly tough to get in the top 4, and if he fails this year his ego will be damaged big time, especially after being top for so long. It's not all doom and gloom yet, he could still go!! :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Offside wrote:The fact that our longest serving player is an overpaid waster like Djourou, rather than a club legend, tells us everything you need to know about Wenger's vanity and his failed 'project'.
This ^^. 8)

Of all the Wenger criticism on here over the years that one sentence above is probably the most concise I've read. Very very sad, but very very true. :|

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Arsenal players want Arsene Wenger as their manager for years to come, says defender Thomas Vermaelen, 28.

Full story: Daily Mirror

No surprise there then get paid shed loads of wonga even when you're shyte and not trying....who wouldn't like a manager in theri work place who paids them well over the odds and lets them dawdle around not doing their job properly.!?

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ONE ARSENE WENGER.....THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

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