World Cup 2014 Squads and Games

[OneBardGooner]

The other thing that Van Gaals way of managing has brought up, is that it looks like he might turn out to be even more of a despicable cunnt than red nose.......an observation often made of the dutch as a culture - besides being a tad "odd" is their arrogance, I know that in the past as a cultural thing we brits have dumbed down our talents and abilities...blushing at the thought of being put in the spotlight for something we do and /or enjoy - unlike the shy retiring yanks - who think they own the world and have to boast about everything - accept their failures of course...

TANGENT!!!

Now then where was I - jeeessuss this tequila induced hangover is killing me - got the feckin' Tijuana shakes as well - anyway...I can see van gaal not only being more arrogant than rednosecrunt, but telling his players to do "anything" to win...his instructions to krul went beyond sportsmanship - it was Wrong and the ref should have stepped in - but as well know 99% of the refs have bottled it during the WC competition - having been given strict instructions by fifa(aka; corrupt nazi barstewards) - not to do anything that might rock the boat, or cause controversy etc.

I hope wenger has got his game face on when we play the mancscum this season he's gonna need it.

[northbank123]

Saving a sub for a GK is also sheer attention-seeking arrogance imo. Obviously you have to be careful with making subs with extra time but the Dutch were knocking at the door most of the game, but bringing on fresh legs in the final third in the last 10 minutes could really have made the difference against those defenders who were out on their feet.

All the Dutch had was either Robben running and diving/getting fouled or trying to clip it in to van Judas, all fucking game, no change. Watching that dour crap against a team of Costa Rica's calibre for 120 minutes, I'm not really sure how van Gaal is being hailed as a tactical genius.

I already hate the twat.

[Bradywasking]

Took forever to put on second striker despite dominating for most of what preceeded, failed to recognise that a fresh outfield player in the final half of extra time would win it for them..tactical genius my bollix...lucky, arrogant

Sligo Rovers won the FAI Cup a few years back on penalties and their keeper was the hero, a year later they were back in the final with the previous year's keeper now on the bench. 119 minutes in the manager gambled and brought on the keeper as a sub and again he was the hero in a shootout. That manager's name is Paul Cook who I think was subsequently sacked by Sligo Rovers. Knowing which of your keepers is better on penalties is not genius, ts knowledge..or else Paul Cook should be manager of Man Utd.

[arseofacrow]

In his (dreadful) BBC Sport column Rio Ferdinand seemed extremely proud that the senior players made it as hard as possible for young players to come through at United, particularly in Scholes "kicking the living daylights" out of Paul Pogba on the training pitch every day.

As much as I despair at the seemingly sheltered environment around our players letting Scholes literally kick his way back into the side probably wasn't a wise long-term approach to solving their CM problem.

I read that as him kicking Pogba as a way of toughening him up, apparently he was supposed to say nothing about it so he could earn the "respect" of Jar-Jar Binks and his mates.

In a nutshell it shows everything that is wrong with English football. What is even worse is that he has phrased that in a way that suggests it's completely normal and we should be impressed, good old Scholesy eh? You see this shit up and down the country every week in Sunday league, it's the level of football intellect of my barber writ large. According to him all we needed to win the World Cup was more midfield cloggers to "leave their studs in." Not a single other major footballing nation approaches the game this way or if they do it doesn't become the be-all. Fuck off to the UFC. And as I have to explain to nearly every middle aged man I meet, I literally could not give less of a fuck about how football was in the 70s.

It also confirms what those of us with eyes knew about Paul Scholes from day 1 - he is a massive, massive *word censored*.

Lots of good players and teams came out of the 70's mate.

Sure Ferdinand's a but he's just reflecting what went on at a club that won the lot - again and again. Must be something rght about that.

Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying the culture of kicking people up in the air is a hangover of the 70s that we've been very slow to let go of in this country whether it's in the Premier League which for decades has operated a different refereeing approach to the rest of the world (with the exception of this World Cup for some reason) or to the grass roots and kids football where the guys who can kick it furthest and intimidate the opposition rule the roost. Every time I put this argument to people of a certain age all I ever hear is "watch the 1970 cup final, proper men blah blah". Football nowadays is a technical and tactical game and we've been left behind.

I understand all that mate, did when you originally posted. And I agree to a large extent.

But I think you should give a shit about football in the 70's and not dismiss the views of those geriatrics for whom you have such disdain - we could appreciate the good things and learn from it to correct the bad things.

You did sound a bit like Tim Loeoy who said he "didn't give a shit about anything outside of the premier league". And that's not a comparison you really want.

[Top Londoner]

WENGER OUT

FFS



WENGER OUT

[LDB]

In his (dreadful) BBC Sport column Rio Ferdinand seemed extremely proud that the senior players made it as hard as possible for young players to come through at United, particularly in Scholes "kicking the living daylights" out of Paul Pogba on the training pitch every day.

As much as I despair at the seemingly sheltered environment around our players letting Scholes literally kick his way back into the side probably wasn't a wise long-term approach to solving their CM problem.

I read that as him kicking Pogba as a way of toughening him up, apparently he was supposed to say nothing about it so he could earn the "respect" of Jar-Jar Binks and his mates.

In a nutshell it shows everything that is wrong with English football. What is even worse is that he has phrased that in a way that suggests it's completely normal and we should be impressed, good old Sciholesy eh? You see this shit up and down the country every week in Sunday league, it's the level of football intellect of my barber writ large. According to him all we needed to win the World Cup was more midfield cloggers to "leave their studs in." Not a single other major footballing nation approaches the game this way or if they do it doesn't become the be-all. Fuck off to the UFC. And as I have to explain to nearly every middle aged man I meet, I literally could not give less of a fuck about how football was in the 70s.

It also confirms what those of us with eyes knew about Paul Scholes from day 1 - he is a massive, massive *word censored*.

Lots of good players and teams came out of the 70's mate.

Sure Ferdinand's a but he's just reflecting what went on at a club that won the lot - again and again. Must be something rght about that.

Not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying the culture of kicking people up in the air is a hangover of the 70s that we've been very slow to let go of in this country whether it's in the Premier League which for decades has operated a different refereeing approach to the rest of the world (with the exception of this World Cup for some reason) or to the grass roots and kids football where the guys who can kick it furthest and intimidate the opposition rule the roost. Every time I put this argument to people of a certain age all I ever hear is "watch the 1970 cup final, proper men blah blah". Football nowadays is a technical and tactical game and we've been left behind.

I understand all that mate, did when you originally posted. And I agree to a large extent.

But I think you should give a shit about football in the 70's and not dismiss the views of those geriatrics for whom you have such disdain - we could appreciate the good things and learn from it to correct the bad things.

You did sound a bit like Tim Loeoy who said he "didn't give a shit about anything outside of the premier league". And that's not a comparison you really want.

I don't have disdain for anyone, I probably should have put some smiley faces after it huh? I give many shits about football history, just some aspects more than others. The Rio thing wound me up so I might have got a bit carried away

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

I put $100 on Argentina b4 the tournament so I'm still rooting for them. I really dislike Brazil and Netherlands, and Germany are just fucking boring. I can't stand some of the Argies like Mascherano/Di Maria but I respect Messi for his talent and the fact that he doesnt flop and dive like the rest of his Barca teammates so I'm rooting for him to pull through.

[1989]

Want the Krauts to win it for our German boys. BFG will be our next captain and to have a WC winner as our captain is great, and it would give Özil a massive boost as well.

[augie]

If fifa overturn the silva booking (they have appealed it to fifa ) then that will finish me with the world cup for all time

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

LDB, mate I'm not sure what you are implying about kicking people in the air is something that came from the 70's

My first thought about someone kicking people in the air comes from a player who represented both Arsenal and England in the 30's, his name was Wilf Copping, also known as "Hard Man Copping", (his daughter was my primary school teacher and she let me try on his Arsenal and England shirt, I also played footie with his Grandson).

Below is a piece from a webpage about him.

On 14 November 1934 Wilf played in the Battle of Highbury – the England/Italy match which contained seven Arsenal players. The Italians were world champions, and England (who didn’t enter the world cup) thought that they, England, ought to be. Various players, including Stanley Matthews said that this was the roughest game they had ever played in – and generally blame is laid at the door of the Italians.

But England had its own weapon that day: Wilf Copping. It is suggested that the concept of the fearsome shoulder charge did not exist at that time in Italy, but did in England, and Wilf was the ultimate exponent. He was also an expert at the now illegal two footed tackle. The Italian captain was tackled by Wilf and had to retire with a splintered bone in his foot.

- See more at: http://www.blog.woolwicharsenal.co.uk/a ... D55sL.dpuf

So maybe the blame for us being kickers should go back to an England team that contained 7 Arsenal players who played in the 30's

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Btw Italy were world champions in 1934 and that was their first game after becoming champions (England didn't enter) and we beat them 3-2.

In fact If England had taken the World Cup seriously when it first came about we would be 5 times champions with ease

[arseofacrow]

I put $100 on Argentina b4 the tournament so I'm still rooting for them. I really dislike Brazil and Netherlands, and Germany are just fucking boring. I can't stand some of the Argies like Mascherano/Di Maria but I respect Messi for his talent and the fact that he doesnt flop and dive like the rest of his Barca teammates so I'm rooting for him to pull through.

I feel a youtube compilation coming up

[JVCRules]

To be fair I don't really like any of the 4 left, have German friends so gotta back them!

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Definitely not the Dutch, although I used to like them some years back.

Arjen Robben goes down easier than a thirsty tourist in Magaluf.

Germany for me though as we have player interest.

[Theoperator]

100% against Netherlands. The 2010 final where they tried to kick Spain off the field was bad enough, I had hoped the 5-1 win was a sign of things to come but they are total cheating scum. What must Cruyff nEESKINS et all be thinking of them now.

Krul should have been red carded for his "gamesmanship". Costa Rica were great, real breath of fresh air, now 4 yawnsville teams left. Just hope that Messi wins it for the Argies or Pod smashes a hat trick with Ozil assists

Worse for me is I have them in the works sweapstake. Am trying to transfer them for Germany but Jerry (Really) who has Germany isnt keen.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Brazil's football is like Miley Cyrus. It used to be beautiful, but now it's just dirty.