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Big-spending Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala are prepared to offer Arsenal striker Robin van Persie £300,000 a week to play for

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Marouane Chamakh and Nicklas Bendtner could be two of 10 players who might leave Arsenal this summer as Arsene Wenger revamps his squad.

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mcdowell42 wrote: Marouane Chamakh and Nicklas Bendtner could be two of 10 players who might leave Arsenal this summer as Arsene Wenger revamps his squad.

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Aside from Vela and perhaps Arshavin it's going to be hard to unload that pile of dross..

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Thought that any move for him was dead in the water ? :? :? Not sure I give a fcuk anyway.....doesn't matter what players we have with the same (mis)managing them :roll: :cry:

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If we can cut the wage bill and make a couple of QUALITY signings (not last day of the window, on the cheap like last year) I will be a happy gooner.

Yann M'Vila would be an ideal replacement for Song and to be honest I have no idea why we are not chasing Kagawa- hes cheap at a reported £7m and would be a perfect fit for our system, an attacking central midfield player who scored 17 goals this season in Germany would do for me.

If we lose RVP though we really are up creek without a paddle. I just dont want next season to be groundhog day.

Not holding my breath though

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7m? Doubt that. Kagawa will cost at least €15m or so.. belive me 8)

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kite wrote:7m? Doubt that. Kagawa will cost at least €15m or so.. belive me 8)
yeah, but he is entering his last year, so a cheaper move is more likely.

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RioGooner wrote:
kite wrote:7m? Doubt that. Kagawa will cost at least €15m or so.. belive me 8)
yeah, but he is entering his last year, so a cheaper move is more likely.
15m is a cheaper move. This guy is pure class. Maybe the best player of the team at the moment.. he ist really that good. In Germany they write that Dortmund might consider selling him for 15m but nothing less.

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mcdowell42 wrote:Big-spending Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala are prepared to offer Arsenal striker Robin van Persie £300,000 a week to play for

Sunday Mirror

Marouane Chamakh and Nicklas Bendtner could be two of 10 players who might leave Arsenal this summer as Arsene Wenger revamps his squad.

Full story: Caught Offside
Okay OKAY! OKKKAAAAAY! ENOUGH IS EE FUCKING NUFF. RightMr McDowell you are OFFICIALLY WARNED - any more quoting of rumours by cnutsoffside and you will be remanded in the (secret and special) maximum security building that houses the likes of USmarting AND blahblahtunde - for a minimum if 3 months - yeah imagine it in the same room with aforementioned master criminals and NO EXIT!. Not only that but you will receive daily visits from KJ for am and pm daily doses of his special syrup AND a good seeing to with is night stick.

You Have Been warned. :wink:
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Wengerball wrote:If we can cut the wage bill and make a couple of QUALITY signings (not last day of the window, on the cheap like last year) I will be a happy gooner.

Yann M'Vila would be an ideal replacement for Song and to be honest I have no idea why we are not chasing Kagawa- hes cheap at a reported £7m and would be a perfect fit for our system, an attacking central midfield player who scored 17 goals this season in Germany would do for me.

If we lose RVP though we really are up creek without a paddle. I just dont want next season to be groundhog day.

Not holding my breath though
Something tells me we've been there 'rudderless' for the past 4 seasons now WB, if RVP does go, which is looking possible, then we'll just go over the rapids sooner than anticipated. :|

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That is an EXCELLENT analysis and description of our 'Situation', can we get him a job on the Arsenal Staff!? It says it all what we are thinking and what everybody knows...maybe if we all print off a copy and send it to AW, Gazidis and Kreonke (And Usmanov).....

Well spotted Frank :high5:


This so hits the nail on the proverbial head:

"The problem is that we carry over 70 pro players, (this is about 20 more than most other clubs), we pay our top stars less than they could get at other top clubs, and we pay middle rank player and younger players more than they could get elsewhere. So its simple really, make harsher decisions on who will make it or who are needed, sell those that are not required, even at a loss, spread the wages saved on those that deserve the big pay packet more."


This once again reminds me, what has confused me (and okay it doesn't take much! :oops: ) But Wenger is(still) big buddies with David Dein, and Dein who sold his shares to Usmanov (and is employed by him,) is persona Non-Gratis at Arsenal, so I wonder what the board really think of AW keeping ties with DD, and if there is a conflict of interest for them, mind you P. Hill-wood *word censored* having sold his shares to Kreonke is still on the board - getting a 'nice little earner' ...it all seems rather incestuous to me....that or Well Dodgy. :rubchin: :censored:

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OneBardGooner wrote:
That is an EXCELLENT analysis and description of our 'Situation', can we get him a job on the Arsenal Staff!? It says it all what we are thinking and what everybody knows...maybe if we all print off a copy and send it to AW, Gazidis and Kreonke (And Usmanov).....

Well spotted Frank :high5:


This so hits the nail on the proverbial head:

"The problem is that we carry over 70 pro players, (this is about 20 more than most other clubs), we pay our top stars less than they could get at other top clubs, and we pay middle rank player and younger players more than they could get elsewhere. So its simple really, make harsher decisions on who will make it or who are needed, sell those that are not required, even at a loss, spread the wages saved on those that deserve the big pay packet more."

Everyone is well aware that a lot of the youngsters will not make the cut to get in the first team, but are probably good enough to earn a decent living in the lower half of the prem or the Championship - but why do we persist on sending them out on loan for more than a season ? (obviously, as nobody will buy them and pay the wages they are on)

If they were good enough they would get games in the Cups and sporadically in the league matches.

If they are not then get rid, what is the point of loaning Vela / Watt / Lansbury / season in season out ?

Some players have been here for years already and will never be good enough to be a first team player, so sell them and get them off the wage bill.

3 players who are on, lets say £20,000 per week, (and most fringe players are on more than that) who contribute nothing to our squad could be replaced by a quality addition on the £60,000 who would.

Its not quantity, its having the right quality.

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Apparently lucio is leaving inter Milan this summer - I know that he is 34yrs old but would he be worth a punt if the asking price was reasonable ? Pace and physicality certainly wouldn't be an issue with him imo

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augie wrote:Apparently lucio is leaving inter Milan this summer - I know that he is 34yrs old but would he be worth a punt if the asking price was reasonable ? Pace and physicality certainly wouldn't be an issue with him imo
Lucio was a fucking beast in his prime. Still a good player, never been great at defending so would fit in well.

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