THE WENGER THREAD

[officepest]

The media can see each one of our faults but can't make the link to Wenger. Take Seaman's recent interview as an example - in the same interview he slammed us celebrating 4th position as embarrassing and then said we can't lose Wenger. Ignoring the fact that Wenger is the reason we celebrate 4th.

None of them will actually call for him to go. Wrighty's the nearest to it in mainstream media but even he won't cross that line, they have all put too much stock in what he achieved a decade ago.

[Bradywasking]

How can there be any supporters of Wenger left ? Even the most blind must now be able to see that he reign must wend for the good of Arsenal FC.
New slant on CL qualification today by a friend who said Arsenal need to get fourth because we will not get in a decent manager without CL football.

The next time I hear phrases such as: "we won't get player/manager x without CL football....." I think I will puke.

Do people actually see what's in front of their eyes? Liverpool bought, and kept, the goofy racist and may well win the league without this panacea of CL football.

It's as if some people just repeat what they've heard in the media and question nothing.

Not arguing the point just repeating it..we cannot or will not sign quality players when we are in the CL

[officepest]

Not arguing the point just repeating it..we cannot or will not sign quality players when we are in the CL

I know BWK, I'm just venting as there seems to be any number of reasons trotted out to keep Arsene "perpetuity" Wenger in his job for life.

[Blood_Gooner]

We've had CL footie for however long, yet still we haven't exactly been signing quality players, so nothing to choke about really.

[Kvltman]

I don't care about CL football. I just want to enjoy supporting Arsenal again. That comes across as fairweather but it's not how I mean it. I can take us losing and not doing well when we are clearly trying, and are doing everything we can to compete like adjusting tactics/players for the opposition (and ALL the other Wenger failings we already know about). At the moment with Wenger in charge, it is just like a slow death. And then dying again each season the same way.

I can't wrap my head around how anyone can defend the lack of tactical adjustment to opposition, the system we play clearly doesn't work yet it is never changed. The majority of results and performances against the top 6 this season are completely unacceptable. All the failings go on and on and on...I always want to get behind the team, but it becomes harder and harder when the same mistakes occur over and over and no responsibility is ever taken.

I just can't wait for the day that we have a younger, hungrier and modern manager in charge, with a new philosophy and a breath of fresh air that reinvigorates the whole club and support. It sounds bad and maybe a bit plastic, but that's just how I feel.

[foxinthebox2001]

The media can see each one of our faults but can't make the link to Wenger. Take Seaman's recent interview as an example - in the same interview he slammed us celebrating 4th position as embarrassing and then said we can't lose Wenger. Ignoring the fact that Wenger is the reason we celebrate 4th.

None of them will actually call for him to go. Wrighty's the nearest to it in mainstream media but even he won't cross that line, they have all put too much stock in what he achieved a decade ago.

Probably because it will put their match day VIP treatment in jeopardy, the board cant have their golden goose getting criticised.

[Kvltman]

http://www.football365.com/faves/9252848/F365-Says

More media criticism.

That the writer states that this seasons demise has been met with an air of resignation other than anger in some quarters, is very depressing.

[Blood_Gooner]

I don't care about CL football. I just want to enjoy supporting Arsenal again. That comes across as fairweather but it's not how I mean it. I can take us losing and not doing well when we are clearly trying, and are doing everything we can to compete like adjusting tactics/players for the opposition (and ALL the other Wenger failings we already know about). At the moment with Wenger in charge, it is just like a slow death. And then dying again each season the same way.

I can't wrap my head around how anyone can defend the lack of tactical adjustment to opposition, the system we play clearly doesn't work yet it is never changed. The majority of results and performances against the top 6 this season are completely unacceptable. All the failings go on and on and on...I always want to get behind the team, but it becomes harder and harder when the same mistakes occur over and over and no responsibility is ever taken.

I just can't wait for the day that we have a younger, hungrier and modern manager in charge, with a new philosophy and a breath of fresh air that reinvigorates the whole club and support. It sounds bad and maybe a bit plastic, but that's just how I feel.

Nothing plastic about your grouses and yearnings expressed here. It's obvious you want the Club to do well and not consign itself to perpetual mediocrity.

[I Hate Hleb]

I don't care about CL football. I just want to enjoy supporting Arsenal again. That comes across as fairweather but it's not how I mean it. I can take us losing and not doing well when we are clearly trying, and are doing everything we can to compete like adjusting tactics/players for the opposition (and ALL the other Wenger failings we already know about). At the moment with Wenger in charge, it is just like a slow death. And then dying again each season the same way.

I can't wrap my head around how anyone can defend the lack of tactical adjustment to opposition, the system we play clearly doesn't work yet it is never changed. The majority of results and performances against the top 6 this season are completely unacceptable. All the failings go on and on and on...I always want to get behind the team, but it becomes harder and harder when the same mistakes occur over and over and no responsibility is ever taken.

I just can't wait for the day that we have a younger, hungrier and modern manager in charge, with a new philosophy and a breath of fresh air that reinvigorates the whole club and support. It sounds bad and maybe a bit plastic, but that's just how I feel.

Me too mate. Me too. The way things have been going has even had an effect on my love of football as a whole - meaning I hardly want to watch anyone else play either. Not even the darkest times of the mid-seventies, the Terry Neill era and the latter days of G.G/Houston done that to me!!

[Gunner Rob]

Just get Martinez in as soon as possible
Whatever it takes, whatever it costs

I thought he did a very good job interview today

[Blood_Gooner]

I reckon we could offer Martinez double what he's currently being paid at Everton and it still wouldn't amount to half of what le bumhole has been on for sometime now.

He is clearly a shrewd and astute manager, has tactical nous and looks hungry for success. At the rate he's been going, he looks destined to spar with the big guys at the very top of the game. I say we move in now and grab him before another club notable do.

[northbank123]

I said before today that Martinez is definitely the best appointment from English football. My preference would still be Klopp but Martinez is the antithesis of Wenger now - passionate, innovative, tactically shrewd, positive, dignified. Would certainly be worth a punt and if it's not at us it will be at United in a year or two when Moyes finally bites the bullet.

[MrT]

I said before today that Martinez is definitely the best appointment from English football. My preference would still be Klopp but Martinez is the antithesis of Wenger now - passionate, innovative, tactically shrewd, positive, dignified. Would certainly be worth a punt and if it's not at us it will be at United in a year or two when Moyes finally bites the bullet.

I would be more than happy with Martinez but my only concern is his experience at top level which is virtually non existent. Don't see him leaving Everton after just a season even if professor crackpot fucks off.

If the board had any sense they would be banging on Simeone's door begging him to take over next season.

[Rush]

When will this nightmare end. What a disgrace. We are the laughing stock of everything football and le caterpillar just cant see how much he has fracked up a glorious team. I would give anything right now for "1nil to the Gunners"

How can one man be so cruel to everyone including himself. I know no other manager that has ripped his reputation to shreds in the same amount of time that he meticulously built it up.

Wenger get the frack away from my team.... please and thanks.

Anyone knows when the press conference announcing his sacking will be?

And the team are playing without an ounce of balls ... pisses me off no ends as the trudge down the tunnel to sleep it off on their millions. For the salary they make its tantamount to abject cruelty their display for us fans than dont even make what they do in a week in a year.

sigh.... can someone please squash di bloody caterpillar.... sigh

[Swifty]

Time to change the thread name - 'FOR' is no longer an arguable position.