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How far will it all go??

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:23 am
by SPUDMASHER
There comes a point whereby you have to ask "At which point are my rights as a free member of society being ignored". This modern world in which we live is changing. Some things are better but some are without doubt worse. I remember as a wee kid in the early 1970's I got seperated from my mum whilst in Woolworths in Colchester. A really nice man and Lady held my hand and walked me to the checkout where a tannoy announcement alerted my mum to my location. Last week in Waitrose I saw a young kid, no older than 5 or 6 stood alone crying. I walked right past! I'm ashamed of myself for doing so, really I am. I was too concerned at what would be said to me if I approached the child. He was terrified, he'd lost his mum, it was the most important thing in the world to him to find his mum. He wanted help. AND I WALKED RIGHT ON BY.

Today I am browsing the web and I find this article on-line:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

I do understand the threat posed by the more unsavioury members of society but surely that threat has always been there? Are we just highlighting these things now to such a point that society is collapsing around us and all decent people can expect to be treated with suspicion?
It's so wrong and so sad.

I'm not walking past next time. I don't care what accusations I face. I am a decent member of this society and I have an obligation to my fellow humans and to myself to be a caring one.

Re: How far will it all go??

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:28 am
by tomkingsbury
SPUDMASHER wrote:There comes a point whereby you have to ask "At which point are my rights as a free member of society being ignored". This modern world in which we live is changing. Some things are better but some are without doubt worse. I remember as a wee kid in the early 1970's I got seperated from my mum whilst in Woolworths in Colchester. A really nice man and Lady held my hand and walked me to the checkout where a tannoy announcement alerted my mum to my location. Last week in Waitrose I saw a young kid, no older than 5 or 6 stood alone crying. I walked right past! I'm ashamed of myself for doing so, really I am. I was too concerned at what would be said to me if I approached the child. He was terrified, he'd lost his mum, it was the most important thing in the world to him to find his mum. He wanted help. AND I WALKED RIGHT ON BY.

Today I am browsing the web and I find this article on-line:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

I do understand the threat posed by the more unsavioury members of society but surely that threat has always been there? Are we just highlighting these things now to such a point that society is collapsing around us and all decent people can expect to be treated with suspicion?
It's so wrong and so sad.

I'm not walking past next time. I don't care what accusations I face. I am a decent member of this society and I have an obligation to my fellow humans and to myself to be a caring one.
its a shame isnt it - i ould help the kid and tell whoever to fuck off if they thought iwas kiddy fiddling. anyway, similar thing happened to me when i was about 5 in a garden centre, i went and found a check out girl who put out a tannoy for my mum.


that links is ridiculous too, and im afraid its the media warping people that makes this country such a pc mindfuck.

i work with loads of woman with young kids, and they're always goin on about paedos, which i think is just crazy paranoia, and then u get eastenders doin it making it even worse.

this one women is concerned her 13 yr girl is in france on a school trip and is allowed to walk round the town unsupervised. imean fuck me, i was allowed to do the same on my school trip to italy. i despair for this nation!!

Re: How far will it all go??

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:46 am
by pixie
SPUDMASHER wrote:There comes a point whereby you have to ask "At which point are my rights as a free member of society being ignored". This modern world in which we live is changing. Some things are better but some are without doubt worse. I remember as a wee kid in the early 1970's I got seperated from my mum whilst in Woolworths in Colchester. A really nice man and Lady held my hand and walked me to the checkout where a tannoy announcement alerted my mum to my location. Last week in Waitrose I saw a young kid, no older than 5 or 6 stood alone crying. I walked right past! I'm ashamed of myself for doing so, really I am. I was too concerned at what would be said to me if I approached the child. He was terrified, he'd lost his mum, it was the most important thing in the world to him to find his mum. He wanted help. AND I WALKED RIGHT ON BY.

Today I am browsing the web and I find this article on-line:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

I do understand the threat posed by the more unsavioury members of society but surely that threat has always been there? Are we just highlighting these things now to such a point that society is collapsing around us and all decent people can expect to be treated with suspicion?
It's so wrong and so sad.

I'm not walking past next time. I don't care what accusations I face. I am a decent member of this society and I have an obligation to my fellow humans and to myself to be a caring one.
The best thing to do is take the child to one of the checkout staff or tell the security staff, or a female shopper......And reading between the lines of the Daily Mail story it seems to be another case of the paper twisting the facts and over reacting to a report, in this case a line in a letter sent to someone, no surprise there.

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:50 am
by tomkingsbury
forgot to mention tho:

my aunty's friend was in a shop in cribss causeway a few years back with one of those springy leads she had attached to her daughter and herself. she was browsing and the line went light - it had been cut off and the child had disappeared.

she immediately informed security who locked down the shop straight away and conducted a search. they found the child in the blokes toliet with two men who ahd cut her hair and dressed her in a small boys clothes.

so there are people out there....

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:04 pm
by SPUDMASHER
I don't doubt there are people like it out there and your story is a shocking example but it doesn't alter the fact that as a free, innocent (well, almost :wink: ) member of this society, I demand the right to use facilities that I pay toward without being suspected of being a nonce. It's a fucking disgrace.

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:56 pm
by tomkingsbury
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't doubt there are people like it out there and your story is a shocking example but it doesn't alter the fact that as a free, innocent (well, almost :wink: ) member of this society, I demand the right to use facilities that I pay toward without being suspected of being a nonce. It's a fucking disgrace.
i totally agree wit ya, was merely reciting an example i remembered

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:00 pm
by SPUDMASHER
tomkingsbury wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't doubt there are people like it out there and your story is a shocking example but it doesn't alter the fact that as a free, innocent (well, almost :wink: ) member of this society, I demand the right to use facilities that I pay toward without being suspected of being a nonce. It's a fucking disgrace.
i totally agree wit ya, was merely reciting an example i remembered
I know you were, sorry, did it seem like I was having a go.It wasn't meant to :oops: :oops:

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:11 pm
by tomkingsbury
SPUDMASHER wrote:
tomkingsbury wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't doubt there are people like it out there and your story is a shocking example but it doesn't alter the fact that as a free, innocent (well, almost :wink: ) member of this society, I demand the right to use facilities that I pay toward without being suspected of being a nonce. It's a fucking disgrace.
i totally agree wit ya, was merely reciting an example i remembered
I know you were, sorry, did it seem like I was having a go.It wasn't meant to :oops: :oops:
no it didnt but i forgot to add it in earlier - just felt i would inlcude it as it was topically linked :wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:24 am
by QuartzGooner
tomkingsbury wrote:forgot to mention tho:

my aunty's friend was in a shop in cribss causeway a few years back with one of those springy leads she had attached to her daughter and herself. she was browsing and the line went light - it had been cut off and the child had disappeared.

she immediately informed security who locked down the shop straight away and conducted a search. they found the child in the blokes toliet with two men who ahd cut her hair and dressed her in a small boys clothes.

so there are people out there....
That is scary!

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:56 am
by Basil is a Gooner
Yes I also heard that story about an identical incident that happened at Marks and Spencers in Camberley. Again I dont know how true it was but it makes me feel sick to think about it.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:17 pm
by MutleyGooner
tomkingsbury wrote:forgot to mention tho:

my aunty's friend was in a shop in cribss causeway a few years back with one of those springy leads she had attached to her daughter and herself. she was browsing and the line went light - it had been cut off and the child had disappeared.

she immediately informed security who locked down the shop straight away and conducted a search. they found the child in the blokes toliet with two men who ahd cut her hair and dressed her in a small boys clothes.

so there are people out there....
I am not doubting your belief in your aunties story but this particular story was exposed in the press earlier this year as being an urban myth. If I can find a link I will post it.