THE WENGER THREAD

[foxinthebox2001]

Notice how not too long ago Wenger blamed 'financial doping' that stopped us achieving our goals.
Now Everton are catching us up it is the loan system that is the problem
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 41211.html
"The Arsenal manager went even further and stated that Premier League sides should only be permitted to strike loan deals with lower-division clubs or those from abroad"
So what about our desperate attempts to get Demba Ba on loan from the Chavs?
What a tool.

[augie]

Dont see how a quality manager would come to us us really. All hed have to do is scratch below the surface a little to see the mess that lay below.
The years and years of set in our ways apathy, failure and complancey that Wenger has encouraged to infest the club would soon show us as not the wonderful, well run, proper club that we like to think we are.

Im not just talking about the team but the medical staff, coaches, scouts. The whole club.

How could a manager come in and fix the shit that Wenger will have left behind? Shit that has been allowed to fester and permeate the entire club by lowering standards and expectations right down to the fans on the terraces who seem happy to pay some of the highest prices in world football for some of the most embarrassing performances..

Gonna take some doing to fix the malaise that Wenger will leave behind.

In some ways yes but in other ways it might be better that way - if there is an acceptance that there needs to be a major overhaul then any new manager will be allowed bring in his own people and his own methods and ideas. If on the other hand we were perceived as being in great condition, then a new manager would be slated for changing what was perceived to be working

[Gunner Rob]

there isn't an acceptance at the club that a major overhaul is necessary though - that is the problem

[Theoperator1]

At least we remain the undisputed top of the league with 9 injuries

[augie]

Have been convinced for a while now, that klopp will leave dortmund in the very near future - I dont think it will be bayerns success that will drive him out, but it is more likely that dortmunds inability to stop their best players from joining bayern will make him feel that he is wasting his time. However, if I was a betting man, I would probably stick a few quid on klopp being manager of barca next season - I dont see the barca manager lasting beyond the summer tbh and I would expect them to make a real push to recruit klopp Of course I might be wrong, but I have this feeling that if we made the same push for klopp then he would opt to join us over barca - to me he always seems to be a guy that values of building a team so the prospect of being in and out of barca within two years wouldnt appeal to him imo

I think some of you are going a bit OTT when you suggest that martinez wouldnt join us because everton are on the rise and we are declining - we are a much bigger club and with much greater potential than everton has and I also think that he admires the way our club is run (easier to do that when you on the outside looking in ). If however you suggested that he wouldnt walk out on everton after one season because he is a man of integrity and loyalty then I would have to agree 100%

[supergeorgegraham]

It is time for Wenger to step down. Its actually very true that the club is a financial powerhouse now and in totally great shape to offer the wages that the best players need.
Wengers tactics on the pitch no longer work and Brendan Rodgers has done in 2 seasons what our boss has failed in 9.
So this is what I hope will happen.
When Wenger took over our team was nowhere in the League but Graham had left an extremely strong base to work with. Ok yes Bergkamp came in the season with Rioch but you get my point.
Vieira was the key signing that made us solid in midfield and with the addition of Petit, Overmars and Anelka we went on to win the double.
Lets hope our current team can benefit from 4 key signings that maybe Klopp or Martinez can make that will return Arsenal to a more solid team.
Yes our defence needs work and our forwards are shocking but the return of Walcott will add great pace and a player in the mould of Vieira can bring some strengh to a weak team.
I live in hope but even if we lift the FA Cup it is time for a change of management.

[rodders999]

Kroenke or Gazidis don't even know who Jurgen Klopp is FFS. The prospect of those two muppets being responsible for recruiting a new manager fills me with almost as much dread as the prospect of L'Asshole extending his

[augie]

Kroenke or Gazidis don't even know who Jurgen Klopp is FFS. The prospect of those two muppets being responsible for recruiting a new manager fills me with almost as much dread as the prospect of L'Asshole extending his

Simply cannot agree with that - whoever comes in and whenever they come in, will be under pressure and wont be granted the same leeway as wenker has. If a new manager comes in and performs like wenker is, then the akb and board will have him out of our club like a shot but those same people would have no problem allowing another 3 years of this with wenker as manager

[Gunner Rob]

I agree with everything you say.

just one slight problem....Wenger isn't going anywhere.

[rodders999]

Kroenke or Gazidis don't even know who Jurgen Klopp is FFS. The prospect of those two muppets being responsible for recruiting a new manager fills me with almost as much dread as the prospect of L'Asshole extending his

Simply cannot agree with that - whoever comes in and whenever they come in, will be under pressure and wont be granted the same leeway as wenker has. If a new manager comes in and performs like wenker is, then the akb and board will have him out of our club like a shot but those same people would have no problem allowing another 3 years of this with wenker as manager

Augie, I agree that the new man won't be allowed the same scope as Wenger but my worry lies with the fact that we will have to entrust the two yank gimps with the task of hiring that new manager. You'd still have space on the back of a postage stamp after writing down their combined football knowledge on it and I for one would not trust them on making a competent appointment.

[augie]

Absolutely agree with you on your suggestion that they wont have a clue who to appoint or how to go about it From my point of view though, is that I would accept 2 years of some other manager ballsing things up partly cos it wont be any worse than watching this shite season after season, but also because it might help drive the smarmy yank c*nts from our club at last I dont give a flying fcuk what some say about usmanov, give me an owner that attends games (and pays for the privilege) and gives a fcuk about on pitch performance, over a smarmy american pr*ck who cant be arsed watching us play and is only using us to enhance his portfolio

I started work this morning at 6.25am and if I'm honest I havent done half an hours work in the time that has passed since I have spent the vast majority of the morning on here or reading anr or reading arseblog (kudo's to the man cos this morning he actually seriously questioned wenker and reported on what he seen as opposed to what he wanted to see) - of course it might be easier to do this in my job than it is for others but it certainly doesnt help relations with the wife especially when communication has been almost non existant all weekend

The thing is that we might like to brush off these defeats and might like to claim that we are immune to the pain but I feel that deep down the reality tells a different story - I do care and it does hurt but I am hanging in with the hope that we have only a few more weeks with wenker as manager but if that dream is dashed with him signing a new contract then there will be no comeback imo

[Arse 'n' Nose]

Absolutely share Rodders' apprehension about our BoD appointing a replacement this summer. I am certain they feel confident that Wenker will sign the contract that appears to have been on offer for some months and therefore have got into a mindset of having to do very little this summer other than flicking through Luxury Holidays for Rich Pr1cks Summer 2014 and contacting the bank manager to see just how much more interest they have earned. Wenger not signing would catch them with their trousers down (quite possibly literally in a number of cases) and they would be forced into making a decision they thought had been delayed for another 3 years. Panic stations - and in a World Cup summer; we end up with David Moyes...

[SteveO 35]

ONE ARSENE WENGER....THERE'S ONLY ONE ARSENE WENGER

[Gunner Rob]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -long.html

good article this.
looks like the press are finally starting to put the boot in.

[scotgooner]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -long.html

good article this.
looks like the press are finally starting to put the boot in.

I hope they continue to do so! the more people that question him the better...

Although I doubt he will take notice!