The ''no one is coming'' Transfer Thread

[MrT]

http://dailycannon.com/2016/05/report-h ... for-xhaka/?

As everyone has stated, prepare for this one to last all summer followed by Wenger coming away with nothing. I think that we have seen this picture before.

Max Eberl "There is an offer. With an offer in this range we cant talk seriously"

Master negotiator Dickie Law going back and forth with Wenger on the phone and refusing to pay the going rate for a player, in other news...

Bild reported a bid of 40m euros a few days ago and now they are saying the club offered 25m euros. Not sure what's going on, what a mess either way.

Arsenal getting a transfer done is like taking a difficult shit.

[MrT]

What striker would people here sign and at what realistic price and would be available

I'm asking this cos I'm lazy and can't think of anyone

If we had an aggressive transfer team (including the manager), then I would suggest that there are only a few players that should be unavailable

Top of my list would without doubt be marco reus, and a club with our financial resources should be well able to buy him - he is fast, mobile and has a good eye for a goal

Obviously griezeman would be a similar type of player, but with ath Madrid under a transfer embargo, why would they sell a player when they are prevented from buying a replacement ?

Bayern are being heavily linked to a striker (cant think which one at the mo), and if they did buy one then I would make a cheeky
approach for lewandowki

After that I suppose we would be in cavani or higuain territory

Griezmann, Icardi, Higuain. In that order of priority. Icardi is more realistic and he is a proper c*nt too, need more of them.

Morata is a good player, big game bottle too. Hardly prolific which is a problem. Need a more cunning quick Suarez type player.

[OneBardGooner]

http://dailycannon.com/2016/05/report-h ... for-xhaka/?

As everyone has stated, prepare for this one to last all summer followed by Wenger coming away with nothing. I think that we have seen this picture before.

Max Eberl "There is an offer. With an offer in this range we cant talk seriously"

Master negotiator Dickie Law going back and forth with Wenger on the phone and refusing to pay the going rate for a player, in other news...

Bild reported a bid of 40m euros a few days ago and now they are saying the club offered 25m euros. Not sure what's going on, what a mess either way.

Arsenal getting a transfer done is like

[Redarmy]

http://dailycannon.com/2016/05/report-h ... for-xhaka/?

As everyone has stated, prepare for this one to last all summer followed by Wenger coming away with nothing. I think that we have seen this picture before.

Max Eberl "There is an offer. With an offer in this range we cant talk seriously"

Master negotiator Dickie Law going back and forth with Wenger on the phone and refusing to pay the going rate for a player, in other news...

Bild reported a bid of 40m euros a few days ago and now they are saying the club offered 25m euros. Not sure what's going on, what a mess either way.

Arsenal getting a transfer done is like

Yeah same old scenario....usually ends with players friend/agent/family member saying that the player is flying to London to finalise the deal.......then NOTHING.......

It is painfully obvious they have a real issue as regards transfer dealings, in fact its absolutely criminal and has been since Dein left
all they do is embarrass the club and drag it through the mud......

[TeeCee]

Why even bother talking about it? Usual bullshit about spending lots of money, ST time passes, we have signed no-one. He waits until the last day of the window then signs two very very average nobodies for about 7-10m each. Groundhog window........just like every other year, it's how the greedy bastard works.

[Redarmy]

Monchengladbach’s sporting director Max Ebert has no spoken of how the Premier League outfit need to up their offer.
‘There is an offer. But it does not mean that we will allow Granit a transfer for that price,’ he said.

Not saying this guy is the answer BUT just indicative of Arsenal FC transfer dealings.....what a fucking JOKE

[silus]

What does me in, is when we buy a player we try to penny pinch/negotiate a deal and generally lose out on the player.....but when it comes to selling a player, we seem to take whatever is offered...usually under the value, and end up losing said player.

[DB10GOONER]

Here's a question; when was the last time Wenger went out and signed a high profile complete player that involved outbidding other big clubs?

Even looking at the great signings he made (mostly with David Dein involved) none of them were exactly chased by other big clubs;

Henry failed as a winger in Italy.
Ozil was let know he was surplus to requirements at Madrid.
Sanchez - reading between the lines was considered not disciplined enough to play the strict tippy tappy style at Barca (I think only the Mousers were in for him and who would pick them!).
Bergkamp had a disastrous time in Italy. (I mention DB10 because there is a persistent story that Wenger advised DD to buy DB10).
Vieira was relatively unknown and still a kid.
Overmars was considered "finished" because of his knee injury.
VanJudasCunt left Feyenoord under a huge cloud after rowing with the manager and was even then seen as a trouble maker.

The list goes on; Fabregas, Campbell (couple of European sides "expressed an interest"???), Gilberto, Ljungberg, Petit - all signed as kids or as a bit of a punt on the unknown, but very few if any involved a bidding war with other big clubs. The exception might be Pires, who was actively courted by Juve and Madrid - and we can't discount the French influence playing a part in that one?

I know I'm over-simplifying in many of those examples but I honestly think Wenger finds it crass and beneath him to go head to head with other clubs and fight it out in a bidding war to sign big players that are in demand.

[Nos89]

Here's a question; when was the last time Wenger went out and signed a high profile complete player that involved outbidding other big clubs?

Even looking at the great signings he made (mostly with David Dein involved) none of them were exactly chased by other big clubs;

Henry failed as a winger in Italy.
Ozil was let know he was surplus to requirements at Madrid.
Sanchez - reading between the lines was considered not disciplined enough to play the strict tippy tappy style at Barca (I think only the Mousers were in for him and who would pick them!).
Bergkamp had a disastrous time in Italy. (I mention DB10 because there is a persistent story that Wenger advised DD to buy DB10).
Vieira was relatively unknown and still a kid.
Overmars was considered "finished" because of his knee injury.
VanJudasCunt left Feyenoord under a huge cloud after rowing with the manager and was even then seen as a trouble maker.

The list goes on; Fabregas, Campbell (couple of European sides "expressed an interest"???), Gilberto, Ljungberg, Petit - all signed as kids or as a bit of a punt on the unknown, but very few if any involved a bidding war with other big clubs. The exception might be Pires, who was actively courted by Juve and Madrid - and we can't discount the French influence playing a part in that one?

I know I'm over-simplifying in many of those examples but I honestly think Wenger finds it crass and beneath him to go head to head with other clubs and fight it out in a bidding war to sign big players that are in demand.

Overmars was the finished article, a complete world class forward. Saying he took a chance is to undermine Wenger. Arshavin complete player. Anelka outstanding youngster. Bergkamp wasn't Wenger's signing.
Poldolski, Suker, Mertsacker, Arteta, van Bronckhorst. All complete players for their positions. I don't understand why we should be seen going head to head with another team. Inflating prices. Hazard, Mata, Ashley Young, Ronaldo are players that I can think of that it was publicly known we went head to head with Manure and Chelski and lost. The players we need now will be in demand by other clubs but given the champions league pedigree of Juve, Real and Athletico Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern we won't beat them because we have no pedigree in Europe. Hell, even Seville have got a better reputation than us in Europe and they're only good enough to win the Europa League.

[Bradywasking]

The last time off hand that I can remember Arsenal in a genuine battle with another club for a major signing was with Everton for Tony Cottee, we spoke to Roy Keane but it was never going to happen.. Chris Stutton was one we also chased along with Blackburn but not sure we ever stood a chance there either..There.must have been others since surely???

[augie]

Here's a question; when was the last time Wenger went out and signed a high profile complete player that involved outbidding other big clubs?

Even looking at the great signings he made (mostly with David Dein involved) none of them were exactly chased by other big clubs;

Henry failed as a winger in Italy.
Ozil was let know he was surplus to requirements at Madrid.
Sanchez - reading between the lines was considered not disciplined enough to play the strict tippy tappy style at Barca (I think only the Mousers were in for him and who would pick them!).
Bergkamp had a disastrous time in Italy. (I mention DB10 because there is a persistent story that Wenger advised DD to buy DB10).
Vieira was relatively unknown and still a kid.
Overmars was considered "finished" because of his knee injury.
VanJudasCunt left Feyenoord under a huge cloud after rowing with the manager and was even then seen as a trouble maker.

The list goes on; Fabregas, Campbell (couple of European sides "expressed an interest"???), Gilberto, Ljungberg, Petit - all signed as kids or as a bit of a punt on the unknown, but very few if any involved a bidding war with other big clubs. The exception might be Pires, who was actively courted by Juve and Madrid - and we can't discount the French influence playing a part in that one?

I know I'm over-simplifying in many of those examples but I honestly think Wenger finds it crass and beneath him to go head to head with other clubs and fight it out in a bidding war to sign big players that are in demand.

Overmars was the finished article, a complete world class forward. Saying he took a chance is to undermine Wenger. Arshavin complete player. Anelka outstanding youngster. Bergkamp wasn't Wenger's signing.
Poldolski, Suker, Mertsacker, Arteta, van Bronckhorst. All complete players for their positions. I don't understand why we should be seen going head to head with another team. Inflating prices. Hazard, Mata, Ashley Young, Ronaldo are players that I can think of that it was publicly known we went head to head with Manure and Chelski and lost. The players we need now will be in demand by other clubs but given the champions league pedigree of Juve, Real and Athletico Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern we won't beat them because we have no pedigree in Europe. Hell, even Seville have got a better reputation than us in Europe and they're only good enough to win the Europa League.

Overmars was written off as a top player cos of his knee injury and there is no disputing that - I think that bears out the point that our midget mod was making, when he said that we were not signing top players when in a battle with other top clubs

Anelka was an unproven kid

Podolski was a Bayern reject

Arteta wasn't a top player and had never played for a top club

Suker's best days were behind him

[the playing mantis]

Here's a question; when was the last time Wenger went out and signed a high profile complete player that involved outbidding other big clubs?

Even looking at the great signings he made (mostly with David Dein involved) none of them were exactly chased by other big clubs;

Henry failed as a winger in Italy.
Ozil was let know he was surplus to requirements at Madrid.
Sanchez - reading between the lines was considered not disciplined enough to play the strict tippy tappy style at Barca (I think only the Mousers were in for him and who would pick them!).
Bergkamp had a disastrous time in Italy. (I mention DB10 because there is a persistent story that Wenger advised DD to buy DB10).
Vieira was relatively unknown and still a kid.
Overmars was considered "finished" because of his knee injury.
VanJudasCunt left Feyenoord under a huge cloud after rowing with the manager and was even then seen as a trouble maker.

The list goes on; Fabregas, Campbell (couple of European sides "expressed an interest"???), Gilberto, Ljungberg, Petit - all signed as kids or as a bit of a punt on the unknown, but very few if any involved a bidding war with other big clubs. The exception might be Pires, who was actively courted by Juve and Madrid - and we can't discount the French influence playing a part in that one?

I know I'm over-simplifying in many of those examples but I honestly think Wenger finds it crass and beneath him to go head to head with other clubs and fight it out in a bidding war to sign big players that are in demand.

Overmars was the finished article, a complete world class forward. Saying he took a chance is to undermine Wenger. Arshavin complete player. Anelka outstanding youngster. Bergkamp wasn't Wenger's signing.
Poldolski, Suker, Mertsacker, Arteta, van Bronckhorst. All complete players for their positions. I don't understand why we should be seen going head to head with another team. Inflating prices. Hazard, Mata, Ashley Young, Ronaldo are players that I can think of that it was publicly known we went head to head with Manure and Chelski and lost. The players we need now will be in demand by other clubs but given the champions league pedigree of Juve, Real and Athletico Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern we won't beat them because we have no pedigree in Europe. Hell, even Seville have got a better reputation than us in Europe and they're only good enough to win the Europa League.

Overmars was written off as a top player cos of his knee injury and there is no disputing that - I think that bears out the point that our midget mod was making, when he said that we were not signing top players when in a battle with other top clubs

Anelka was an unproven kid

Podolski was a Bayern reject

Arteta wasn't a top player and had never played for a top club

Suker's best days were behind him

van bronckhorst was unproven in a proper league
and mert was just shite

[DB10GOONER]

Here's a question; when was the last time Wenger went out and signed a high profile complete player that involved outbidding other big clubs?

Even looking at the great signings he made (mostly with David Dein involved) none of them were exactly chased by other big clubs;

Henry failed as a winger in Italy.
Ozil was let know he was surplus to requirements at Madrid.
Sanchez - reading between the lines was considered not disciplined enough to play the strict tippy tappy style at Barca (I think only the Mousers were in for him and who would pick them!).
Bergkamp had a disastrous time in Italy. (I mention DB10 because there is a persistent story that Wenger advised DD to buy DB10).
Vieira was relatively unknown and still a kid.
Overmars was considered "finished" because of his knee injury.
VanJudasCunt left Feyenoord under a huge cloud after rowing with the manager and was even then seen as a trouble maker.

The list goes on; Fabregas, Campbell (couple of European sides "expressed an interest"???), Gilberto, Ljungberg, Petit - all signed as kids or as a bit of a punt on the unknown, but very few if any involved a bidding war with other big clubs. The exception might be Pires, who was actively courted by Juve and Madrid - and we can't discount the French influence playing a part in that one?

I know I'm over-simplifying in many of those examples but I honestly think Wenger finds it crass and beneath him to go head to head with other clubs and fight it out in a bidding war to sign big players that are in demand.

Overmars was the finished article, a complete world class forward. Saying he took a chance is to undermine Wenger. Arshavin complete player. Anelka outstanding youngster. Bergkamp wasn't Wenger's signing.
Poldolski, Suker, Mertsacker, Arteta, van Bronckhorst. All complete players for their positions. I don't understand why we should be seen going head to head with another team. Inflating prices. Hazard, Mata, Ashley Young, Ronaldo are players that I can think of that it was publicly known we went head to head with Manure and Chelski and lost. The players we need now will be in demand by other clubs but given the champions league pedigree of Juve, Real and Athletico Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern we won't beat them because we have no pedigree in Europe. Hell, even Seville have got a better reputation than us in Europe and they're only good enough to win the Europa League.

It's like you didn't even read my post. You've totally missed my point. It's not about them being "complete" players, it's about Wenger not signing anyone that took him into having to outbid other clubs. The players I've listed Wenger got without getting involved in bidding wars. He was lucky that so many of them worked out.

Overmars was written off because of the knee injury - he had a poor return from that injury and no one else was in for him. It is widely accepted within football Wenger took a risk signing him for the PL.

There's a story (I think in Wenger's biography or an article by Philippe Auclair) that Bergkamp was pursued after Wenger met Dein at a football conference and told Dein that Bergkamp hated being in Italy and was easily gettable and would be perfect for the PL. Either way, true or not, no one else was in for Bergkamp.

The whole point is we need the type of players that other clubs will also want - and Wenger is incapable of getting them.

[StuartL]

The last time off hand that I can remember Arsenal in a genuine battle with another club for a major signing was with Everton for Tony Cottee, we spoke to Roy Keane but it was never going to happen.. Chris Stutton was one we also chased along with Blackburn but not sure we ever stood a chance there either..There.must have been others since surely???

I think we managed to secure Chamach from.under West Ham' s noses - so that was a real coup

It's why Wenker tries to stay quiet on transfer targets - petrified that other clubs are more attractive.

Ooh forgot we secured Ramsey from.Cardiff by paying him 3 x the salary Man Utd were offering ( story was Wenger was there personally, while the Mancs only had Giggs not Purplenose in their delegation )

[DB10GOONER]

The last time off hand that I can remember Arsenal in a genuine battle with another club for a major signing was with Everton for Tony Cottee, we spoke to Roy Keane but it was never going to happen.. Chris Stutton was one we also chased along with Blackburn but not sure we ever stood a chance there either..There.must have been others since surely???

I think we managed to secure Chamach from.under West Ham' s noses - so that was a real coup

It's why Wenker tries to stay quiet on transfer targets - petrified that other clubs are more attractive.

Ooh forgot we secured Ramsey from.Cardiff by paying him 3 x the salary Man Utd were offering ( story was Wenger was there personally, while the Mancs only had Giggs not Purplenose in their delegation )

Version I heard was Rambo was met at Old Shatford by Spiv Neville only, who basically showed him around the stadium. And that Wenger sent a private jet to fly him out to our training camp in Europe?