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British Justice System....

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:20 pm
by northbankbren
Are a fucking joke!!!

Just heard on radio 5 live of a man jailed for three months, why you ask.

When he found out his brother-in-law was doing heroin, he went round to the dealers house, knocked on the door, when the guy opened the door he pushed his way in, found the drugs and flushed them down the toilet..........AND HE GOT 3 MONTHS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:32 pm
by Magic Hat
What was the charge? Did the others get charged over the drug thing?

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:35 pm
by Rosie_titters
this country needs Paul Kersey :barscarf:

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:36 pm
by g88ner
Magic Hat wrote:What was the charge? Did the others get charged over the drug thing?
the charge was breach of the peace.

here's a link to the story....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tay ... 892881.stm

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:38 pm
by Irish Gooner
He threatened to kill him. Still a shit verdict though.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:41 pm
by northbankbren
cheers for link g88ner.

Breach of the peace, what an absolute farse.

He should be given a medal.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:49 pm
by Magic Hat
As long as the others were charged, seems fair enough. He didn't call the police but chose to threaten a man, which is illegal, he got the light sentence due to circumstances but he did break the law. It is 2 months it seems, I imagine with good behaviour he would be out fairly soon

Doesn't say if the police have or are prosecuting the drug dealers

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:12 pm
by rodders999
Jeremy Kyle for PM. He'll sort the fuckers out!!

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:00 pm
by SPUDMASHER
could've got a lot worse for him. Technically it was a section 12a burglary which carries 5 years 8) 8)

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:40 pm
by SCREAM AIM FIRE
rodders999 wrote:Jeremy Kyle for PM. He'll sort the fuckers out!!
and probably lower the legal age limit, i hear he likes a bitta underage :lol:

this is just one more thing to add to the list, our justice system has always been a joke.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:50 pm
by Wayno
Should have got longer, wasting other peoples drugs is just not on :roll:

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:57 pm
by olgitgooner
Fucking disgusting outcome.

Go mug an old lady for her pension. Get community service.

Go stab somebody. Get two months.

The law is a fucking lottery.

The reason? Judges have far, far, far too much power.

And some of them are doddery old bastards, who don't live in the real world.

Our elected government is powerless against senile judges, who choose to interpret the law in any way they see fit. Or even overturn the law of the land.

Judges are not answerable to anyone. *word censored*.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:15 pm
by SCREAM AIM FIRE
olgitgooner wrote:Fucking disgusting outcome.

Go mug an old lady for her pension. Get community service.

Go stab somebody. Get two months.

The law is a fucking lottery.

The reason? Judges have far, far, far too much power.

And some of them are doddery old bastards, who don't live in the real world.

Our elected government is powerless against senile judges, who choose to interpret the law in any way they see fit. Or even overturn the law of the land.

Judges are not answerable to anyone. c**ts.
i think judges dont have enough power to be honest, i've read countless times where the judge has been forced to give shit sentences due to the way the system is and have gone public with how pissed off they were at having to give such lean punishments, there should be mandatory minimum sentences for deaths/attempted murders etc, drink driving should be considered pre-meditated rape considered murder etc

somthing like the case above should be a fine for the initial crime/threat but seen as a public service at the same time

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:43 pm
by olgitgooner
SCREAM AIM FIRE wrote:
olgitgooner wrote:Fucking disgusting outcome.

Go mug an old lady for her pension. Get community service.

Go stab somebody. Get two months.

The law is a fucking lottery.

The reason? Judges have far, far, far too much power.

And some of them are doddery old bastards, who don't live in the real world.

Our elected government is powerless against senile judges, who choose to interpret the law in any way they see fit. Or even overturn the law of the land.

Judges are not answerable to anyone. c**ts.
i think judges dont have enough power to be honest, i've read countless times where the judge has been forced to give shit sentences due to the way the system is and have gone public with how pissed off they were at having to give such lean punishments, there should be mandatory minimum sentences for deaths/attempted murders etc, drink driving should be considered pre-meditated rape considered murder etc

somthing like the case above should be a fine for the initial crime/threat but seen as a public service at the same time
Your absolutely correct about the maximum punishments. And I know that judges have felt frustrated about it.

I agree that there should be mandatory sentences for crimes.

My argument is with judges who are far too lenient. And the ones who overturn rececent legislation, because they consider their own opinions are more important than those of the lawmakers (our government).

For example, the government said that persistent house-breakers should be jailed automatically on their third conviction. The judges completely ignored this directive.

Same thing applies to foreign criminals being automatically deported at the end of their sentences.

Judges are a law unto themselves. Not answerable to anyone.

I'd welcome Spuddy's comments on this.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:10 am
by Number 5
Isn't it correct that Judges are actually imformed more by the clerks that run around the court room? Or is that just in Magistrates court? I know most of them don't have an excellent knowledge of the law and the absolute punishments so always refer to the clerks. Plus you then have precedent and deals that get brokered in for guilty pleas and such.

What the silly fuck has done in this case it seems is plead guilty and beg for mercy. If he had pleaded not guilty and gone to trial how likely would it have been that a jury would have heard the evidence and found him guilty? He's admitted his guilt, of course he's going to get punished for it. He should have claimed self defense on behalf of his brother in law and rid it out.

Roly Poly would have knocked that shit out of the park.